Boycotting the Oscars

[BlovesC]

Viola Davis said it best: "You can't win awards for roles that don't exist."

 

[MickeySP]

Creed, great movie, great performance by Michael B Jordan, black actor, black director, not nominated. Sky Stallone was for his role, though.

Beasts of No Nation, Idris Elba, Cary Fukanaga... No nomination.

Straight Outta Compton... Black director, black actors, music created by great black musicians... Not nominated

Funny I have seen all 3 plus most of the nominated and sorry but those 3 just didn't beat in any category.

By far the best performance was Leo & Relevant was by far the vest.

4th why don't the ULTRA rich actors/producers make more films? You named 3 out of the 100's released in 2015

http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/year/2015

 

[MickeySP]

Not racist towards white people. Prejudiced, but not racist.

Just because one person in one movie said it doesn't make it true. Laughable & delusional

You know I am done with this, until these actors do something proactive - sit down & shut up!

 

[Gumbo4x4]

Did I read that Mad Max was nominated for Best Picture? If you ask me, that is the biggest travesty right there!

The Matrix won more Oscars than Apocalypse Now

 

[kaytieeldr]

I'd like more clarification if you don't mind. Race relations might have a lot to do with the lack of representation at the Oscars so I'm not clear on where the line is.

From Wikipedia "In late December ballots and copies of the Reminder List of Eligible Releases are mailed to around 6,000 active members. For most categories, members from each of the branches vote to determine the nominees only in their respective categories (i.e. only directors vote for directors, writers for writers, actors for actors, etc.). In all major categories, voters use an instant run-off voting ballot, with potential nominees rewarded in the single transferable vote tally for having strong supporters who rank them first.[35] There are some exceptions in the case of certain categories, like Foreign Film, Documentary and Animated Feature Film, in which movies are selected by special screening committees made up of members from all branches. In the special case of Best Picture, all voting members are eligible to select the nominees for that category. Foreign films must include English subtitles, and each country can submit only one film per year.[36]"

From http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/academy-tweaks-a-number-rules-715459
" For the first time, there is a limit to the number of actors that can be submitted for each film, although it remains a fairly generous one. Under the new rule, studios and production companies may submit a maximum of 10 actors and 10 actresses for each movie, submitting their names on the Academy's official screen credits (OSC) form. Previously, the studios were free to submit a movie's entire cast list.

The change was made in order to reduce the length of the reminder list of eligible releases that is given to each Academy member before the nomination process begins. The actors and actresses for each film will also be listed separately to avoid any confusion when it comes to sexually ambiguous names."

On the official Academy Awards site, http://www.oscars.org/oscars/rules-eligibility you can download the reminder list of ALL the actors and actresses submitted for consideration. There are probably hundreds.

 

[PrincessAbi]

Just because one person in one movie said it doesn't make it true. Laughable & delusional

You know I am done with this, until these actors do something proactive - sit down & shut up!

I was just reiterating a point in a movie I agree with. Many people (many with degrees in African American Studies and Sociology) have written on this topic and agree with it. My opinion is my opinion

I thought Michael B Jordan was outstanding.

One of the best, if not the best, television shows of all time called The Wire was never nominated for a major award. The majority of the cast was black. And, the showrunners were told that they needed to add more white people to the show because they didn't want to lose viewers. This show is on the top list of every "Best TV Shows Ever" list. Incredible show, ahead of its time, full of racially diverse characters. Snubbed from all major awards. This is a real issue.

And again, just because someone has money, doesn't exempt them from persecution. Sure, they might not have it as hard, but the persecution and prejudice STILL exist.

 

[CPanther95]

I was just reiterating a point in a movie I agree with. Many people (many with degrees in African American Studies and Sociology) have written on this topic and agree with it. My opinion is my opinion

I thought Michael B Jordan was outstanding.

