Born Again Christians Thread-No Bashing please

[Saphire]

Hmm funny that wdwhound (and aidensmom) answered me, but the rest of your are ingoring my question.

I take that to mean that even though I have asked Jesus into my heart, that I live my life for him, that I am subject to hell.

Ouch, it does not mean that at all. There are many people asking questions on this thread and getting few or many responses. I have gotten no answers at all to some of my questions/thoughts. In your case, I didn't respond because I am not sure of the answer. I find the whole biblical divorce issue difficult to understand, especially in today's culture. (Is it the divorse issue you are speaking of?) I usually say nothing if I am not sure of how I feel. Sometimes silence doesn't mean what you presume it means, ok?

 

[Miss Jasmine]

Ouch, it does not mean that at all. There are many people asking questions on this thread and getting few or many responses. I have gotten no answers at all to some of my questions/thoughts. In your case, I didn't respond because I am not sure of the answer. I find the whole biblical divorce issue difficult to understand, especially in today's culture. (Is it the divorse issue you are speaking of?) I usually say nothing if I am not sure of how I feel. Sometimes silence doesn't mean what you presume it means, ok?

Yeah I know.

It's just something I struggle with since I know how most BAC's feel about homosexuals and being in a perpetual state of sin. There are other people (sanctioned by the government)who may be in the exact same situation like my example.

 

[luvthatduke]

Miss Jasmine, I was going to plead the 5th,
but now I'll just plead stupidity and refer you to Saphire's post,
which is pretty much what I would have answered
if my sorry excuse for a brain hadn't confused
your post re:divorce with the other one re:"Born Again."

Blessings!

Ouch, it does not mean that at all. There are many people asking questions on this thread and getting few or many responses. I have gotten no answers at all to some of my questions/thoughts. In your case, I didn't respond because I am not sure of the answer. I find the whole biblical divorce issue difficult to understand, especially in today's culture. (Is it the divorse issue you are speaking of?) I usually say nothing if I am not sure of how I feel. Sometimes silence doesn't mean what you presume it means, ok?

 

[cra-z-4-dizney]

I am not the one who is divorced, it is my DH.

Just trying to answer your question...this is what the bible says...If this happens(your husbands ex-wife divorced him), the mate that is left is not under any bondage to this marriage. He is free to remarry should the Lord lead him to do so.

So basically if your husbands ex-wife left him then he is free to marry you and it is not a sin, but if he left her then he is still bonded to her. I hope this makes sense.

 

[Albertan mom]

Miss J,
You needed get so offended! Like others have said, sometimes topics get changed. Nobody answered my question about the Amish, I am not going to get upset about it.

And yes, I will admit, I just ignored the question, and thought I would let others answer it. Because I just didn't want to get into it on such a busy day. (sick kids)

My mom is divorced and re-married to a Christian man (who was a widower when they met). No, I don't think she is going to hell! My mom left my dad because he was a drunken cheating neglective man. So I think she should have left him.

My dad remarried to an athiest woman. They have been married 8 years, and split up this summer. He was a PK, but has never lived like a Christian. Do I think he is going to hell? I don't know. I hope not!

I dont' know you, or your situation. I don't know why your hubby got divorced, so it is really not my place to give an opinion on your question. It is between you and God. Period. Thats it.

I think God forgives and FORGETS our sins. I wish we could all do that. To each other, and mostly to ourselves.....

Just because we don't answer you right away doesn't mean we are being mean to you, or critical or judgemental!

 

[Miss Jasmine]

Miss J,


Just because we don't answer you right away doesn't mean we are being mean to you, or critical or judgemental!

Thank you for your answer but that wasn't my point. My point is that according to the bible I may be in perpetual sin, just like those in homosexual relatioships. Yet I was able to marry. Perhaps what I posted will make people think.

 

[pogopossum]

I am born again, have been for nearly forty years, i have also sinned and am far from perfect, just forgiven. thank you, Jesus. i have done my share of breaking commandments, but the only question still remains who do you believe Jesus was and what do you do with that? for me the only thing to do is accept his free gift of salvation and follow his word, and when i sin i seek forgiveness. i also pray for those that i know are sinning, that they would seek Jesus and forgiveness and repent of their unrighteousness. this includes heterosexual as well as homosexual people. God draws no distinction and neither do i. do i confromt them, no, and maybe i should, but i feel that i am here to share with those that are seeking, not try to force them to seek. "the fields are white with harvest, and the laborers few." i try to do what Jesus did, he told people what their sin was and told them to stop doing it, see the woman at the well, but i will not go looking for fights. as far as marriage and divorce, my dw was married for six months before they separated, we started dating and living together before her divorce, we don't condone these acts and have sought God's forgiveness, in fact my dw wasn't saved before we were married and we both believe that God can redeem any life.

we also watch des hw, and i happen to think that monty python's the life of brian is very funny and full of many truths that the pious are uncomfortable with. and i think that there are just as many of the pious set in the non christian camp as well.

i guess that what i am ultimately saying is there is no sin too big to keep you from the love of God and no sin big enough to take you out of his hands once you are there.

