Biggest disappointment at WDW......

[Disney-Kim]

This is a heated topic but I wanted to say that I am glad to hear others post that they don't feel obligated to give up their seat in all these situations. I for one, am always appalled when I don't see younger people not giving up their seats for elderly, pregnant, or Mom's with babies. But you know what.....I waited for a long time in long lines too and I feel that if you get on a bus that is SRO then you should expect to stand. I do.

and...having suffered severe back problems for years sometimes I can't stand anymore, but then no one on the bus is going to know that.

We should all be less judgemental of others

 

[NJOYURLIFE]

I agree that nobody has a right to the seat more than anyone else. However I think it's sad that nobody on the bus offered a pregnant mother or the three small kids thier seat.
No offense to you but.....at 35 standing for another 15 minutes wouldn't have killed you.

If they were OK to run, then let them stand. These are not corner bus stops. Every one I have seen in Disney has at least one or two benchs and if the crowd has just cleared out it should be pretty easy to grab a seat while you are waiting. To use one posters thinking if they were so tired they needed to get on that bus, then they should have headed back earlier.

and don't I wish I was down in Disney recently.....anyway, I still stand by my earlier comments that 1. noone should be expected to give up there seats to someone who choses to get on a crowded bus (if you are in the back of a crowd, you got to be pretty dense not to realize there is a chance you may not get a seat - or maybe you were tired and got on the bus not reallizing it, but OOPS I forgot, if you were tired, you should have headed back earlier and 2. NO ONE should judge others actions just because they think someone is obviously healthy and can stand.

Lisa

PS I am normally not this arguementative, but at least I haven't named names in my post!

 

[Stitch's Greatest Fa]

Could I point out that the title of this thread is "Your biggest disappointment at DW" so far we have had 5 pages of heated debate about bus seats - we get the point. SO what other disappointments have people had?????

 

[mking624]

Actually the title wasn't YOUR biggest disappointment at WDW" is was simply "Biggest disappointment at WDW" and then the OP went to describe what that disappointment was...without asking what everyone else's disappointment was. Which explains why people keep talking about the OP's topic. Not to get off subject here, but when you look at it, it makes sense why there's already 5 pages on the same issue.

 

[GEM]

Actually, I'm pretty sure the OP started this thread to discuss the bus issue - which was his biggest disappointment (and thus the title of the thread), not to find out what others were disappointed by.

 

[Amy&Dan]

To me this is an issue of common courtesy and common sense. When some man concerned about his pregnant wife asks if anyone will give their seat to his expectant wife it is incredible to me that A) nobody got up and B)somebody here posted that they would be put out that he had the NERVE to ask on behalf of his wife. Also maybe some people will be put out if you offer them your seat, thinking that you are making a statement about their age, gender or well being. Personally I prefer to err on the side of good manners and decency. I will continue to offer my seat to people who look like they might need it more than I do. In doing this, I hope to set an example to my children. If somebody gets offended well they can do it while they stand but I guarantee you that won't change my thinking one bit! If the worst thing that ever happens to you is that your kindness is met with nastiness than at least you can go to your grave knowing YOU did the right thing!

 

[Shagley]

I guess I didn't explain in my last post as well as I thought. I totally agree that people should give up their seats if they see others need it. My point was just that I don't think it should be demanded. I just meant, don't get on a bus expecting that someone will give up their seat to you and then get mad when they don't.

I totally agree that it is common courtesy, and that people that are able should do it. And even if I think that they could have waited for another bus or whatever, I will always be one of the first people to give up my seat if needed.

No offense to you but.....at 35 standing for another 15 minutes wouldn't have killed you.

Berkshire Mike - I agree with you. The only reason I didn't get up in that situation is because I had gotten to the bus stop so early, that I had the very back seat. The aisle was blocked by strollers, legs, etc. and the person needing to sit down wouldn't have been able to made it back to me. My friends and I would have given up our seats if we were closer. Even though I was irritated with the man for demanding that people give up their seats, I was still suprised when no one did offer their seats to at least his pregnant wife. I may think one thing, but I will always do what is the nice thing to do.

 

[GoofyJo]

My son is 22 and suffers from rheumatoid arthritis. The condition has fused some of his joints together and his joints sometimes swell(flare) even with all his medications. He is a gracious young man when he can be, but there are times when he needs to sit. I'm sure he might seem like a rude person, but you cannot see his ailment on the outside. I know rudeness happens, but it is impossible to judge a persons true situation. He has been judged harshly by teachers when his shoes cannot stay tied ect. I would hate for him to be judged on a bus when others don't see his pain. I guess what I'm trying to say is be careful when you don't know other's situations.

