BWV/BCV Owners Re: Transportation

[Richyams]

I think its because with free valet parking at some and the ability to park in front of your unit at others, Disney feels that most people will not be to cheap to get a rental car.

I know, there are a thousand reasons to use Disney transportation, teenagers, those that hate driving on vacation, etc, but I think that since they set it p so well for driving, they figure only those in the value resorts won't have rental cars.

 

[DVCPAT]

We always drive our car to visit other resorts and water parks. I was always under the impression it’s a pain to drive to the theme parks. Disney transportation is suppose to be one of the perks to staying on-site.

When you drive to the theme parks you basically take the same route as guests visiting from off-site accommodations, correct?

 

[DeeP]

Bottom line..............The resorts that are within walking distance, a monorail ride or boat ride away from a major park(s), numerous restaurants, shopping venues, nighttime park parades & fireworks, etc.; offer a very BIG advantage, guest convenience to the hilt and a very, very much desired location and amenities to any guests that stay at these resorts!!! Let's face it, this is not even debatable!

 

[msdis]

Disney should make the cash customers pay more to offset the cost. DVC owners should not have to pay. Make the convention people pay. We walk almost at all costs to avoid the bus. We even take the monorail to Epcot from MK and enter just to exit out back. We take the MGM bus from anywhere just to exit and walk. The system is overworked. Even when we do get on the bus to the resorts we get off at the 1st stop and walk. DH hates the bus and we avoid at VWL too by taking the boat from the Contemporary.

 

[DVCPAT]

Originally posted by DeeP
Bottom line..............The resorts that are within walking distance, a monorail ride or boat ride away from a major park(s), numerous restaurants, shopping venues, nighttime park parades & fireworks, etc.; offer a very BIG advantage, guest convenience to the hilt and a very, very much desired location and amenities to any guests that stay at these resorts!!! Let's face it, this is not even debatable!

I’m with you. I thought maybe I was missing something like a secret entrance or special parking area.

 

[Poorman]

This is another thread that shoud be sent to DVC management.
I think the more we e-mail them the better the chances they will see the light.

OK who know's where to send it?????

 

[Richyams]

Send it to them? Why?

So that they can see that almost 80% are willing to spend no money?????

Or that the general consensus is that it should be improved?

Again, they offer free valet parking or parking in front of your unit, there really is no need for increased bus service.

Personally, I think there are too many busses as it is, I think they should be cut down. They are too noisy and obnoxious both at the resorts and when you are walking near a bus stop.

 

[Poorman]

Rich,
Have you ever been to BWV with your car and wait 1/2 an hour to get your car from the valet service????? I have. It happened twice in succession, I then started getting my car myself.In the parking lot which is way too full of non disney resort guests.
So much for the free valet parking.
Have you ever waited 45 minutes for a bus at BWV going to AKL?

I have. It is not fun. And then on the way back,after a long day in the park with 2 small grandchildren,having to get off at the Swan to beat the bus back to BWV or wait another 20 minutes to get back to the resort,a lot of the times standing.

Rich ,I know you love OKW ,rightly so,but you can't tell me you think the bus service is adequate?

Not trying to start anything here but the bus service at BWV is terrible......

 

[Richyams]

I think the bus service is more than adequate, in fact, there are too many busses.

I have valeted at BWV many, many times, I have never had any kind of wait.

I have actually never taken a Disney bus to any park, I think the bus service is more than adequate.

Since I have found parking in front of your unit AND valet parking to be flawless(and free), I think they could dramatically cut the busses and make the entire place more pleasent.

 

[PKS44]

Originally posted by Richyams
I think the bus service is more than adequate, in fact, there are too many busses.

I have valeted at BWV many, many times, I have never had any kind of wait.

I have actually never taken a Disney bus to any park, I think the bus service is more than adequate.

Since I have found parking in front of your unit AND valet parking to be flawless(and free), I think they could dramatically cut the busses and make the entire place more pleasent.

