Buying multiple tickets for more fastpasses

[morethananyonex]

This came up a few days ago in one of the longer threads. I think this would work and I think you would not even be breaking any WDW rules.

Oh, I'm sure it would count as "working the system" or "abuse" to some.

The key is WDW rules, not rules based on "DIS morals".

 

[btk2333]

Oh, I'm sure it would count as "working the system" or "abuse" to some.

oh yeah sure some people wouldn't like it, but it seems like a perfectly acceptable way to get more FP+'s. If you want to pay for two or three park tickets go for it. It would also allow you to park hop and make FP+ reservations at each.

 

[mesaboy2]

oh yeah sure some people wouldn't like it, but it seems like a perfectly acceptable way to get more FP+'s. If you want to pay for two or three park tickets go for it. It would also allow you to park hop and make FP+ reservations at each.

I agree with you. But it's seemingly sensible statements like this that lead to some interesting back-and-forths on here. Kinda like paying for a campsite and not using it--I enjoyed that read.

 

[Lindaland]

You seem angry. Why do you care so much how someone else spends their money? I bet Disney would love it if they knew FP+ has caused a family to consider spending double on their tickets. The OP never said they hate it so much like you seem to think.

I think it's a waste too, but only because it's very expensive for 1-3 extra rides. If someone wants to do it, why would any of us care? I don't see the need for outrage.

I have no anger or outrage for what the OP is suggesting, just confused (as seen by the "confused" smiley in my post). As for my comment, I was responding to the OP's other post.......

As it stands, Disney has lost our business because of FP+. This method is the only way I'd consider going back.

If you say "Disney has lost our business" and the only way around it is to double your tickets and then run in and out of the park just to get a couple more FP rides, well that just seems silly. It was just a comment. I really don't care what the OP spends their money on, but if you are going to post a thread asking what people think, then people will make comments.

 

[Cheesehead9]

While it isn't something you or I might do, there is no need for the scolding. If WDW sold a front of the line pass for $200 per person per day, you know darn well that there are people who would buy it, including many who post here. What the OP is considering is akin to creating his/her own version. I haven't done the math, but maybe the cost comes out to something close to what some would pay for never having to wait in line. For example, maybe a couple who routinely pays $650 per night for a room at the GF and $50 per day for park admission would trade that for a $200 room at Port Orleans and $500 per day in park admissions with 20+ FP per day. Who are we to judge?

JimmyV nailed it with this post. Although I feel $23 per FP is in the upper range of what we're willing to pay (especially given FP tiers), many people find great value in not standing in long lines on vacation.

When considered against the opportunity cost of being away from work and the additional cost of the vacation itself, I am happy to pay an extra 10-20% for front of the line access.

 

[morethananyonex]

JimmyV nailed it with this post. Although I feel $23 per FP is in the upper range of what we're willing to pay (especially given FP tiers), many people find great value in not standing in long lines on vacation.

When considered against the opportunity cost of being away from work and the additional cost of the vacation itself, I am happy to pay an extra 10-20% for front of the line access.

Just want to make sure you know what you're actually paying for. If you think your extra ticket will get you something similar to FOTL you're setting yourself up for disappointment.

At MK and AK you'll get 3 extra FP+, no strings attached. At AK it can be argued that those aren't really necessary at all. At DHS it will get you one of RnRC or TSMM (or any of the other useless options), and basically ToT and another ride that doesn't usually need a FP+. At Epcot you're virtually getting 1 extra FP+ that can be used to ride a tier one ride twice or the other tier one ride you didn't choose with you first ticket. The tier two FP+ are useless unless you are going at some of the busiest times of the year.

Obviously your decision and your money, but unless you're planning on using the second ticket to hop, you're spending most of your time in MK, you're going at a very busy time, or riding twice in the FP+ line is vital, you may end up disappointed. Keep in mind there have been reports of longer than usual FP return times believed to be brought on by FP+. I would hate to see you spend double the money on tickets and still end up disappointed.

 

[btk2333]

Obviously your decision and your money, but unless you're planning on using the second ticket to hop, you're spending most of your time in MK, you're going at a very busy time, or riding twice in the FP+ line is vital, you may end up disappointed. Keep in mind there have been reports of longer than usual FP return times believed to be brought on by FP+. I would hate to see you spend double the money on tickets and still end up disappointed.

Now I'm not planning to ever do this; however, ironically, your post advising him not to do so actually pointed out a lot of reasons why I would consider it.

 

[morethananyonex]

Now I'm not planning to ever do this; however, ironically, your post advising him not to do so actually pointed out a lot of reasons why I would consider it.

I'm not saying not to do it at all, I'm saying to OP know exactly what you're getting into. With the restrictions on the FP+ system, and the mess it seems to be making of the ride times, there's a lot of opportunity to be even more disappointed when you spend double the money and still have to deal with some of the problems FP+ creates.

It's not even close to FOTL access like OP stated they would be willing to pay for. That's all I'm saying.

