Bush will veto attempts to stop Dubai based company run our ports

[Laugh O. Grams]

Not strange at all in the context of everything I've been reading about this. Port officials at all the ports affected, as well as industry experts from the U.S. and around the globe are in agreement that they don't see what the fuss is about. The industry is already global, and foreign companies and governments are already providing port operations in other cities.

In fact, the Port Authority here in my city, Tampa, just voted yesterday to sign a contract with the British company, P & O, knowing full well that when the purchase goes through, the new operator will be Dubai Ports World.

The port director called the deal "a critical step for the port and the region."

And there enlies Bush's problem. When he said "Since they have been vetted by the CIA, I have no problem with UAE's possible ties to 9/11", the American public said "We hate it!!". So if he now says "I had no idea that we were doing this", the American public will say "WHAT?!?!". He's basically trapped into looking bad with the American public regardless of his reasons. Karl Rove must have been on vacation when they came up with this seemingly pedestrian idea.

 

[eclectics]

And there enlies Bush's problem. When he said "Since they have been vetted by the CIA, I have no problem with UAE's possible ties to 9/11", the American public said "We hate it!!". So if he now says "I had no idea that we were doing this", the American public will say "WHAT?!?!". He's basically trapped into looking bad with the American public regardless of his reasons. Karl Rove must have been on vacation when they came up with this seemingly pedestrian idea.

The spin doctors will be working overtime, I'm sure. It's bad enough all of us are somewhat confused and ill informed about this issue, our President shouldn't be one of the crowd.

 

[LakeAriel]

And Howard Dean helped!

Silly me! I forgot the "The Chairman"

 

[crazyme5kids]

I guess what I think is strange is that given the fact that securing the ports is a priority, one that involves national security against possible terrorist attacks, Bush would have been informed,as well as been involved in the decision process before a deal was struck.

Why or what would be the reason for not informing him of it before a deal was struck? Is it really that much of a no big deal issue that he didn't need to know about the issue before hand?

 

[DawnCt1]

I guess what I think is strange is that given the fact that securing the ports is a priority, one that involves national security against possible terrorist attacks, Bush would have been informed,as well as been involved in the decision process before a deal was struck.

Why or what would be the reason for not informing him of it before a deal was struck? Is it really that much of a no big deal issue that he didn't need to know about the issue before hand?

Someone likened what the port companies do to a "travel agent" for cargo containers. A travel agent sells you a ticket, is concerned about the number of people traveling, the bags, etc but has nothing to do with airport security. These port companies decide which containers go where, on which ship or to what dock. It seems that if anyone wanted to do serious harm to a port, they wouldn't need to be in charge of port operations, they could just send "whatever" in a container. I don't think he was informed because there are agencies and committees that do just this sort of thing. When a cable company wants to come into Ct. the DPUC handles the vetting, it doesn't go to the governor. So when a sale of one company to another happens on the federal level, it goes to the areas of government that handle that, not to the president. It makes sense that he wouldn't have been informed.

 

[crazyme5kids]

Wait a minute! Am I really supposed to believe that in the matters of national security that it should make sense the president isn't informed? Sorry , but this time it won't float with me. If his administration knows, and in this case was making the decision, why was he not informed until after the fact? It doesn't sit well with me. What else do they feel Bush doesn't need to know or make a decision on when it pertains to national security?

Part of me is starting to wonder if his own administration is trying to sabotage him. That's a whole other debate though.

 

[bsnyder]

Wait a minute! Am I really supposed to believe that in the matters of national security that it should make sense the president isn't informed? Sorry , but this time it won't float with me. If his administration knows, and in this case was making the decision, why was he not informed until after the fact? It doesn't sit well with me. What else do they feel Bush doesn't need to know or make a decision on when it pertains to national security?

Part of me is starting to wonder if his own administration is trying to sabotage him. That's a whole other debate though.

Sorry, but I think you VASTLY underestimate the size and scope of our government bureaucracy and our nation's enormous economy.

 

[Puffy2]

He wasn't informed the last time there was a terror scare on the Captial either...remember? the secret service "didn't want to interupt his bike ride" !?!

For someone who "wasn't informed" just a couple of days ago, he sure did come out awfully adament about it with his major threat to "veto" any legislation from congress that would limit foreign countries from acting as port security. also , a big "huh???"

Besides, it's not so much little old "Bush" all by himself. It's the Bush Administration...Bushee is just the tip of the ugly iceberg.

 

[LakeAriel]

Someone likened what the port companies do to a "travel agent" for cargo containers. A travel agent sells you a ticket, is concerned about the number of people traveling, the bags, etc but has nothing to do with airport security. These port companies decide which containers go where, on which ship or to what dock. It seems that if anyone wanted to do serious harm to a port, they wouldn't need to be in charge of port operations, they could just send "whatever" in a container. I don't think he was informed because there are agencies and committees that do just this sort of thing. When a cable company wants to come into Ct. the DPUC handles the vetting, it doesn't go to the governor. So when a sale of one company to another happens on the federal level, it goes to the areas of government that handle that, not to the president. It makes sense that he wouldn't have been informed.