 

[WEDway2002]

was the number of grown men who would not give up thier seat to an older person, woman or small child.

My 11 year old son and I gave up our seats many times over the course of the week.

Amen! Amen! Amen! AND Good for you and your son!!!!!

Boy, I just saw this post and it really hit a nerve! I think exactly as you do! My DW and I once visited when she was 8 months pregnant with my DD
(o.k. ... hi, I'm Dave and I have a WDW addiction) and on several occasions she had to stand on the monorail while able bodied younger men sat!!!! Even my not so soft comments and eye contact didn't help. I now make sure to teach my DS and DD about this very important act of good manners.

Let's keep it goin' (the polite thing) maybe it'll catch on!

By the way ... don't get me started on the wearing of hats indoors or at the dinner table! Grrrrrrrrrrrr ...


Dave

 

[momof2inPA]

You know, this thread has made me remember all the nice people we have talked to on the busses at Disney World. We have been lucky to have never been the object of or the guilty parties in the seat issue. Most times when we get on a bus, we meet nice folks complimenting our cute kids, or other kids making friends while sharing a little snack, or people who have never heard of fast pass and need to have it explained. Even though the bus rides are sometimes long and tiresome, they are also sometimes fun and friendly.

 

[MakiraMarlena]

I was on a subway once when I saw a man get up and offer his seat to a blind man who was standing (he had a white cane).

The blind man yelled, basically, "What makes you think I need help from you?" interspersed with various four letter words.

I wonder if it was a long time before that guy offered anyone a seat again. Everybody on the train looked aghast.

On the other side, remember that if someone offers you a seat, they're not trying to insult you, just to be polite.

 

[plutolovr]

This post is exactly why we almost NEVER take the buses. We always rent a car. BUT, when we do take the bus or the monorail, I do make my kids get up for someone older. Although, I don't think it should be demanded. Afterall, if gram and gramp are healthy enough to walk around DW then why can't they stand? They stood in line for rides, food, etc. As far as pregnant, you chose to go to DW in that condition, no one forced you. I know what I'm talking about. I carried twins for a full 9 months. I never felt like I HAD to sit down. I would walk and do lots of things. In fact being on my feet always felt better. JMO

 

[mking624]

Well I'm gonna give a perspective here that came from my grandfather's experience back in 2001. He was in WDW in the month of July. During most of his stay, he stayed in his hotel room...the heat was way too much for him. Around lunch time, he'd go out to DTD to take me & my husband or other family members out to lunch. We wouldn't walk around DTD, we'd just go straight to the restaurant and back again. The heat made him would make him very sick...as he had cancer and had been undergoing chemo at the time (he passed away last year). So why was he in WDW? Because he was healthy and could walk around all day? No. He was there because my aunt & uncle were renewing their vows for their 25th anniversary and he was giving my aunt (his DIL) "away." This was special for him. He knew he only had a few more years left to live and he wanted to be there...even if it meant being in very hot and humid conditions (something he HATED because it made him so sick). He never complained one time. Fortunately, because he'd only really come out around lunch time, buses were never full and he could always get a seat. But I bring up this situation because as other people have brought up, you really don't know what's going on in the lives of people. My grandfather always downplayed what he went through so he never felt he had the right to ask for a seat, even though he really really needed one. And it was way too hot for him to wait and wait for more buses. So I do hope people would have been courteous enough to offer him a seat if there ever came a time that he would have needed one.

 

[mmcguire]

I recall only a few instances of disappointing bus rides at WDW. We generally don't mind standing at all, but there were a couple of times when a seat would have been graciously welcomed.

Several yrs ago, DH and I had bought groceries at Disney Village Marketplace (now Downtown Dis), and each had a couple of pretty large bags. Busses there are few and far between, so we had to take a SRO bus. Nobody offered us a seat, and we struggled to keep our balance and avoid dumping our cargo onto seated passengers the whole ride back.

Last trip in 2003, we had a 1 yr old, stroller, and diaper bag in tow, and several times we stood in the aisle, hanging onto the rail with one hand, holding a toddler or balancing a stroller with the other. During those rides, I couldn't help but notice young lap-sized children taking up seats while their parents sat next to them without batting an eye. I've always had our son sit on my lap (even until he was 9 years old) if there was someone who needed a seat.

