Bizarre ? but we are puzzled

[PinkRhombus]

I am not diagnosing anyone, I said it may be nothing.

You also said "sounds a little like Autism Spectrum disorder maybe Aspergers syndrome."

Way to scare the heck out of someone.

Autism symptoms don't usually show up on a 9 month old, and Aspergers is much later, around 3.

So, yeah, you shouldn't go jumping in with comments like that.



To the OP: Did they clean their carpets recently? Do they use any type of carpet powder?

 

[plummer925]

I am not diagnosing anyone, I said it may be nothing.

I agree children are over diagnosed and put on way too many meds!

She asked and I answered, having had a patient with similar symptoms, Autism is better diagnosed early than late.

I truly hope that it is just an allery, but if this were my son I would be concerned enough to want to elimate all the possibilities.

"Autistic children do not express interest in other people and often prefer to be alone. They may resist changes in their routine, repeat actions (e.g., turn in circles, flap their arms) over and over, and engage in self-injurious behavior (e.g., bite or scratch themselves, bang their head)."

the link was just to a autism site, here is another one:

http://www.neurologychannel.com/autism/symptoms.shtml

So keep your Sarcastic remarks to yourself.



ty, exactly my reaction.

You are SO way off here! Telling someone else SARCASTICALLY to keep their sarcastic remarks to themselves?! And that person wasn't even being sarcastic! SHEESH! YOU were out of line pulling up a disorder!

 

[surfergirl602]

I just re-read this and it brought back a memory of when my DD was a baby. She would jabber/babble a lot, forming some words. Other times, she would just be sitting or lying there wiggling around, playing and let out these SHRIEKS.... it was actually funny because you could see her gearing up for it. She would wiggle a little, take a deep breath and "eeeeeeeeaaaaaahhhhhh!" super, super loud.

There was nothing wrong with her ---- just trying to convey happiness, laughter, contentment or whatever.


Don't read too much into what babies/toddlers do. 99.9% of the time, they're just having fun.

we used to call our middle DD teakettle, because that's what she sounded like. She loved to hear herself scream!

 

[momejay]

It is hot is it Summer. Is the child wearing shoes?
Is the child walking in grass?
Maybe a grass allergy?
Were they hand-me-down shoes?
Maybe if the child is wearing shoes it is related to sweaty feet?
New carpet cleaner?
Maybe it's a learned behavior anyone else in the house have itchy feet?

We found out through eating hot dogs & corn on the cob more often in Summer that my son was allergic to yellow food dyes found in "artificial butter sprinkles" & mustard.

My son is autistic & we also found out he has an allergy to certain carpet cleaners. He would rub his face on the carpet to smell the scent of the cleaner & would get a rash from it.

 

[ma2jr]

I think he needs to consult a pediatrician. Poor thing can't be comfortable if he has the itchies.

 

[Teacher510]

I would definitely see the pediatrician but when I was 11 (a million years ago!) I returned to school after some viral thing and had excruciatingly itchy feet. I couldn't sleep and when sitting in school I would take my feet out of my shoes and rub them on the shoes. My mom made a baking soda paste in the middle of the night and that brought me relief. We never knew for sure what my problem was but my mom assumed it was part of the virus. Thank goodness for baking soda! PS the paste also takes out oil stains on clothing if you let it dry and brush it off.

 

[luvdzny]

People are so quick to 'diagnose' kids with ADD, ADHD, Autism and everything else these days!! I can guarantee you, about 90% of the "diagnosed" kids have absolutely NOTHING wrong with them except a parent/doctor looking for an easy excuse!

I guess DD better start looking for a new job then. She is a therapist for children with Autism. If 90% of the kids she works with do not have Autism then she will be out of a job.


NYCDiane:
Just out of curiosity, where did you get your facts from?

 

[semo233]

Okay everyone, take a deep breath. I think everyone agrees that if this has been going on for over a week, a trip to the pediatrician is in order.

Although I am not an Autism expert, I work extensively with children with autism and am also a family member of a child with autism. Even if a child has all the symptoms of anything on the autism scale, diagnosis is not made until after the age of 3. This is mostly due to the varying ages that kids develope at. Some children do exhibit symptoms from birth, others at as late as 3 years old.

OP, since you are the aunt, what does the mother say? Does she think this is a problem? Is the child pulling the hair out or just pulling? There is a difference between obsessive behavior and self injurous behavior and the pediatrician will need to know this.

 

[luvsmickeymouse]

Could be from what he wears on his feet, socks, sandels, sneakers. Cotton socks and good leather sneakers or sandels if he wears shoes yet. Keep his feet dry. Footed pajamas may be a problem too.

 

[Blue.Fairy2]

You are SO way off here! Telling someone else SARCASTICALLY to keep their sarcastic remarks to themselves?! And that person wasn't even being sarcastic! SHEESH! YOU were out of line pulling up a disorder!

actually her comment

. (gee, I wonder if I have Autism Spectrum disorder or Aspergers syndrome? I better get checked!)

was sarcastic, I was not being sarcastic.

Not going to hijack this thread it is not about me or attacking me.

OP asked for opinions and I gave mine.

Like I said before I hope it is something easily treated and the little guy is healthy and well.

All I have to say on this matter.