It ONLY makes sense to you...

 

[Puffy2]

Sorry, but I think you VASTLY underestimate the size and scope of our government bureaucracy and our nation's enormous economy.

You know, anything that is on the nightly news - stuff the average Joe knows about - I think the President of the United States of America, the Leader of the Free World, should know about it too.

It's like the Katrina failure. The man claimed "he didn't know" when the media had the tragedy plastered all over the national televison. Good grief.

 

[crazyme5kids]

bsnyder, I'm not sure what you mean by that comment, so would you please explain it?

 

[Sylvester McBean]

I voted for the W. the first time. I withheld voting in the second election when I realized my president and his opponent were both scumbags. he flew the Bin Laden family out of Tampa International right after September 11th. those SOB's were a half hour from my house. and now he jumps from flexng his veto rights straight into 'I had no idea this transaction had been approved'. he's clearly showing he's a bedmate with the Saudi's and a pathetic, lame duck, piece of garbage.

 

[bsnyder]

You know, anything that is on the nightly news - stuff the average Joe knows about - I think the President of the United States of America, the Leader of the Free World, should know about it too.

It's like the Katrina failure. The man claimed "he didn't know" when the media had the tragedy plastered all over the national televison. Good grief.

Who says he didn't know about it before the Average Joe found out?

bsnyder, I'm not sure what you mean by that comment, so would you please explain it?

What I meant was that there are many other business transactions similar to this one (not necessarily identical, but similar, and that have national security implications) that are vetted by all the appropriate agencies without the President's direct, hands on approval. It happens every day.

 

[bsnyder]

I voted for the W. the first time. I withheld voting in the second election when I realized my president and his opponent were both scumbags. he flew the Bin Laden family out of Tampa International right after September 11th. those SOB's were a half hour from my house. and now he jumps from flexng his veto rights straight into 'I had no idea this transaction had been approved'. he's clearly showing he's a bedmate with the Saudi's and a pathetic, lame duck, piece of garbage.

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/flights.asp

You need to pay better attention to the facts, and not just sensational email hoaxes. Read the whole link, including the 9/11 Commsion's findings on the Tampa flight.

 

[Sylvester McBean]

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/flights.asp

You need to pay better attention to the facts, and not just sensational email hoaxes. Read the whole link, including the 9/11 Commsion's findings on the Tampa flight.

Snopes and the 9/11 commision as evidence? and you think I glean my views fom mass e-mails?

 

[bsnyder]

Snopes and the 9/11 commision as evidence? and you think I glean my views fom mass e-mails?

So what's your evidence for your claim?

 

[djcruz4fun]

This is just a bad idea, like giving the fox keys to the hen house.

 

[Sylvester McBean]

set your wayback machine to September 12th, 2001. my office is scarcely a mile from TIA. the FAA had supposedly grounded all commercial flights. Central Command (CentCom) is based a few miles south on lower Tampa Bay. if you don't think we weren't pinned to the windows watching the activity at TIA runways you would be wrong. military craft don't have flight markings emblazoned on the tails. who were on those planes? who knows. but there were outbound passenger planes from Tampa, Florida on September 12th and 13th. one was a large Delta jet. my physical evidence? none. we saw what we saw. you don't have to believe me. in the meantime, purchase:

http://www.houseofbush.com/news.php

 

[bsnyder]

you don't have to believe me.

You're right. I don't have to. And I don't.

The St. Pete Times article linked to doesn't corroberate your story at all. You do realize that, don't you?

From the 9/11 Commission (which fits with the facts obtained from TIA):

Another particular allegation is that a flight carrying Saudi nationals from Tampa, Florida, to Lexington, Kentucky, was allowed to fly while airspace was closed, with special approval by senior U.S. government officials. On September 13, Tampa police brought three young Saudis they were protecting on an off-duty security detail to the airport so they could get on a plane to Lexington. Tampa police arranged for two more private investigators to provide security on the flight. They boarded a chartered Learjet. The plane took off at 4:37 P.M., after national airspace was open, more than five hours after the Tampa airport had reopened, and after other flights had arrived at and departed from that airport. The three Saudi nationals debarked from the plane and were met by local police. Their private security guards were paid. and the police then escorted the three Saudi passengers to a hotel where they joined relatives already in Lexington. The FBI is alleged to have had no record of the flight and denied that it occurred, hence contributing to the story of a "phantom flight." This is another misunderstanding. The FBI was initially misinformed about how the Saudis got to Lexington by a local police officer in Lexington who did not have firsthand knowledge of the matter. The Bureau subsequently learned about the flight.

 

[punkin]

Remember the cherry trees? Froom 1912? Post WWII we have Toyota, Sony, Honda, Mitsubishi and yes, even Beni Hana. So what?

Um Dawn I really hate to break it to you but Rocky Benihawna is from the US!!! An american born and bred. Japan did give us really enjoyable monster movies.... GO GODZILLA!