Biggest Loser 2009 - Couples 2

[Ohiodislover]

When Helen came out with her gym clothes on I thought she looked way to thin and bony. Last night I saw her on QVC selling the Biggest Loser Cookbook and she didn't look as bad. She had regular clothes on and her arms were covered which I think made her look better. I think she went to extremes to lose all of that weight so she could win the money. I hope she gains a few pounds back because she will look healthy.

Her face looked much better too. Not so "dehydrated" looking.

 

[donnajon]

Well, it certainly worked. I do think Hellen is a villain on this one. and the editors can do all they want, but they still have to have the material to work with, and Helen provided that material. Still think she threw her daughter under the bus. Because at the table, her daughter was second guessing herself if it was the right decision.

But what about the other footage you didn't see? She may have spent the entire time that she came back whining and complaining that she didn't want to be there, that she wanted to go home. She may have said when they fell below the line, send me home, I don't want to be here. Then for a few minutes, second guessed herself and bam...that gets shown. And now everyone hates Helen for "throwing her daughter unter the bus." Just because you say something for a minute doesn't mean that is entirely how you feel. I think if even the editors are admitting they manipulated it, then you need to consider that it is coming from the person doing the manipulating. Now, I still think Helen was wrong for cookiegate but I also think that was the producer's fault. The runners should have been able to take 5 or 10 minutes off of their own time if they ate a cookie. Rather than gang up on someone else.

 

[MUFFYCAT]

But what about the other footage you didn't see? She may have spent the entire time that she came back whining and complaining that she didn't want to be there, that she wanted to go home. She may have said when they fell below the line, send me home, I don't want to be here. Then for a few minutes, second guessed herself and bam...that gets shown. And now everyone hates Helen for "throwing her daughter unter the bus." Just because you say something for a minute doesn't mean that is entirely how you feel. I think if even the editors are admitting they manipulated it, then you need to consider that it is coming from the person doing the manipulating. Now, I still think Helen was wrong for cookiegate but I also think that was the producer's fault. The runners should have been able to take 5 or 10 minutes off of their own time if they ate a cookie. Rather than gang up on someone else.

That's when Helen as her mother should have persuaded her stay. Just as Laura told Tara she should stay because they signed up to make themselves healthier.
The DD said she wanted to go home at one time and Helen took the easy, selfish route and went along with it instead of telling her to stay.

I think the others at that time thought the mother should go.

 

[donnajon]

That's when Helen as her mother should have persuaded her stay. Just as Laura told Tara she should stay because they signed up to make themselves healthier.
The DD said she wanted to go home at one time and Helen took the easy, selfish route and went along with it instead of telling her to stay.

I think the others at that time thought the mother should go.

I'm just playing devils advocate because I wasn't there but how do you know that that didn't hapen? How do we know that Helen didn't beg her to let her go home and have DD stay? Her daughter is a grown woman and maybe she just whined over and over about how much she hated it there, and Helen really wanted to stay. If my kid was talking about how much she really wanted to go home and hated it there and I wanted to stay, I would stay. And I don't see that as being a bad mother. I just think ot is harsh to say that helen took the easy, selfish route instead of telling her to stay when we don't know what happened. For all we know, Shannon never wanted to go on the show and it was Helen's dream. Shannon only went along to help her mom achieve her dream. I don't know what the details of what happened but we have an editor admitting of film that Shannon really wanted to go home badly and Helen wanted to stay and the editor admits to saying they made Helen look like the villian. I just don't see her as being selfish.

 

[robinb]

donnajon, I agree with you. I never jumped on the "Helen is an awful mom!" bandwagon because Shanon went home instead of her. If Shanon didn't want to be there and Helen did there was no reason for Shanon to stay! That doesn't mean that I like Helen be any means. I *do* think that Helen was a snot because she ate the cookie against Tara (costing her $10K) and I also didn't like how she tried to bargain with Tara to have her give in on one of the last challenges and offered to split the money with her and *then* said on camera that she really could have used the extra pound at the weigh-in. That indicated to me that she would have gone against her word to Tara and taken the pound instead of the money.

 

[momrek06]

Good Saturday Morning, May 16, 2009....I put HELEN WINS in the title. I really think everyone has seen BL by know....do you all agree?

 

[robinb]

Good Saturday Morning, May 16, 2009....I put HELEN WINS in the title. I really think everyone has seen BL by know....do you all agree?

Since you just got flack for doing the same thing over on the Celebrity Apprentice thread I don't see why you feel the need to change the title at all. Sure, most people probably already saw the finale or know who won ... but why even take the *chance* of spoiling it for someone?

