Breaking News, Monorails at WDW collide

so are you saying that the driver who was killed was in the stationary train, and it was the other train that reversed into him??
that's an even more horrifying scenario......i mean, in both cases it's terrible because he's killed, but in the one you're describing, the train came barreling into him....

yes, that is essentially what the poster from mice age is saying.

I find it interesting...all the speculation, all the morons on news sites blaming the kid who got killed, when in fact he was sitting in position as he was supposed to, Pink backed into him, and it's someone at central's fault that it happened!
 
yes, that is essentially what the poster from mice age is saying.

I find it interesting...all the speculation, all the morons on news sites blaming the kid who got killed, when in fact he was sitting in position as he was supposed to, Pink backed into him, and it's someone at central's fault that it happened!

OMG....if that version is true it would mean that the driver who's alive accidentally killed the driver in the rear train....how completely horrible for him....even though it wasn't his fault, he's going to feel terribly terribly guilty....
 
Just plain awful. Gives me chills. Lets please take this time to remember a cast member that has led us to our dreams and filled are hearts with joy and fun. God bless x
 
from miceage:



Hi guys,

I'm a former Mark VI railie, and I stay in touch with a fair number of folks in the department. Here's what I've heard. I'm going to stress that it's what I've heard, and I can't represent this as absolute fact. Take that for what it's worth.

The short, short version is that Monorail Central cleared Monorail Pink in reverse into the Concourse (the Epcot side of the TTC) station without being aware that Monorail Purple was still in the station. Pink was cleared with MAPO override, meaning that the driver would have disabled the anti-collision system (there are a variety of legitimate reasons for doing this), and would have been acting on faith that Central wouldn't have cleared him into a dangerous situation because it sometimes is difficult to see everything you'd want to in the cab mirrors, particularly at night on a curve such as the one he was backing along. For whatever reason, Purple just sat in the station without attempting to avoid the accident, and was struck by Pink moving at the full 15 mph allowed during MAPO override. From what I understand, the driver of Purple was a new transfer from another department. Why Central would not have made sure the station was clear before moving any trains is a bit of a mystery, but I've heard that no one was actually in the control console (the control tower-looking place at Concourse) at the time. To my knowledge, there were no electrical or mechanical problems in play here. Again, I have to stress that I'm relating what I've heard, and I was not there. This is a second-hand account from others more familiar with the situation.

Okay, speculation time.

Why would Purple have just sat in the station and let himself get hit? Well, it was a new driver from what I understand, and when Pink got close enough to trigger Purple's MAPO system, it's quite possible that the driver of Purple freaked a little bit (any time a driver gets an unexpected red MAPO light, it gets their attention), and was so intent on looking at his console trying to figure out what was going on that he simply did not see Pink barreling down on him. I suppose it's also possible that the Concourse station didn't have power at the time, preventing Purple from leaving, but I rather doubt that was the case.

Why would Central clear a train into an occupied station? Inattention, most likely. As I said, I'd heard that Central was not at the console at the time of the accident. IMO, if this is the case, it's the root cause of the accident and whoever was Central should be strung up.

if thats the case. there should be an investigation on how things are run on the monrail. that is inexcuseable to run the monrail system that way. there should always be a person on the leading end of the monrail to be the eyes and ears of the monrail operator.
 

wow, what horrible news. I've been unplugged most of the weekend and log in to this awful news. ugh. prayers go out to his family and friends.
 
Okay, now that the new details have come out, I feel pretty horrible about my previous statement. With all of the previous train accidents as of late, I could not help but think the deceased driver was at fault, but that is not the case according to the Mice Age poster. I definitely feel for that other driver who backed into the other monorail. What an awful thing to have on your conscience, even if it wasn't his fault. Those folks in the tower should be fired, if not worse.

Also, I did watch the video, mostly out of morbid curiosity. It broke my heart, but also showed the great heart of those guests who chose to stay and help. I was also cheering for that cast member who did not let the man with the camera continue. One minute was enough. I do feel bad for those kids, though. I hope this does not give them traumatic memories of Disney in the future.
 