 

[Aidensmom]

I am born again, have been for nearly forty years, i have also sinned and am far from perfect, just forgiven. thank you, Jesus. i have done my share of breaking commandments, but the only question still remains who do you believe Jesus was and what do you do with that? for me the only thing to do is accept his free gift of salvation and follow his word, and when i sin i seek forgiveness. i also pray for those that i know are sinning, that they would seek Jesus and forgiveness and repent of their unrighteousness. this includes heterosexual as well as homosexual people. God draws no distinction and neither do i. do i confromt them, no, and maybe i should, but i feel that i am here to share with those that are seeking, not try to force them to seek. "the fields are white with harvest, and the laborers few." i try to do what Jesus did, he told people what their sin was and told them to stop doing it, see the woman at the well, but i will not go looking for fights. as far as marriage and divorce, my dw was married for six months before they separated, we started dating and living together before her divorce, we don't condone these acts and have sought God's forgiveness, in fact my dw wasn't saved before we were married and we both believe that God can redeem any life.

we also watch des hw, and i happen to think that monty python's the life of brian is very funny and full of many truths that the pious are uncomfortable with. and i think that there are just as many of the pious set in the non christian camp as well.

i guess that what i am ultimately saying is there is no sin too big to keep you from the love of God and no sin big enough to take you out of his hands once you are there.

Thanks. We all need that reminder sometimes.

 

[Miss Jasmine]

i guess that what i am ultimately saying is there is no sin too big to keep you from the love of God and no sin big enough to take you out of his hands once you are there.

Oh I soooo agree.

I think I am being hypersensative on this board tonight. I have my reasons.

 

[cra-z-4-dizney]

I am born again, have been for nearly forty years, i have also sinned and am far from perfect, just forgiven. thank you, Jesus. i have done my share of breaking commandments, but the only question still remains who do you believe Jesus was and what do you do with that? for me the only thing to do is accept his free gift of salvation and follow his word, and when i sin i seek forgiveness. i also pray for those that i know are sinning, that they would seek Jesus and forgiveness and repent of their unrighteousness. this includes heterosexual as well as homosexual people. God draws no distinction and neither do i. do i confromt them, no, and maybe i should, but i feel that i am here to share with those that are seeking, not try to force them to seek. "the fields are white with harvest, and the laborers few." i try to do what Jesus did, he told people what their sin was and told them to stop doing it, see the woman at the well, but i will not go looking for fights. as far as marriage and divorce, my dw was married for six months before they separated, we started dating and living together before her divorce, we don't condone these acts and have sought God's forgiveness, in fact my dw wasn't saved before we were married and we both believe that God can redeem any life.

we also watch des hw, and i happen to think that monty python's the life of brian is very funny and full of many truths that the pious are uncomfortable with. and i think that there are just as many of the pious set in the non christian camp as well.

i guess that what i am ultimately saying is there is no sin too big to keep you from the love of God and no sin big enough to take you out of his hands once you are there.

All I can say to this one is WOW. What a great post.

 

[donnajon]

[Again I throw out this question (because it never seems to get answered). Am I in perpetual sin (according to the Bible) because I am married to a man who is divorced (thus involved in an adulterous relationship per God's word)?


I'm new to this thread but I'll try to answer this question. I say no, you are not in perpetual sin. According to the scripture, "For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God." Romans 3:23 and "For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all." So, even if someone only sins once (which isn't going to happen) in their entire life, they are a sinner. However, God forgives us from our sins. Isaiah 53:6 says, "All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned, every one, to his own way; and the Lord has laid on Him (Jesus) the iniquity of us all." and Romans 5:9 says, "Much more then, having now been justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through Him." i.e. God said that I, a guilty sinner, am no longer guilty because Christ died for me.
I, too am married to a divorced man. However, he has asked forgiveness from that sin. Yes, divorce is a sin. But God forgives all sin. And Jesus died on the cross for me because I am unable to live a sinless life. I ask forgivess and go on, doing my best for the Lord.
As for the homosexuality debate, I like to think of what Billy Graham once said to a reporter who asked him what he would do if one of his children were a homosexual. He replied, "Love the sinner, hate the sin." Emphases being on Love.