One of the best, if not the best, television shows of all time called The Wire was never nominated for a major award. The majority of the cast was black. And, the showrunners were told that they needed to add more white people to the show because they didn't want to lose viewers. This show is on the top list of every "Best TV Shows Ever" list. Incredible show, ahead of its time, full of racially diverse characters. Snubbed from all major awards. This is a real issue.

And again, just because someone has money, doesn't exempt them from persecution. Sure, they might not have it as hard, but the persecution and prejudice STILL exist.

The Wire wasn't fully appreciated until it was gone. We were lucky HBO kept it on as long as they did.

I could see making a case for Lester, Bubbles, Col. Daniels, and Stringer Bell for best actor regardless of what the competition was those years.

 

[JoeA]

I was just reiterating a point in a movie I agree with. Many people (many with degrees in African American Studies and Sociology) have written on this topic and agree with it. My opinion is my opinion

I thought Michael B Jordan was outstanding.

One of the best, if not the best, television shows of all time called The Wire was never nominated for a major award. The majority of the cast was black. And, the showrunners were told that they needed to add more white people to the show because they didn't want to lose viewers. This show is on the top list of every "Best TV Shows Ever" list. Incredible show, ahead of its time, full of racially diverse characters. Snubbed from all major awards. This is a real issue.

And again, just because someone has money, doesn't exempt them from persecution. Sure, they might not have it as hard, but the persecution and prejudice STILL exist.

I'm not trying to be mean or pick on you but you do realize that you thinking he was outstanding doesn't make it an injustice because he wasn't nominated, right? From what (little) I read most people don't think he was slighted for not being nominated. Being good v. being one of the best in a field that is limited are two vastly different things and it certainly doesn't mean he was "persecuted" by a long stretch.

 

[asta]

One of the best, if not the best, television shows of all time called The Wire was never nominated for a major award. The majority of the cast was black. And, the showrunners were told that they needed to add more white people to the show because they didn't want to lose viewers. This show is on the top list of every "Best TV Shows Ever" list. Incredible show, ahead of its time, full of racially diverse characters. Snubbed from all major awards. This is a real issue.
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Funny that you should mention this. The people filming the show Nashville have been told they need to add black people to the show in order to stay on the air. Published calls for extras have mentioned the need for minority people. I am not saying that this show is thought as highly as The Wire but we are kind of fond of it around here.

 

[PrincessAbi]

I'm not trying to be mean or pick on you but you do realize that you thinking he was outstanding doesn't make it an injustice because he wasn't nominated, right? From what (little) I read most people don't think he was slighted for not being nominated. Being good v. being one of the best in a field that is limited are two vastly different things and it certainly doesn't mean he was "persecuted" by a long stretch.

Ok, so what about Idris Elba, or SLJ? Both great performances, critically acclaimed.

 

[JoeA]

Ok, so what about Idris Elba, or SLJ? Both great performances, critically acclaimed.

I honestly haven't seen any of these movies.

I think SLJ's problem is he's a bit of a type cast. You (maybe somebody else???) posted a list of all the various roles he's played but IMO they're all the same dude with a different name and costume for the most part. Don't get me wrong - he's good but the best at his craft? Not by a long shot.

I judge an actor on if he/she can make me forget its the actor I'm watching and immerse me in the character. For example, I think Stallone becomes Rocky but I always know it's SLJ I'm watching.

Does that make sense?

 

[AnnaFloridaLover]

I honestly haven't seen any of these movies.

I think SLJ's problem is he's a bit of a type cast. You (maybe somebody else???) posted a list of all the various roles he's played but IMO they're all the same dude with a different name and costume for the most part. Don't get me wrong - he's good but the best at his craft? Not by a long shot.

I judge an actor on if he/she can make me forget its the actor I'm watching and immerse me in the character. For example, I think Stallone becomes Rocky but I always know it's SLJ I'm watching.

Does that make sense?

It does to me. Like Jennifer Aniston is always Rachel from Friends, despite her effort in Cake.