 

[momrek06]

Since you just got flack for doing the same thing over on the Celebrity Apprentice thread I don't see why you feel the need to change the title at all. Sure, most people probably already saw the finale or know who won ... but why even take the *chance* of spoiling it for someone?

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[robinb]

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[ClarabelleCowFan]

I made that mistake on Facebook and posted on my status after the show. My West Coast friends (not you, Kar!) SCREAMED!

I felt horrible for ruining it for them. I won't make that mistake again.

 

[robinb]

I just listened to Jillian's 5/17 podcast. She made some snarky comments about Jerry and how skinny he was and how he had starved himself. She said she was worried when he picked her up because she couldn't be sure when he last ate a meal . She also said that she thought that Helen was "too skinny". However, Jillian had Helen on the show for the last half hour, so that was all the snark we heard about Helen. The interview with Helen was pretty good. It addressed the Helen/Shannon question and Helen talked a lot about being in the show for herself. She did say that Shannon really wanted to go home and Jillian backed her up on that. They also talked about how parents (moms) really need to make time for themselves.

Jillian also talked about the start of the new season. I guess that the newbies are all on the ranch right after the finale. She said there was a woman who was 479 lbs and that everyone is going to HATE Jillian all week for what she does and says during the very first workout. I think it's going to be another "Laura" moment, KWIM? Spoiler here: She also said that Daniel will be returning to the ranch and that he's like the "expert" since he has already lost over 100 lbs. I'm happy to hear that he will return . End spoiler .

 

[of the seas]

So I guess that means that Jillian is returning---yay!

 

[Eeyores Butterfly]

That spoiler is wonderful news! Any chance they are adding Max to that?

 

[ClarabelleCowFan]

Thanks, Robin! I can't wait for the new season to air. Any idea when the premiere will be?

 

[MUFFYCAT]

Thanks Robin! I was really hoping that was going to happen!

 

[Laurabearz]

For those feening for another biggest loser I am highly addicted to BL Australia season 3 which is on You tube... ZERO commercials.

 

[CajunDixie]

So when does the new season start airing?

 

[The Mystery Machine]

They were running past BL on some channel with Rhea. I was not able to sit and watch it but it looked interesting. It was 2 restaurants competing.

 

[Disneyfn420]

Did everyone see this....makes me hate Filipe even more!!!

Biggest Loser Drug Scandal
By Deborah Starr Seiber May 28, 2009 01:04 PM EST


The Biggest Loser’s kick-*** trainer, Jillian Michaels, says that a blow-up she had with contestant Filipe Fa last season got so bad that it resulted in an internal drug investigation. “Filipe said, ‘I think Jillian is giving people drugs,’” Michaels tells TV Guide Magazine, with the unspecified drugs in question meant to help the members of her team lose weight faster. “We had an entire ‘Kenneth Starr’ investigation. Because the minute someone makes that claim, you have to. They didn’t shut down production, but it took a week. I was so furious, so disgusted. I felt so betrayed.”

According to both Michaels and Fa, the problem started when the NBC show pulled a switch during week eight and forced contestants to change trainers. Fa and his cousin, Sione Fa, had been working with trainer Bob Harper; now they would train with Michaels. “Filipe didn’t want to train with me,” says Michaels.

What aired on television was the big argument they had after Michaels, who heard the drug accusation off camera, refused to do a one-on-one workout with Fa during a team session. Says Michaels, “When he said, ‘You didn’t train me,” I said, ‘You’re damn right I didn’t train you!’ I literally couldn’t speak to him.”

Fa says he never made the accusation. “We had some issues, obviously, with us switching teams," he says. "There was never an accusation about her giving drugs.”

Wrong, says executive producer Mark Koops, who heard the accusation from the camera crews who follow the contestants. “The accusation came from Filipe,” he confirms.

Koops says the contestants are blood and urine-tested before and during the competition, mainly to make sure their systems stay in balance as they work out and lose weight, but also to insure overall fairness. The only pills contestants are allowed are multi-vitamins and caffeine pills to help them wake up and get through the day. Koops says those pills are only dispensed by the show’s team of medical professionals, not the trainers.

So when Fa’s drug charge came to his attention, Koops informed the players that the show would be bringing in a team of investigators “to make sure nothing untoward was happening.”

Nothing was. Fa says he and Michaels “smoothed things out” before he was voted off the show. Michaels says the incident has made her a better, stronger trainer. If it happened again? “It wouldn’t bother me at all,” she says.

 

[jenseib]

I actually heard this awhile back. But from what I heard there were drugs being given, but the ones given were allowed to be given as per the rules on the contract or something along those lines.