 

[Albertan mom]

As for the homosexuality debate, I like to think of what Billy Graham once said to a reporter who asked him what he would do if one of his children were a homosexual. He replied, "Love the sinner, hate the sin." Emphases being on Love.

Well said.

You too pogopossum.

I am just happy that my sins have been forgiven. Because there was many before I was born again-and there was many after. Thank the Lord for grace and mercy!

Good night all.

 

[acrucifer]

Thank you for your answer but that wasn't my point. My point is that according to the bible I may be in perpetual sin, just like those in homosexual relatioships. Yet I was able to marry. Perhaps what I posted will make people think.

the bible says what it says. if you are no longer bonded to your husband as a previous poster has pointed out, then you are not in that state of sin. you seem intent on comparing your self to homosexuals so I will address that, their state of sin ends when they repent and become celibate, IMHO as I see it in the KJV.

 

[acrucifer]

I agree.

I also didn't throw out the "Christian right" as a slam agianst the people here. It's the people who identify themselves that way and have made gay issues part of their platform.

but, as born again christians, the christian right are welcome here as this thread is for them also. natually, they are also entitled to their opinions and religous/political views just like anyone else here. flaming them or getting offended and protesting wont change any of that. so relax. let it go.

 

[acrucifer]

One of the best things about this thread is that it has helped to evaporate the myth that all Born Again Christians are members of the religious right. There is greater diversity in beliefs among conservative Christians than most people realize. I think that the exposure of diversity among supposedly "single minded" groups is a good thing.

as born again christian , that religous right you speak of are also welcomed here just like anyone else. in fact, I wish some would feel comfortable enough to identify themselves, but after these posts, I dont see that happening.

 

[treesinger]

People can post on whatever thread they wish. I post on the Godless Heathen thread and no one has EVER made me feel unwelcome. The same can't be said about this thread.

Does the homosexuality debate get old? Yes. But I have to agree with Cardaway because it is often us Christians who keep making such a big deal about it.

Again I throw out this question (because it never seems to get answered). Am I in perpetual sin (according to the Bible) because I am married to a man who is divorced (thus involved in an adulterous relationship per God's word)?

Sheesh, I always seem to get involved in these debates.

I was posting on the "heathen" board and was *nicely* booted. A few of them took exception to me giving a Christian point of view and said it was more appropriate to bring that over here if I wish, but not on the heathen board. I agreed with them.

Yes Cardaway, both sides are doing it. But we have to hold ourselves up as our own best examples. Stooping to the level of others is hardly the best example.

 

[treesinger]

Me too! Watching it is not going to cause me to want to follow the characters examples. And I'd watch it with Jesus on the couch next to me, bet he'd be laughing his butt off at some of that ridiculousness.

I'm sure Jesus has a sense of humor, but I doubt that an hour full of random sins is funny to him.

 

[ead79]

Miss Jasmine, I’m not really well versed when it comes to the issue of divorce and remarriage in the Bible, so I can’t really comment on that. However, one thing is clear—accepting Christ as Savior results in the forgiveness of all our sins. So I don’t see how you being married to a divorced man is any different from me having dishonored my parents in the past. All are sins, and all are forgiven through the blood of Christ.

 

[lmhall2000]

Miss Jasmine...when I feel too ignorant to find the words to express what I feel I turn to Google! Well, actually I turn to God first>> But, I just now read your question and it's a tough one to answer in our own words because you really need to turn to scripture..and for those of us who haven't faced that dilemma we don't know right off the top of our head where to show an answer...but I did find a great website that really puts this into perspective, I think it will help you answer that question....
http://www.divorcehope.com/christiandivorceandremarriage.htm

I just typed in your question on Google and oila..found that great site....hope it helps!
Tara

 

[auntpolly]

Hey you guys! In the thread about, "I don't care" -- does anyone disagree that Jesus wouldn't want us to be so hateful about the Qu'ran and Islam, even terrorists? Sorry to bug you guys -- just reaching out to Christians to help me out here.

It got awfully quiet over there when I posted about loving your enemies - Luke 6:27-36

[27] "But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, [28] bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. [29] If someone strikes you on one cheek, turn to him the other also. If someone takes your cloak, do not stop him from taking your tunic. [30] Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back. [31] Do to others as you would have them do to you.

[32] "If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even 'sinners' love those who love them. [33] And if you do good to those who are good to you, what credit is that to you? Even 'sinners' do that. [34] And if you lend to those from whom you expect repayment, what credit is that to you? Even 'sinners' lend to 'sinners,' expecting to be repaid in full. [35] But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked. [36] Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful to you.