Some folks just seem to get an inflated sense of entitlement while on vacation, as if Their Vacation takes precedence over everyone else's needs. How are children supposed to learn courtesy and respect if their own parents don't display it?

 

[DrTomorrow]

I think it's quite bold of you to start turning random acts of kindness and thoughtfulness into something more sinister. No one on here has indicated about a personal sacrifice of giving up a seat, no one said others aren't able to take care of themselves. But neither should those who ARE doing something kind (and yes, something as simple as offering a seat is an act of kindness) should be treated as though they just spit in a person's face. It ticks me off that people insist on twisting such a simple gesture into something far different. No one is "implying" anything by offering a seat to someone. It's not anyone's fault but your own if you choose to twist it into something different.

That has got to be the saddest comment I have read on this board.

Let me be crystal clear here. I have always tried to be courteous. But I'm not the one doing the "turning" you accuse me of; it was the very people I was being courteous to! Please re-read my earlier posts - I've been insulted and cussed at because I made a kind gesture. Random acts of kindness? I've been doing them for years, ever since I read about them in Utne Reader. You know that "pay the toll for the car behind you" trick? I do that every time we drive from the Orlando airport along the tollroad to WDW.
My only point - one that you still haven't picked up on - is that no matter what your intent is when you make a gesture, there's no guarantee that the recipient will take it way you intend it. Offering a seat to an senior citizen can be taken as either a sign of respect and kindness (how I intend it) or a sign of disrespect, that I think they're unable to speak for themselves (which I've been told, to my face, by such a senior citizen.
If you folks have never been accused of feeling superior, of condescending, of trying to "assert my power" over someone, then I'm happy for you. Wait until you're told that your "act of kindness" really ticked off the recipient - then give me a PM.

I really am a nice guy - honest. There's just something called "The Law of Unintended Consequences" that gums things up....

Be well.

 

[debbiedoo]

I have always been courteous to others on the bus, that is the proper thing to do. . . .

why not add this beef to the pot:

(debbiedoo puts on her flame retardant suit):

My biggest beef is the people that park at DTD and skip paying at the parks and use WDW transportation when not even a WDW RESORT GUEST!!!! I stayed at OKW and SSR last year and I saw this first hand many times. Teenagers(and families) jumping ahead of the line to get to the back of the bus, goin to PI, trying to figure out how to get to DTD at the resort--the WDW bus driver that we had said nothing. Not saying that they are all like that. One one of our buses from MGM studios--half the bus was going to DTD.

I think that the WDW tranportation should take the extra second to look at our room keys, yes it might be a pain in the *** but it might solve part of the bus problem.

How does that make resort paying guests and DVC members feel. . . .AAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! Ok enough said. . . .

(debbiedoo steps off the stand. . . . . )

 

[TigrLvsPooh]

I never asked for a seat... my husband asked because he loves me and cares about me. I would assume most loving husbands don't want to see their pregnant wives holding onto a bar while the bus whips them around. It's just common sense that being seated is a safer way to travel. Also, just so you know, there were only 2 or 3 people standing, so it's not like we forced our way onto a crowded bus and started demanding people get up. I'm not that stupid.

The whole point of this thread is pointless because SOME people just really don't give a rat's backside about anyone else. But, as I said earlier, what comes around goes around.

 

[debbiedoo]

The whole point of this thread is pointless because SOME people just really don't give a rat's backside about anyone else. But, as I said earlier, what comes around goes around.

I will second that!!!!!!

 

[dan-tot]

You know what disappoints me is figment's new ride instead of the old ride and Horizons. Miss them both. Not disney but King Kong at USF Miss that one to. I have a rental car most of the time so I don't ride the buses as much as everyone else. I think if a person in need is on a bus then it is up to you to make your own decision about whether you will act.
Plutolovr Twins WOW. Why did you not wait until after your kids were born?


Dan-tot

 

[OkieDisney]

Wow! I will keep offering others my seat, and even if I get yelled
at 99 times out of 100 by doing so, it will be worth it for that one
person that accepts and appreciates the act.

I would rather see the tired folks push on to the bus rather than have
to wait 20, 30 or 40 mins. Waiting for the next bus can be excruciating!
How does anyone know when the busses are arriving to get there
"early?"