Obviously because Rich has never had a problem everyone else who has is misguided and misinformed. Anyone who actually has used the buses is confused by having actual factual experience--silly fools..If one has no personal knowledge of how well the buses actually work since he has never taken one -using the word "think" in describing an opinion of the adequacy of that same servive he has no experience with seems strange ...That opinion clearly did not come out of any process that can rightly be called thinking. But it is is refresing and unusual on the internet to see someone so open about his own ignorance on a topic when he offers his opinion. Most people just pretend they know what they are talking about- but he tells us right off that he does not. Thanks.

 

[jaysue]

Let's all find out when Rich likes to travel and book up all the GV's at OKW

 

[Richyams]

HUH????

First off, since I have never taken a bus to any park, the bus service is more than adequate for me, as a matter of fact, there are too many busses and having them around all the time is unpleasent, I think it would be much more comfortable with less busses.

DVC is set up VERY car friendly. We can park in front of our units or use free valet parking, why is there a need for any busses at all?

I know, the teenagers that can roam alone, ok, but they are teenagers, they need a little difficulty and a few challanges to prepare them for life. Also, I guess we don't want too many people from England or any other place that drives on the wrong side of the road out driving too much.

I think that if you have a problem with the buses, don't use them. A car is much easier and offers way more flexibility. I would never want to be at the mercy of WDW busses.

 

[cheyita]

We drove to MK one day last trip, and that reminded us why we love the buses. With two young children who are tired at the end of a day, it is much more convenient to walk to the bus stop and wait a few minutes for a bus, then hop on and settle in. When driving, first you need to monorail or boat, then tram, then you can get back. Granted, I think the buses to Epcot resorts should be split up, because the convenience is lessened when you have to wait for a second bus or the bus is so crowded you have to stand. But it's also a pain to stand on a crowded monorail or wait for a second tram. We just think the bus is more convenient and would appreciate it being more effecient.

 

[PKS44]

Originally posted by Richyams
HUH????

First off, since I have never taken a bus to any park, the bus service is more than adequate for me, as a matter of fact, there are too many busses and having them around all the time is unpleasent, I think it would be much more comfortable with less busses.

DVC is set up VERY car friendly. We can park in front of our units or use free valet parking, why is there a need for any busses at all?

I know, the teenagers that can roam alone, ok, but they are teenagers, they need a little difficulty and a few challanges to prepare them for life. Also, I guess we don't want too many people from England or any other place that drives on the wrong side of the road out driving too much.

I think that if you have a problem with the buses, don't use them. A car is much easier and offers way more flexibility. I would never want to be at the mercy of WDW busses.

so what ever your needs are defines the needs for everyone else...Example of this sort of thinkiing:
I have never gone to an early morning character breakfast--no interest...they waste so many buses carting people to those breakfasts..I think there are too many of those breakfasts...Disney would be much better if they had fewer of those breakfasts. Then they would have more buses for the rest of us....And the people reserving breakfasts...they just tie up the phone lines when I am trying to make my dinner reservations....how annoying..and I know people can't get the breakfast they want so they should just get rid of them--(Does anything I just said make any sense? No - it is thoughtless, self-centered and ridiculous)

Some people can't drive to Disney, can't always rent a car for 2 or three weeks or would rather spend that money in other ways. Disney brags about and CHARGES for their convenient transportation and in general about their excellent service...the BWV buses do not live up to the brand name or the implied promises of excellent service.... even the very conservative claim that buses arrive every 20 minutes is doubtful.

Disney is the business of satisfying their guests needs. Transportaion is one of those needs that Disney has decided THEY want to try to meet. As a company they need to do a Disney qualtiy job of it or not do it...doing it poorly is BAD for the guests and for Disney ultimately...If you don't need the buses-then don't use them--but if people don't have a clue about how they work or why some people do rely on them-- they should keep their uninformed -I hesitate to use the word "opinion" since that would imply some rational thought is involved which in this case it is not- such people should keep their feelings on the subject to themselves because that is the only person to whom such feelings have any relevance...