 

[vgrandy]

I didn't say ALL...... I said that docs/parents are much too quick to diagnose.... A child isn't reciting the Gettysburg Address by 10 months? OMG! He must be Autistic!! My 4 year old can't sit through a 90 minute movie without squirming around? ADD!
.

You didn't say all but you did say "90% of kids diagnosed with autism and ADHD had nothing wrong with them"
. That is very offensive to parents with special needs kids.

Autism is being diagnosed in kids as young as 2 but it isn't an easy process. Having a diagnosis that young means getting services started sooner and a better outcome for that child.

 

[semo233]

Autism is being diagnosed in kids as young as 2 but it isn't an easy process. Having a diagnosis that young means getting services started sooner and a better outcome for that child.

My experience is that diagnosis this early is rare (and sometimes not accurate), but your point about getting services is right on.

 

[vgrandy]

My experience is that diagnosis this early is rare (and sometimes not accurate), but your point about getting services is right on.

You are right. I work with birth-3 yr olds and we do advocate kids get evaluated and diagnosed prior to 3 when there are clearly issues. The wait lists for evals are often long and provisional diagnosis is no longer enough to get services. While it doesn't seem rare from my perspective, I work with special needs kids and my perspective is a bit skewed.

 

[NYCDiane]

You didn't say all but you did say "90% of kids diagnosed with autism and ADHD had nothing wrong with them"
. That is very offensive to parents with special needs kids.

.

Actually, what I said was: People are so quick to 'diagnose' kids with ADD, ADHD, Autism and everything else these days!! I can guarantee you, about 90% of the "diagnosed" kids have absolutely NOTHING wrong with them except a parent/doctor looking for an easy excuse

Okay, I may have exaggerated by saying 90% to make a point --- and my point is clearly defined in my post and a subsequent post that I made. My point was directed at the poster who automatically said the OP should look into autism or aspergers as a cause of an 8 month's old "issues", which is absolutely absurd if you read the OPs entire post and what she says about her nephew.

Why would it offend you if your child is "special needs". If you truly believe you have a "special needs" child and he has been diagnosed, receiving treatment, etc... then you have nothing to be offended about.

Now.... let's stop hijacking this thread. The OP's original question was:

This might not be the best place to post this, but thought someone might have some ideas.

My 8 month old nephew is constantly digging his feet together like they really itch, he makes them really red and sometimes scratches them with his toenails. What could possibly be wrong with them?

He also has started pulling his hair for no apparent reason (not all the time maybe 1-2 times a day we have saw him do it), and he screams out all the time. He is really intelligent has been trying to walk for over a month now, jabbering and speaking words to. I do know he is spoiled rotten so that could just be why he screams. What is your opinion? Do you think any of these things are related.



Can we PLEASE stay on topic, post our thoughts or contributions to THIS issue and stop with the hijacking and attacks?

Thank you.

 

[mckinley]

Thanks for all the replys, didn't mean to cause an uproar. We don't think that he has any sort of Autisim, Adhd or anything like that. I know there alot of cases more and more these days though. We just couldn't imagine why he would be digging his feet together. But he does have an allergy to certain baby lotions so that might have something to do with it. And he has pulled everyones hair for months so that could be that he did discover he had hair so he is pulling his own now. I was holding him today and he pulled my hair and then said bad bad bad. So he just inall is spoiled rotten and we all just worry to much.

 

[Blue.Fairy2]

Thanks for all the replys, didn't mean to cause an uproar. We don't think that he has any sort of Autisim, Adhd or anything like that. I know there alot of cases more and more these days though. We just couldn't imagine why he would be digging his feet together. But he does have an allergy to certain baby lotions so that might have something to do with it. And he has pulled everyones hair for months so that could be that he did discover he had hair so he is pulling his own now. I was holding him today and he pulled my hair and then said bad bad bad. So he just inall is spoiled rotten and we all just worry to much.

Glad to hear he is ok.

 

[disykat]

Can we PLEASE stay on topic, post our thoughts or contributions to THIS issue and stop with the hijacking and attacks?

Thank you.

Shall we assume that is an apology for starting the hijacking?

 

[terri01p]

Oh boy this brings back memories, my dd use to put out hand fulls of hair, it's a wonder she ever had any. And the screaming, yeah at first it was cute and then it became crazy, for about a year we thought I had given birth to some sort of animal. The feet thing sure does sound like allergies to me?????

 

[buzz5985]

You are right. I work with birth-3 yr olds and we do advocate kids get evaluated and diagnosed prior to 3 when there are clearly issues. The wait lists for evals are often long and provisional diagnosis is no longer enough to get services. While it doesn't seem rare from my perspective, I work with special needs kids and my perspective is a bit skewed.

My friends little boy was diagnosed with PDD at the age of 2 - he received early intervention.. Because of that early intervention he is now a thriving 12 yo that is in regular classrooms, plays football, has friends - still has some speech issues - but overall he is doing great. My friend was lucky to have a Pediatrician that was on the ball, and picked right up on her concerns. It also helps to live in a state like MA that recognizes early intervention - and not the wait and see what happens until 4th grade states.

 

[NYCDiane]

Shall we assume that is an apology for starting the hijacking?

No need to make an ASSumption, especially since it was not me who hijacked the thread. If you read the entire thread from the start, you will see I made a reply to the OP and to a subsequent poster. From there, it was all out "hijack" time on other posters' part.

No apologies from me.