BEWARE OF BRAZILIANS~tour groups that is!Just back from AllStar Movies.....

[Aerorea]

You dont get out much, do you?

That's what I was thinking too. I've been to Brazil, and have many close friends from Brazil. What these posters are encountering is plain and simple rude group behavior. Personally, I'd avoid any and every large group. Ever been around a group of cheerleaders, talk about chanting!

 

[a1tinkfans]

I could care less what country they came from too.

ANY person, adult or child, that is in a HUGE group and purposely disturbing others is a NIGHTMARE while on any vacation!

Avoid those two times like the PLAGUE to enjoy your vacation!

 

[auntie]

Simple fact is the OP refers to Brazilian tour groups. They didn't make that up. They are enough of an issue to be mentioned in a tour guide specific to Disney World. Just as the cheer groups are mentioned.
Whatever someone experienced in regard to visiting during that time period, is their experience and they are choosing to share it here.

 

[tiger4me2]

The Brazilian tour groups generally descend like locusts(as in plagues!!)in January and July. You should be fine in October.

We were there last may, Sept, & Dec & they were there. I think it depends when some come up to Disney. We were there this past Dec & went to the Lion King & they were there & it was horrible. Like the OP said it took a CM to tell them to keep quiet. They didn't & the show was delayed, so a manager came out & told the leader either they kept their group under control or security would be called & they would be taken out of the theater. Needless to say they were quiet.

 

[dklam]

As a HS teacher, I do agree that anytime you have large groups of kids with few chaperones, they can tend to get a bit out-of-hand! Add to the mix a language barrier, and it may seem even worse (although I tend to think that more of the kids spoke or at least understood basic English than they let on). During our time there last week, we did encounter many different groups, but the only time I felt that there was an issue was in POTC, when people were just jammed in throughout the tunnels, and it just seemed like an accident waiting to happen. DH thought that it was a totally unsafe situation, and if any kind of emergency happened, it was a disaster-in-the-making (he compared it to the Station Nightclub Fire in RI a few years back). We did what many posters have said - when we saw a large group with a flag, we just went somewhere else. Would have done the same if it was a large group of American teens, too. Sure, we got jostled a few times, pushed out of the way, but that happens. But, having never been in January before, it was a new experience for us. I had heard of the Pop Warner crowds, the Cheer crowds, and the South American crowds, but you just have to make the best of it whenever you go. To me, it sure beats the summer crowds and heat!

 

[dipin]

Simple fact is the OP refers to Brazilian tour groups. They didn't make that up. They are enough of an issue to be mentioned in a tour guide specific to Disney World. Just as the cheer groups are mentioned.
Whatever someone experienced in regard to visiting during that time period, is their experience and they are choosing to share it here.

And if you read anything at all carefully, you would notice that most people that have taken issue with the content of some posts here do not at any point deny that large groups of Brazilian teenagers unsupervised can be troublesome. The problem is with the extended generalization to all Brazilians, and even all Latin Americans. There is a huge step from "Brazilian teenagers in large groups are generally obnoxious and rude" to "south americans are obnoxious, rude, dont know how to behave in a crowd, smell bad and touch blond children inappropriately."


By the way, that guide probably also mentions pop warner, cheerleader competitions, and spring break. None of that means that it is ok to go on stereotyping Americans, cheerleaders, football players or spring breakers.

 

[Misty89]

WHEN do they leave???

are they gone by now????


OMG

 

[hockeymomNS]

ofte

That's what I was thinking too. I've been to Brazil, and have many close friends from Brazil. What these posters are encountering is plain and simple rude group behavior. Personally, I'd avoid any and every large group. Ever been around a group of cheerleaders, talk about chanting!

Wow and we are talking bad behavior/manners.

I just talked with my husband to check this story as it happened waaaay too many times to be one weird group. He remembers walking the baby through the lobby and into the restaurant of the former Delta Orlando Resort and one group getting ready to board the shuttle. He says several of them came straight at the baby and touched him.This happened in the parks as well. Not sure why you would want to contradict this story??? If I remember, folklore has it that fairies favor golden haired children or replaced children with their own golden haired/good luck babies.