 

[PKS44]

....and furthermore--if there were FEWER buses the people on those buses would be in lots and lots more cars.. This would lead to more traffic on the roadways of WDW, more back-ups at parking lot toll plazas, more crowded parking lots and fewer spaces EVERYWHERE-parks, resorts, DTD, and even OKW...finding a spot right in front of a unit would be more difficult....the idea that elimination of a mass transit system in favor of more individuals driving could be more pleasant is just not thought out at all...what Disney needs is better mass transit not less of it.

 

[CarolynFH]

Don't let Rich get to you, PKS44. I'm beginning to think his world is a lot different from mine, and probably from yours, too.

I'm not sure those CMs at bus stops with radios etc. are there for anything more than show. We were staying at BWV and wanted to ride the bus to MK for EMH. (We usually don't drive our car to MK, due to the process cheyita described.) There were already quite a few folks waiting for the bus when we got to the stop. We then waited 45 minutes before a MK bus came at all. In the meantime, no fewer than 5 COMPLETELY EMPTY buses came for Typhoon Lagoon, and not one person got on any of them. When the MK bus finally arrived, we were told that the previous one had broken down, which supposedly explained the gap in the "20 minute" schedule. And of course the bus that arrived was nearly full. Only about 6 or 10 of the by-then 50 or more people waiting were able to get on. We were among the lucky few, so I don't know how much longer the others waited!

However, a CM was there the entire time. Why did no one radio to the CM that the bus had broken down? And why did the CM not radio to whoever was in charge and tell them that they had WAY too many TL buses, and not enough MK buses? Seems like having a CM stationed there would mean the CM could report that they needed to divert one or more of the TL to go to MK. Would have made a lot of sense, and I can't imagine why a company as sophisticated as Disney hasn't thought of it....

 

[DVCPAT]

Originally posted by Richyams
HUH????

First off, since I have never taken a bus to any park, the bus service is more than adequate for me, as a matter of fact, there are too many busses and having them around all the time is unpleasent, I think it would be much more comfortable with less busses.

DVC is set up VERY car friendly. We can park in front of our units or use free valet parking, why is there a need for any busses at all?

I know, the teenagers that can roam alone, ok, but they are teenagers, they need a little difficulty and a few challanges to prepare them for life. Also, I guess we don't want too many people from England or any other place that drives on the wrong side of the road out driving too much.

I think that if you have a problem with the buses, don't use them. A car is much easier and offers way more flexibility. I would never want to be at the mercy of WDW busses.

Rich, do you park in one of the huge lots used by off-site guests or do you valet park in the nearest resort and use its transportation into the theme park? The huge parking lots seem like a nightmare.

 

[DebbieB]

We always rent a car and most of the time take it to the parks and park in their main lots. It isn't that bad. The tram is waiting at the end of the row and takes you to the main gate (or the TTC for MK). We don't like the busses, you frequently have to stand packed in like sardines (not just the DVC resorts, every resort we have stayed at). The only time we use the bus is to MK when we go at night, it's quicker to just hop on the bus outside MK when the crowds are all leaving at once.

 

[Desperado]

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Obviously because Rich has never had a problem everyone else who has is misguided and misinformed. Anyone who actually has used the buses is confused by having actual factual experience--silly fools..If one has no personal knowledge of how well the buses actually work since he has never taken one -using the word "think" in describing an opinion of the adequacy of that same servive he has no experience with seems strange ...That opinion clearly did not come out of any process that can rightly be called thinking. But it is is refresing and unusual on the internet to see someone so open about his own ignorance on a topic when he offers his opinion. Most people just pretend they know what they are talking about- but he tells us right off that he does not. Thanks. [/QUOTE]
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[DVCPAT]

Originally posted by DebbieB
We always rent a car and most of the time take it to the parks and park in their main lots. It isn't that bad.

I’m going to try it. It seems like driving defeats the purpose of staying on-site though. We usually leave the parks around noon so the cars AC will probably kick in as I hand the keys to the valet attendant.

Maybe if more members start to drive around the property it will create new bottlenecks. Disney may decide it’s more efficient to provide timely transportation rather than widening the roads and expanding the parking lots.