Biggest disappointment at WDW......

[DMRick]

I would rather see the tired folks push on to the bus rather than have
to wait 20, 30 or 40 mins. Waiting for the next bus can be excruciating!

I'm just curious..which resort do you guys stay at that the buses are so far apart at night when people are tired? When I'm leaving the park along with the hoards of other people, the buses seem to come one after the other (POP and POR). I've waited when starting out in the morning, but at night, as the parks start to close, they seem to just keep coming, one after the other. They fill one up, and another comes. That's what I was talking about when I've said I would just take the next, if they were crowded and if I wanted a seat. I stand in the monorail most times, by choice, since that is a nice, smooth ride, with that nice center railing to hold on to.

 

[Sherrilatte]

My biggest disappointment is the insane spread of the princess character meals pocks over WDW ... WE NEED A VACCINE!

 

[drakethib]

Last trip at Disney the wife and I were on a bus going back to POFQ and an elderly couple got on the bus.

I stood up and offered him my seat (his wife took the last one).

He stated he did not want it but I insisted.

He sat down and whispered to something to my wife.

We we got off the bus I asked my wife what he whispered to her and she told me he said`"It is good to see they are still men with manners in the world".

My wife said she was never so proud of me as when he said that.

...patting myself on the back....

 

[berkshire mike]

Last week was our families first time at WDW. We absolutely had a great time. It was the BEST vacation ever, hands down. It's true what people say "everything is magical at Disney". Everyone (well lets say 99.99%) including CMs and guests were happy, friendly, smiling and polite ever after long days in the parks. We saw many instances of people being nice to others that it was part of what makes Disney special.
Perhaps I was being judgmental in some cases. Not everyone who looks health is and that's someone I should be more aware of. Perhaps the 30ish guy who looks like he could lift a house needed a seat more than the 70ish women. I'm sure the guy had a sore back and the elderly women was a marathon runner who would have slug him if he insulted her by offering her his seat......oops there I go again.
Again I do apologize to anyone I offended.

 

[Pea-n-Me]

After surviving breast cancer last year I thank my lucky stars I am well enough to stand. (Being given the gift of health has a whole new meaning after something like that). I always have and always will offer my seat to anyone who needs it more than I do, it really doesn't matter what the circumstances are (crowded bus or not; whether I've been waiting or not, etc...).

BTW, if anyone holds the door for me I always make eye contact and give a big Thank You. If someone offered me a seat and I didn't want it I would just say No Thank You. Fairly simple. It's sad to hear that some people are offended by someone trying to be nice.

 

[plutolovr]

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Plutolovr Twins WOW. Why did you not wait until after your kids were born?


Dan-tot

Dan-tot,

LOL I didn't go while pregnant with my twins. I was just saying that even when I was pregnant I didn't NEED to be sitting all the time. I was very active and always up and around. Proud to say that was 17+ years ago. Kids are very healthy, and I only gained 45 pounds. Probably because I was always active.

 

[floridagirrl2]

I can see the elderly people, but a 7 year old? I don't think so--her legs are younger than mine!

Totally agree!

 

[disneyfanfamily]

This is one of the main reasons we rent a car. We feel it is worth the money! No hastling with buses. However we would happily give up our seats for someone else.

My biggest disappointment was when we would stand in line for a character to sign autographs and parents would push their kids past all of the people in line so they could get their autographs first. This happened to us over and over again. Sometimes the CM with the character noticed and would send them back to the end of the line, sometimes they did not and got their autographs before everyone else waiting.

The positive through it though is that we always use something like that as a "learning moment" for our kids. We've taught them to be polite and courteous.

 

[berkshire mike]

I don't think it's a question of who's legs are younger. It's easier for a healthy grown adult to hang on a bar that's six feet high than a four foot child.

 

[TigrLvsPooh]

I was just saying that even when I was pregnant I didn't NEED to be sitting all the time. I was very active and always up and around.