This is terrible news. I feel for both drivers regardless of how it turns out. Accidents happen and while any death because of them are a tragedy I always hope that something is learned from them so that we are all safer in the future.

I don't see any reason not to publish the video. This is the age of citizen journalism and it is what happens. I love being able to see the raw coverage without the filter of the main stream press regardless of whether the story is of triumph or tragedy.
 
I'm not trying to get down on anyone or pick any fights...I just don't understand why in those situations your instincts tell you to tape the tragedy rather than run to help, regardless of the actual extent to which you can help. My camera would have gone flying and my but would have been on top of that monorail trying to help. Or if you cant be of any help...it is uneccessary to whip out the camera. As far as posting the link...I'm sure that the poster was only trying to inform all of us, and I totally understand that, it's just too much information in my opinion, however I have not actually watched it.

I think, without watching the video, it is very hard to comment on the behaviour of others. He wasn't the only person there, a CM was trying to deal with it, as were a few other members of the public. He could not of helped and from reports they had to torch their way in, so more than just brute strength was needed.
 
This is so tragic. My husband heard about this while surfing and I couldn't believe it. My heart goes out to Austin's family and whomever made the error that caused this.

That being said we will definitely be riding in the front again if Disney allows it. I'm certain that from this accident forward they will be more safe than ever.
 
I think it's the little boy's voice but he keeps asking his daddy something over and over again. I can't quite get what he's asking, but his voice sounds so panicked. It gave me chills. Those poor kids......
 
We've just checked out of the Poly this morning at about 10:30. We got home around 3:00 to hear a relative of ours tell us about the accident. We feel so aweful!! Nothing was mentioned this morning by any cast members about what happened. They must have all been told to not talk to guests about the accident. We did notice a monorail 'stalled' near the loading area above us as we walked out the door to the parking lot. I didn't think anything about it, but it was on the express track, come to think of it. The parks were open so late last night because of the 4th of July. That poor family. Our hearts and many prayers go out to the young men involved in the accident as well as the family.
 
I do not know the whole story of what happened. I will let Disney do the full investigation.

I am very sad for all involved and their families.
 
if thats the case. there should be an investigation on how things are run on the monrail. that is inexcuseable to run the monrail system that way. there should always be a person on the leading end of the monrail to be the eyes and ears of the monrail operator.

If you are mid-beam and need to reverse somewhere, that would not be possible as you can't get to the other cabin internally within the train.

The reversing theory would fit in with the video too, with people not actually knowing whether the pilot was in the cab of the stationary monorail at the time of the collision.

Andre
 
If you are mid-beam and need to reverse somewhere, that would not be possible as you can't get to the other cabin internally within the train.

The reversing theory would fit in with the video too, with people not actually knowing whether the pilot was in the cab of the stationary monorail at the time of the collision.

Andre

We all know you can't get to other cabin. but if they were going to do this move, someone should of got on the other end at the last stop. remember safety first that what i'm taught at work.
 
Just plain awful. Gives me chills. Lets please take this time to remember a cast member that has led us to our dreams and filled are hearts with joy and fun. God bless x

Could not have said it any better myself.
Blessings to all involved and especially to Austin's family.
 
We all know you can't get to other cabin. but if they were going to do this move, someone should of got on the other end at the last stop. remember safety first that what i'm taught at work.

Or install cameras... Many cars have back up cameras.. why can't the monarail?!?

That being said we can speculate all we want but I feel so horriable for the driver who lost his life along with his family and friends but also for his coworkers who were working that night and could not help him. May they all find Peace :grouphug:
 
Whoever or whatever fault or malfunction,at the end of the day it doesn't really matter right now.

A young life was lost.

Concentrate on that.

Our thoughts and prayers go out to those who are grieving and hurting.
 
My thoughts and prayers go out to Austin's family and for all the others involved in this tragic accident.

:grouphug:
 
OMG! We've been out of town for the Fourth, and basically away from news, so I just read this on the internet and came straight to the Disboards because I knew there would be a thread on it. I haven't had time to read through all of them, but I wanted to add my thoughts and prayers for Austins family, friends and co-workers. Very tragic.
 












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