BWV Map? (I have searched, I promise!)

[MermaidsMom]

I have searched not only here, but on google and other not to be named sites but am unable to find a good map of the BWV's that show approximate room numbers, etc. I just want an idea of which room numbers face in which direction to be able to put a REQUEST in. I should have written this down during our last trip there, but I am always so certain that I won't forget things....

 

[jisom12]

Disney Maps and Resort Maps are available at

http://willcad.org/disney_maps.html

 

[beachblanket]

Disney Maps and Resort Maps are available at

http://willcad.org/disney_maps.html

This link contains the generic mid-90s BWV map, which does not contain what the OP wants - specific room numbers by the direction a given area of the resort faces. Unfortunately, that sort of map doesn't exist. Frankly, that's not a big deal, since requests for specific villas numbers are rarely successful. At BWV, you are better off narrowing your request by:

• Floor level (upper is generally better)
  
• Whether you want to be closer of further from an elevator (the former is often ballyhooded here, but is actually not a good thing to ask for if you've booked BW preferred view, since the best Illuminations views are at the Jellyrolls end of the villa building, the area farthest from the elevators). Tip: villa numbers descend as you get further from the elevators
  
• Another tip: to avoid getting stuck with a handicap accessible villa, request one WITH a bathtub. HA villas don't have these (design removes them to make room for a large roll-in shower)

 

[DisDaydreamer]

I have searched not only here, but on google and other not to be named sites but am unable to find a good map of the BWV's that show approximate room numbers, etc. I just want an idea of which room numbers face in which direction to be able to put a REQUEST in. I should have written this down during our last trip there, but I am always so certain that I won't forget things....

You are right. Unless someone has one to scan in.... it's not out there.

 

[Granny]

You are right. Unless someone has one to scan in.... it's not out there.

Well, actually..... http://www.grafics.com/disney/images/bwvmap.jpg

Even color coded!!

 

[beachblanket]

Well, actually..... http://www.grafics.com/disney/images/bwvmap.jpg

Even color coded!!

Well, actually, that's the same generic old mid 90s map that's in the link jisom12 already posted. Again, it only shows the general aggregate distribution of room #s, not indicating what side of the building each specific individual villa is on- which is precisely what the OP is looking for.

Bottom line: an official map showing individual BWV room #s by the specific direction they face (like a cruise ship deck map) doesn't exist. The only source for that info would notes/records taken by past guests. I know a compiled excel file with some (but NOT complete) BWV room info (such as features and views) has appeared from time to time on this board. Every version I've seen is dated 2004 and again is incomplete, containing info on at best about only 1/3 of the villas in the resort.

 

[Granny]

Well, actually, that's the same generic old mid 90s map that's in the link jisom12 already posted.

Yep, it sure is. That link gave me an error message when I first tried it but now it's working for me and I see it is the same map I linked to. Sorry for "re-linking".

Still, it tells the OP what they want to know. At BWV you reserve a View Designation...Standard, Preferred Boardwalk or Preferred Water/Garden. So you already know what side of the building you will be on from that without room numbers!

Once you know what side of the building you will be on based on your reservation, then the room number designations can help determine where along there you might be.

 

[DisDaydreamer]

Well, actually..... http://www.grafics.com/disney/images/bwvmap.jpg

Even color coded!!

Actually, that is the best I've seen yet... at least it does show what room numbers are in what section... Good job Granny.

 

[50 years Too!]

Beachblanket,

Great info on how NOT to get a handicapped room. Request a bathtub.
I'll try it! Thanks

 

[crisi]

Beachblanket,

Great info on how NOT to get a handicapped room. Request a bathtub.
I'll try it! Thanks

Course, that only works for studios. Handicapped one and two bedrooms have the jacuzzi tub, just like regular rooms.

Course, I think the big deal for most people about a HA room is the lack of tub in the studio. The rest of the changes are less impacting for most people.

 

[beachblanket]

Course, that only works for studios.