It really has nothing to do with "needing to sit all the time", that's silly. Of course I was able to stand, I was very active during my pregnancies, walked all the time, took water aerobics, etc, but standing on a bus is much different than standing on the ground. I don't know how often you go down to WDW but the bus rides can be pretty wild, whipping around corners, making sudden stops, etc. You can get thrown around quite a bit when trying to hang onto the bar. To me it's just a safety issue... the same as the ride restrictions for pregnant women all over the parks. That is why I firmly stand behind my opinion on this subject and I will always offer my seat gladly!

 

[WillCAD]

What???? How is it you link common courtesy to segregation?

Actually, I was thinking the same thing when I read the OP.

Healthy people must stand up and move to the back of the bus.

Who decides who is healthy enough to stand and who is needy enough to sit? Since there is no law about it, we must each make that decision personally, and I choose to sit.

On my last trip, I had no car and relied entirely on the WDW busses. Mind, this was early December when WDW was not very crowded - and yet EVERY bus I rode that week, from anywhere to anywhere, at any time of day or night, had people standing. If I gave up my seat whenever I saw a person with small children, or to any woman regardless of age or infirmity, I'd have been standing on every bus ride. As it was, I only got to sit down about 25% of the time anyway, and although I'm reasonably healthy, standing up on a moving bus hurts my bad knee and the three herniated disks in my back.

All this is why I rent a car whenever I can and skip the busses.

 

[jarestel]

Well, in the interest of safety, Disney COULD choose to board only enough passengers as there are seats. That way, everyone who makes it onto the bus will be seated, and it would definitely make for a safer trip.

However, this would add travel time to-from our Disney destinations and I suspect WDW visitors are more concerned with getting to-from the parks quickly than they are worried about who has to stand on a bus. So a relatively simple problem to solve never will get solved because deep down we don't want to sacrifice time for convenience and safety (ours or others ).

 

[WEDway2002]

As far as pregnant, you chose to go to DW in that condition, no one forced you. I know what I'm talking about. I carried twins for a full 9 months. I never felt like I HAD to sit down. I would walk and do lots of things. In fact being on my feet always felt better. JMO

Nice ... real nice ... I assume you are referring to my post about my pregnant wife at WDW. Well ... she too was ready, willing and able to stand and walk (and leap tall buildings for that matter) ... as a matter of fact, she was made uncomfortable by the idea of taking someone else's seat. I was merely referring to the death of civility and manners so rampant today. She never EXPECTED a seat - I only hoped to witness at least one random act of kindness.

Dave

 

[drakethib]

I'd call it rude!!!
My mother would kick my you-know-what all over Disney if she saw me do something like that.

Mike.

I think our mothers are related.

 

[drakethib]

Obviously many of us just have different ideas of what the "right" thing to do is. But in my opinion if you've waited and waited for a bus, and you're so tired and exhausted you can't give your seat to an elderly person, or a woman holding an infant, then you stayed out too late! This is just common courtesy people!! It's no different than being in line at the grocery store and the person behind you only has one item to buy and you have a cart full. Or seeing someone on the road trying to pull out into traffic and slowing down so they can merge in. If you haven't tried doing things like this, you should! You'll be surprised how little acts of kindness can come back around to you!

I agree 100%.

If someone wants to get mad at me for having good manners, so be it.

I will continue to open doors for women (call me a male pig if you want), offer my seat to people if deemed necessary, and say yes ma'am to every woman I speak with.

As I said before, if my dear old mom thought I was doing differently, I would get a smack upside the head.

 

[drakethib]

Nice ... real nice ... I assume you are referring to my post about my pregnant wife at WDW. Well ... she too was ready, willing and able to stand and walk (and leap tall buildings for that matter) ... as a matter of fact, she was made uncomfortable by the idea of taking someone else's seat. I was merely referring to the death of civility and manners so rampant today. She never EXPECTED a seat - I only hoped to witness at least one random act of kindness.

Dave

Wow.

You know, I have to wonder. What kind of a Man would not get up off of his butt to give a seat to pregnant woman?

Is chivalry truly dead?

 

[snyderla]

Besides, I'm not sure that all of the posters who "offer" have thought through the implication of their offers. Why is it automatically considered a "good deed" to go up to a complete stranger and suggest that they are too old, too female, too infirm or too pregnant to survive without your sacrifice?