 

[SydSim]

I really enjoy the casting in How To Get Away With Murder. Yes the main characters are diverse, but the day players (actors cast for just one day or episode) are extremely diverse. Race/ethnicity isn't the focal point. There just happen to be so many people of color doing "regular" stuff, proving that there can be successful colorblind casting. (Well actually it isn't really colorblind casting because I do believe that Shonda Rhimes has stated that she wanted more people of color in her shows).

When the casting calls for a judge, it can be an AA woman and it's no big deal. Rich adopted children? Asian woman and AA man.

 

[PollyannaMom]

It'd be nice if we could all just get over it and stop dividing ourselves like this. It's getting harder and harder to raise your child not to see people for what's on the outside when it's constantly thrown in our faces.

So true!! These problems are not going to go away until we let them.

I haven't seen the movies in question, so I have no personal opinion about who should have been nominated or who shouldn't have, but if someone was left off the list, we need to argue that a deserving person was left off the list - not that a black person was left off the list, not that an Asian person was left off the list, but that an individual was left off the list. The argument has to be about merit, or the award will stop being about merit at all.

I also think that the best start to fix this is having it NOT be about minority movies or roles but that "regular" movies need to be cast with a wide variety of people in them. That's the only way to appeal to a wide variety of the population.

This is exactly it. We can't just have white movies and black movies. Certainly there are going to be some movies that end up that way because of their settings, but if we really want our children to grow up believing that white people and black people get along and do things together, then we have to show them some examples of that too.

 

[MickeySP]

I was just reiterating a point in a movie I agree with. Many people (many with degrees in African American Studies and Sociology) have written on this topic and agree with it. My opinion is my opinion

I thought Michael B Jordan was outstanding.

One of the best, if not the best, television shows of all time called The Wire was never nominated for a major award. The majority of the cast was black. And, the showrunners were told that they needed to add more white people to the show because they didn't want to lose viewers. This show is on the top list of every "Best TV Shows Ever" list. Incredible show, ahead of its time, full of racially diverse characters. Snubbed from all major awards. This is a real issue.

And again, just because someone has money, doesn't exempt them from persecution. Sure, they might not have it as hard, but the persecution and prejudice STILL exist.

Omg now Will Smith is persecuted, the delusion continues. I think the others are right the ignore button is a wonderful thing, exit stage left Troll on

 

[kilroy1966]

I always boycott the Oscars. Snooze.

 

[AustinTink]

One of the best, if not the best, television shows of all time called The Wire was never nominated for a major award. The majority of the cast was black. And, the showrunners were told that they needed to add more white people to the show because they didn't want to lose viewers. This show is on the top list of every "Best TV Shows Ever" list. Incredible show, ahead of its time, full of racially diverse characters. Snubbed from all major awards. This is a real issue.

It was nominated for two Emmy's and has 47 other nominations. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0306414/awards

 

[PrincessAbi]

It was nominated for two Emmy's and has 47 other nominations. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0306414/awards

A show with some of the best acting to ever be shown on television, and the Emmy's went to two white writers.

Sense a pattern here?

 

[AustinTink]

I'm not trying to be mean or pick on you but you do realize that you thinking he was outstanding doesn't make it an injustice because he wasn't nominated, right? From what (little) I read most people don't think he was slighted for not being nominated. Being good v. being one of the best in a field that is limited are two vastly different things and it certainly doesn't mean he was "persecuted" by a long stretch.

He was solid but not outstanding. And I have a soft spot for him from his days as Reggie Montgomery on All My Children.

Leo DiCaprio in What's Eating Gilbert Grape, The Aviator and Wolf of Wall Street were all better performances than Michael B. Jordan in Creed. Leo didn't win an Academy award for any of them. And he wasn't even nominated for Titanic. Did he cry like a whiny baby and call for a boycott? Nope. You keep making quality films and maybe someday you get recognized.

 

[AustinTink]

A show with some of the best acting to ever be shown on television, and the Emmy's went to two white writers.

Sense a pattern here?

I've heard a whole lot of actors say they would be nothing without the words that were written for them.