According the what CMs there have told me, this is not true at BWV. There are only a few HA 1 and 2 bedroom villas (at least one being preferred BW view), and apparently none have tubs (don't beleive it? Call MS ressies and ask for a BW 1 or 2br ressie, specifically indicating you want to request a tub. That's a very unusual request, so CM's almost always react to it, often with a statement to the effect "oh, you want to avoid a handicap accessible..." Interestingly, the BW view HA villa is also designated smoking boy, that's the room everyone wants - low "dwarf-sized" counters and drawers, no jacuzzi and that wonderful stale smoke stench.

And per Granny's comments about the generic map being helpful, I politely disagree. Since it only indicates the aggregate general range of numbers across huge blocks of space, it is little help to the OP in zeroing in on specific villa numbers (do they ask for high or low in the range? Odd or even?), because again what they're looking for is a cruise ship style "deck" map which indicates each individual room number.

And again...that doesn't exist.

 

[Granny]

And per Granny's comments about the generic map being helpful, I politely disagree.

That's cool. I explained why I think it helps. But no, not for a specific room number. Since the OP has not come back, I have no idea if the map jisom12 provided was helpful or not.

No problem disagreeing. And I'll try to stay away from the word "actually"...it may be interpreted as a dig when that wasn't my intention at all.

 

[WillCAD]

Well, actually, that's the same generic old mid 90s map that's in the link jisom12 already posted. Again, it only shows the general aggregate distribution of room #s, not indicating what side of the building each specific individual villa is on- which is precisely what the OP is looking for.

Well, actually, the map may not show exactly what the OP was asking for, but it is most definitely NOT a mid-90s vintage map - I picked it up in May 2005 from the Boardwalk.

 

[SueM in MN]

According the what CMs there have told me, this is not true at BWV. There are only a few HA 1 and 2 bedroom villas (at least one being preferred BW view), and apparently none have tubs (don't beleive it? Call MS ressies and ask for a BW 1 or 2br ressie, specifically indicating you want to request a tub. That's a very unusual request, so CM's almost always react to it, often with a statement to the effect "oh, you want to avoid a handicap accessible..." [/B]

I'd be interested to hear from someone who has actually stayed in an accessible 1 or 2 bedroom at BWV before saying they don't have tubs.

I know from personal experience that the accessible 1 and 2 bedroom villas at OKW and SSR have jacuzzis. I have stayed in non-HA 1 and 2 bedrooms at BWV, VWL, SSR and BCV. The floor plan of those are all pretty similar to the HA ones, so I don't see why they would not have the jacuzzi in the HA rooms at all of those resorts.

It could be the CM's response is because they get a lot of DIS people who have read to ask for a tub and stated their reason was to avold a HA room, rather than because the HA rooms don't have tubs.

 

[MermaidsMom]

Thanks so much for the replies. The map wasn't what I was hoping to find, but it's still very helpful. The last time we stayed at the BWV, we were in a 2 bedroom handicapped unit and I really liked it! We have been to WDW so many times that my memory may be wrong, but I believe we had a jacuzzi in the master bedroom and a roll in shower in the 2nd bedroom. I am 5'4" tall and the lower kitchen cabinets made the kitchen very nice to use. I could reach everything without ever getting a chair to stand on! That is the part I liked the best. We are not smokers and if there had been a smoking odor I would have noticed it and did not.

 

[jade1]

Did the BWV pool have a bridge at one time or was that the plan and never did happen-as the picture shows?

 

[beachblanket]

Well, actually, the map may not show exactly what the OP was asking for, but it is most definitely NOT a mid-90s vintage map - I picked it up in May 2005 from the Boardwalk.

Yes, the design of the map is mid-90s vintage. Disney first released that map eleven years ago back in 1996 when the resort first opened, and while still producing it and handing it out to BW guests has never updated it. I have a copy I picked up in August '05, and it is identical to the one we got from DVC when we purchased our BWV membership in 1997.

