Borrowing restriction removed

[CarolMN]

Just tried borrowing for our Aulani trip and I’m still getting the 7 dwarfs. Anyone else?

Clear your cookies and cache and restart your device/browser. Or try incognito. If that doesn't work, you'll have to call MS and ask for technical assistance. Good luck!

 

[RapunzelRN]

Just tried borrowing for our Aulani trip and I’m still getting the 7 dwarfs. Anyone else?

SAME. We are screwed forever apparently

 

[Genie+]

Does this also mean the borrowing glitch (only affected some owners) is a thing of the past?

 

[BamaGuy44]

Clear your cookies and cache and restart your device/browser. Or try incognito. If that doesn't work, you'll have to call MS and ask for technical assistance. Good luck!

Is there a way to test this without actually borrowing the points? Like make a booking but not confirm at the very end? Not planning to borrow but I'm curious if I would still get glitched lol

 

[LadybugsMum]

Does this also mean the borrowing glitch (only affected some owners) is a thing of the past?

Hopefully, but it's Disney IT.

 

[wnielsen1]

Apparently, Disney pouring in a couple million points (or more) worth of availability at VGF2 helped with the points glut.

 

[AnnaKristoff2013]

Has anyone who is resale and was getting the borrowing glitch tried borrowing to see if the glitch is fixed?

 

[AnnaKristoff2013]

SAME. We are screwed forever apparently

Since they clearly are never fixing it I think it is time to start considering a lawsuit. I can only conclude at this point that this is an intentional act by Disney to give booking priority at 11 months to direct owners over resale owners, since they can borrow online and we cannot. They have known about this issue for 2 years now.

 

[CarolMN]

Is there a way to test this without actually borrowing the points? Like make a booking but not confirm at the very end? Not planning to borrow but I'm curious if I would still get glitched lol

No idea, sorry. I've never borrowed anywhere near all of a subsequent use year's points. Maybe @Sandisw knows.

Our contracts are both direct, same Membership and truthfully, I've not encountered any website glitches that didn't affect everyone. I suspect one membership accounts are the least likely to experience website issues and it's one of the reasons, I advise against multip!e memberships for all but the most experienced DVC members who visit the DIS on a fair!y regular basis (to keep up with the ever-changing issues).

 

[BamaGuy44]

Since they clearly are never fixing it I think it is time to start considering a lawsuit. I can only conclude at this point that this is an intentional act by Disney to give booking priority at 11 months to direct owners over resale owners, since they can borrow online and we cannot. They have known about this issue for 2 years now.

If it were intentional, I would think it would affect all resale members, not just some. Like the old saying goes, "Never attribute malice to that which can be more easily explained by incompetence."

I also don't see much upside for them to provide a subtle secret way of giving direct members an edge in booking online. Not really a selling point if people don't know about the edge until they've already bought. I'm sure there are a few super savvy buyers who frequented these boards before buying or whatever, but that percentage would be tiny.

All direct advantages are made clear and obvious by Disney, they basically hit us over the head with them.

 

[TCRAIG]

So who's modifying right now? I'm ready to.

Also, I'd like to hear from people that had trouble borrowing points on the website, if this fixes that crashing issue.

I already added an extra night to a May trip with my >50% points at 4:15am this morning!!

 

[Stargazer65]

I already added an extra night to a May trip with my >50% points at 4:15am this morning!!

Wow, you were all over it. I didn't even know about it until almost 9:00. But I added two nights since then.

 

[DVChris]

Clear your cookies and cache and restart your device/browser. Or try incognito. If that doesn't work, you'll have to call MS and ask for technical assistance. Good luck!

I cleared cookies and deleted history but I'm still getting the dwarfs... I'm a direct member with both direct and resale points. Trying to borrow from my resale subsidized Aulani. I'll call MS, hopefully they can fix the issue.

 

[TCRAIG]

Wow, you were all over it. I didn't even know about it until almost 9:00. But I added two nights since then.

I’m actually at WDW (BLT) and woke up at 4am - waited a few minutes and then saw that the 50% warning wasn’t there - rebooted and looked again - and the limit message showed but figured - why not - lemme try - and voila - was able to borrow >50%.

 

[sndral]

If it were intentional, I would think it would affect all resale members, not just some. Like the old saying goes, "Never attribute malice to that which can be more easily explained by incompetence."

I also don't see much upside for them to provide a subtle secret way of giving direct members an edge in booking online. Not really a selling point if people don't know about the edge until they've already bought. I'm sure there are a few super savvy buyers who frequented these boards before buying or whatever, but that percentage would be tiny.

All direct advantages are made clear and obvious by Disney, they basically hit us over the head with them.

Intentional or negligent or basic incompetence doesn’t really matter - the POS clearly states it’s a first come/first served system & IMO the borrowing glitch is depriving some members of what DVC says they are entitled to.
Saw the email this morning, this really helps w/ my planned extended family vacation for 2024, I’ve always wanted to stay in a GV!

 

[BamaGuy44]

Intentional or negligent or basic incompetence doesn’t really matter - the POS clearly states it’s a first come/first served system & IMO the borrowing glitch is depriving some members of what DVC says they are entitled to.
Saw the email this morning, this really helps w/ my planned extended family vacation for 2024, I’ve always wanted to stay in a GV!

Cool, except I was responding to the specific assertion that it was intentional. As to your point, the glitch sucks and they should fix it, but whether it somehow violates our contract or is legally actionable seems a stretch IMO, but IANAL and I don't even try to think like one.

 

[ML_LovesDisney]

So exciting! I wonder if this means the glut of points has filtered through

 

[AdamsMum]

I only have 125 pts and I feel your pain.

I doubt they will remove the park reservation system any time soon if at all.

Sadly I think you're right. One can dream though.

 

[SleeplessInTO]

I had the borrowing glitch previously. I was able to borrow 12 points myself online for a resale contract with no dwarves!

However — I did this before the maintenance happened on July 12. I did it the night of July 11 right before midnight. I had not been able to borrow on this contract previously.

 

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