 

[Ravenne]

Yes - the trick right now is having every ticket associated with a person on the room reservation so you can pre-book the FP+.

A party of two could do this easily. Just pretend to be a party of 4, and give two fictitious names for the fictitious people. Buy all "4" people tickets and off you go.

If you are already a party of 3 or more, you will have a problem. You will also need another room to pre-book unless Disney changes this limitation.

So not only would you be paying for 4 tickets for 2 people, you'd also be paying for 4 occupancy at the resort instead of 2. No?

 

[johnnyf0614]

Doesn't a park ticket need to show that you entered the park in order for FP+ to even work? How would you enter scanning 2 cards and 2 finger scans?

 

[chartle]

Doesn't a park ticket need to show that you entered the park in order for FP+ to even work? How would you enter scanning 2 cards and 2 finger scans?

As pointed out above, leave and come back in using the other ticket/band. Now both are activated.

 

[johnnyf0614]

As pointed out above, leave and come back in using the other ticket/band. Now both are activated.

Haha, Oops. Sorry I didn't read the whole thread. Only the last few posts. I was sitting on the train to work and read quickly.

 

[mentul77]

While I personally think this is ridiculous, yes, you can do it. http://**************.net/2014/01/26/how-to-get-six-fastpass-a-day-at-walt-disney-world/

 

[JimmyV]

At DHS it will get you one of RnRC or TSMM (or any of the other useless options), and basically ToT and another ride that doesn't usually need a FP+.

Here's an example of how things might shake out at DHS. Buy three 6 Day Non-Park Hopper Passes for $954. That works out to $159 per day, which is the equivalent of a round of golf at a resort course, (including Disney's own Palm and Magnolia), and only slightly more than a single day lift ticket at a major ski area. And less than most Broadway plays, and about what a mid-level ticket would cost to a game at Yankee Stadium. And it is less than hiring a private guide at WDW. These tickets would allow you the following, all through the FP line:

2 rides on TSM
1 ride on RnR
3 rides on ToT
2 rides on Star Tours
1 ride on another attraction, such as Great Movie Ride

If you arrive at RD and add in 2 immediate rides on RnR before the line builds up, that would be 11 rides with little to no wait. That's pretty much what a typical day used to look like under FP-. And all for the cost of going to a show on Broadway. Not for everyone, but not as ridiculous as it sounds. Of course, this would likely involve at least 1 of those 3 tickets to be "day guest" hard tickets, not linked to any room reservation, so FP+ times would not be available in advance.

 

[way2tyred]

I wouldn't do it, but just think! If a significant number of people did do this, the parks would be much less crowded (not on paper, but in real life)

 

[BuckeyeBama]

So not only would you be paying for 4 tickets for 2 people, you'd also be paying for 4 occupancy at the resort instead of 2. No?

Only if you make the ages of the ficticious two fully adult. Make them both 16 years old and you are golden.

 

[wareagle57]

May I suggest offering to give 4 (or however many people are in you party) people you know free tickets to Disney World in exchange for their magic bands? I'm sure just about anybody that wants to go would be willing to do this.

 

[PaulaVonSchweetz]

Thanks for the quick responses. Essentially, this method costs about $23 per FP+ reservation, assuming 4-day tickets.

As it stands, Disney has lost our business because of FP+. This method is the only way I'd consider going back. Any "improvements" they make to FP+ will hopefully make this strategy more appealing.

I'm sorry but I just can not believe that there are people who only go to Disney for fast passing the rides. Disney is so much more than rides people!!!!!
I get that people don't like change but it's still in its infancy and I'm sure that kinks will be worked out and people will have the ability to obtain more FP in the future.

Relax!! Don't let this hiccup in their process turn you off so much that you would go back.

 

[gwmort]

Would need to take once of those extreme couponing organizers with you to keep track of all the tickets and which fp's are on each, otherwise it could be quite the scene trying to scan into a fp line going through a stack of tickets (or combinations of bands and tickets).

Also if it really doesn't break any rules why would there be a problem activating all your tickets on a single entry ("now I'd like to activate this separate ticket, and now I'd like to activate this last one...")

 

[glamdring269]

This is an interesting concept. I ran the numbers a little differently using our typical style. We would buy a 5-day ticket on the next trip and always park hop. So a cost per person would be as follows.

5-day ticket = $289
Park Hopper = $59
Total = $348
Total/Day = $69.60

However, if we decided to buy an extra ticket for each day and get rid of the park hopper option this would still allow us to hop but would also give us 3 FP+ at the evening/night park of choice.

5-day ticket x2 = $578
Total/Day = $115.60

So what does this mean those extra FPs cost?

$115.60 - $69.60 = $46

$46 / 3 fast passes = $15.33 per FP+ per day

I'm not a proponent of this idea as I don't think the value is there given the current tiering and other rules. However, I do think this shows a way to provide more value to a person who might be considering it assuming they would also normally buy a hopper.