I also know from repeatedly asking at the BW front desk that is the only map Disney publicly releases that even comes close to what the OP is seeking. A "cruise line deck map" type piece like the one I keep describing that shows every individual room number likely does exist - but only for internal staff use at BWV (maybe some WDW Disney resort CM who wanders into this thread can snatch one, scan and post it for for us? )

I'd be interested to hear from someone who has actually stayed in an accessible 1 or 2 bedroom at BWV before saying they don't have tubs.

I know from personal experience that the accessible 1 and 2 bedroom villas at OKW and SSR have jacuzzis. I have stayed in non-HA 1 and 2 bedrooms at BWV, VWL, SSR and BCV. The floor plan of those are all pretty similar to the HA ones, so I don't see why they would not have the jacuzzi in the HA rooms at all of those resorts.

It could be the CM's response is because they get a lot of DIS people who have read to ask for a tub and stated their reason was to avold a HA room, rather than because the HA rooms don't have tubs.

Granted, it would be nice to have hard info from someone who has actually stayed in a HA 1BR BW villa (where unlike a 2 BR there is only one bath area and hence no flexibility to enlarge the shower without impacting the space needed for a jacuzzi). However, I'm not at all sure about the theory that "lots of people have read to ask for a tub."

Why? Not only have I never seen that recommendation here or on any other DVC related web site, but I actually picked that nice little "tip" from a seasoned DVC ressie CM back in 2001.

I'd called to make a day by day ressie for a BW view villa at 11 months during a busy season, and in the process of making the "request" part of the reservation she said "based on what you are looking for (which was one of the better BW view 1 bedrooms, she could tell based on my requests I was definitely trying to cherry pick), you may want to request a tub."

I responded "Why? Do some of the villas not have them? " She slowly answered " (WINK WINK) Yes, the accessible villas -- ahem, you know, the ones for people with special needs (HINT HINT - I could almost see here grinning at the other end of the line) don't have tubs (WINK WINK WINK).

Did the BWV pool have a bridge at one time or was that the plan and never did happen-as the picture shows?

Excellent observation, you've caught a "typo" Disney has never corrected. Not only has there (to my direct knowledge, which goes back to 1997) never been a bridge across the pool, but in addition the shape shown on the map is wrong and also shows a non-existent "lagoon" area near the top connected to the main pool. I suspect that the pool shown was from some initial draft blueprint, and was never updated when this guest map was being finalized.

 

[lisareniff]

I also know from repeatedly asking at the BW front desk that is the only map Disney publicly releases that even comes close to what the OP is seeking. A "cruise line deck map" type piece like the one I keep describing that shows every individual room number likely does exist - but only for internal staff use at BWV (maybe some WDW Disney resort CM who wanders into this thread can snatch one, scan and post it for for us? )

Another way that it maybe possible to get a map is from the closing documents from disney. In our closing documents for our BCV contract that I bought directly from Disney there was a floor plan of the building (every floor). I believe this is were DisZip go his floor plan that is used for BCV as well. Anyone want to dig in their paperwork to see if it is there for BWV? It was the 'Vacation Ownership Club Site Offering Plan' Exibit D - Floor Plans.

An alternate but much more difficult route would be to go to the Orange County web site and download the plans in the unit segments and paste them all together! Some Diser might have the time for that, but not me!

 

[crisi]

Since there certainly are one and two bedroom HA units with tubs at BWV however (I've stayed in one), requesting a tub wouldn't ensure you don't get a HA villa. It would make it unlikely you get one without a tub, if such a thing exists.

 

[beachblanket]

Since there certainly are one and two bedroom HA units with tubs at BWV however (I've stayed in one).

Both types, or just the 2Br? BW view, or some other category?

All 9 of my stays at the BW have been in BW view one bedrooms, and in all but one case the ressie included that "tub please" (WINK WINK) request.

And in none of the stays was I given an HA. Given the number of BW view 1 bedrooms and the fact at least two are confirmed HA, the laws of probability would argue my "luck" isn't a random outcome.