As I've said, if asked, I'll gladly - with a truly joyous and friendly attitude - do whatever I can to help. But to make an offer which - when all the self-satisfaction is boiled out - is really just saying "Hey, Gramps - you're so old you need this seat more than I do" (or "Hey, Gimpy" or "Hey Preggo") doesn't seem the courteous thing to do.

IMHO - YMMV

I'm sorry, but that is just ridiculous! I am 42 & have RA (since I was 17) and I would certainly not feel that someone was saying "Hey Gimp" by offering me their seat, unless of course they actually SAID "hey gimp"! I would think they were being compassionate! And I would be grateful! It wouldn't be about whether I could "survive without your sacrifice!" It seems to me that perhaps you are an insensitive person and if self-satisfaction is your motivation, well, perhaps it is just an excuse for you to feel better about not giving up your seat?

That being said, I frequently stand on the bus. The only time I have had a problem was one wild ride where I was standing in an area of the bus in which I could not reach a grab bar. (I have range of motion issues with my arms.) That was the worst ride of 11 trips to WDW (which would include over 100 bus rides).

I'm sorry for my reply, the above post just really ticked me off!!! Why would you want to make people feel bad for doing the right thing???

Lori

 

[*Fantasia*]

I did not read all the post, just a few.

Here is my thoughts on this:

If I was pregnant or if I was a 60 year old woman... I would just rent a car! This way I am guaranteed I will have my comfortable seat! I don't even have to wait in line! I can come and go as I please anywhere I want to be. I can even play with the temperature and hey.. I can even listen to music!

Whew... It feels great to have a rental car! I don't have to give up my seat to nobody! Anyway... I think my children are too small to drive anyways!

However... There are some times when I do take the bus to and from the parks. If I was pregnant or if I was a 60 year old woman and I need to take the bus, I would wait for the next bus so I can find a seat and sit down comfortably.

Why would I want to inconvinience the folks who are already seated and they have already been waiting and waiting in line for sooo long and they were there first before me and they are just as tired as I am who is pregnant or who is an old woman. I think it would be so mean if I start starring at them as if they SHOULD or they MUST give up the seat for me. As far as I am concern, they don't have to do anything for me. If however someone gives up their seat for me, then I would be very thankful and appreciate his thoughtfulness. If they don't...then hey... standing up in the bus is also part of disney just like standing in line for sooo long to get on the ride is part of disney.

Some are thoughtful than others, some are sharing than others, and some are not so thoughtful and have no common courtesy. It is not their fault that that's the way they are. You can't blame them for not giving up their seat. Not everyone are nice and thoughtful as we would like them to be. So if it's very important for you to sit down, then just wait for another bus, and for sure you will have a seat. OR.. To solve the problem... I say.. rent a car. Simple as that.

Blah..blah..blah.. Sorry... this post is looong!

 

[weregoingtodw]

I did not read all the post, just a few.

Here is my thoughts on this:

If I was pregnant or if I was a 60 year old woman... I would just rent a car! This way I am guaranteed I will have my comfortable seat! I don't even have to wait in line! I can come and go as I please anywhere I want to be. I can even play with the temperature and hey.. I can even listen to music!

 

[DVCconvert]

Well, I'm prepared to burn in hell for all of eternity for this, but:

As a reasonalbly healthy 40 something, I ALWAYS ask someone who MAY have need for my seat more than I (even after walking 10 miles in the parks and my feet and back feel like their in a vice) if there's a seating shortage on any public transport (bus/monorail etc).

That person could be:
male/female/young/old/heavy/light/great with child/with child/not with or great with child/carring packages/using a walking assisting device or not/solo or with others - or may just look hot,bothered, tired.

Life is short. My back & feet might be bothering me, but, I was raised that I was supposed to act like a gentleman. I was to try to act towards others in a manner that I'd like others to act towards me. I'm by no means perfect. But the value in helping another who maybe suffering more than me is a greater reward to me than my momentary comfort.

I think it is my right to treat people as people. If they choose not to avail themselves of my offer, so be it. It has been my experience that 1% may response in a less than kind way, 4 % may refuse, and 95% appreciate the kindness extended.