Not that I think you deserve an explanation, but I am fairly well travelled and find especially Brazilians who value outward beauty above all.....to be quite self absorbed. I also have teenagers and travelled with them on trips...are they on perfect behavior always? No, nor am I naive enough to think all groups don't get out of hand. What I do believe and have seen is that alot of the South American groups lack consideration for others and no other groups get spoken to by CM's as often as I have personally witnessed.

 

[ree123]

And if you read anything at all carefully, you would notice that most people that have taken issue with the content of some posts here do not at any point deny that large groups of Brazilian teenagers unsupervised can be troublesome. The problem is with the extended generalization to all Brazilians, and even all Latin Americans. There is a huge step from "Brazilian teenagers in large groups are generally obnoxious and rude" to "south americans are obnoxious, rude, dont know how to behave in a crowd, smell bad and touch blond children inappropriately."


By the way, that guide probably also mentions pop warner, cheerleader competitions, and spring break. None of that means that it is ok to go on stereotyping Americans, cheerleaders, football players or spring breakers.

Like I mentioned earlier, I changed the title of the post. Im not apologizing again for my post. Its all facts, and it wasnt the first time we were in the parks with these groups from Brazil. EVERYtime we go, they are there.The behavior is the same~rude, obnoxious, even dangerous at times. This time, there was, like I said 20-25%of the parks were full of these groups. They cant have just chaparone whe theres a group of 150. Ya kiddin me? If my 16 year old was goin on a vacation with a tour group, you better believe Id make sure the ratio of chaparones to kids is better

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[dipin]

Wow and we are talking bad behavior/manners.

I just talked with my husband to check this story as it happened waaaay too many times to be one weird group. He remembers walking the baby through the lobby and into the restaurant of the former Delta Orlando Resort and one group getting ready to board the shuttle. He says several of them came straight at the baby and touched him.This happened in the parks as well. Not sure why you would want to contradict this story??? If I remember, folklore has it that fairies favor golden haired children or replaced children with their own golden haired/good luck babies.

Not that I think you deserve an explanation, but I am fairly well travelled and find especially Brazilians who value outward beauty above all.....to be quite self absorbed. I also have teenagers and travelled with them on trips...are they on perfect behavior always? No, nor am I naive enough to think all groups don't get out of hand. What I do believe and have seen is that alot of the South American groups lack consideration for others and no other groups get spoken to by CM's as I have personally witnessed.

This cracks me up. Seriously. I am of Polish ancestry. I am blond. I spent a good chunk of my childhood in Brazil. There is no folklore that fairies do this or that. Talk about a bunch of crock.

So a few people patted your kid on the head. THAT is your evidence for such a ridiculous claim? As opposed to people who actually lived in Brazil? Better yet, were blond while in Brazil?

Again, I guarantee that there is no such thing as a belief that blond children are somehow good luck charms, or that fairies have anything to do with it.

As for valuing outward appearance above all, I think that anyone that does that is self absorbed. As for Brazilians being particularly concerned with outward appearance, Brazil is second in the world in terms of cosmetic surgery. But then again, the US is first, so oh well.

 

[WLSILVERCREEKSPRINGS]

I'm not at all offended by the title. If they are a teenage groups of Brazilians what else would you call them? Just a group of teenagers? Well then your offending all teenagers. How about just a group? Well that doesn't work either because then you are offending any large gathering of people. There is nothing offensive or racist about identifying the offending person(s) by the full description of who they are.........

 

[dipin]

I'm not at all offended by the title. If they are a teenage groups of Brazilians what else would you call them? Just a group of teenagers? Well then your offending all teenagers. How about just a group? Well that doesn't work either because then you are offending any large gathering of people. There is nothing offensive or racist about identifying the offending person(s) by the full description of who they are.........

I have no problems with the OP as she edited the thread title. But, fyi, the thread was originally titled "Beware of Brazilians." That has changed, and as I said I have no problems with it, or to admitting that I myself avoid Brazilian teenager tour groups.

I do have a problem, though, with some of the other posts who have decided to not only stereotype all South Americans at disney, but have gone beyond that to stereotyping all South Americans, period, as foul smelling, baby grabbing, fairy worshiping savages. It is unfortunate that people take threads like this and go full blown xenophobic on others.

 

[auntie]

Oh Lord..here we go. The thread now goes from avoid the large, rude, Brazilian tour groups..which is a FACT...that so many of us have experienced. Well documented even in the Unoffical Guide..as well as the Cheerleaders.(which I also previously mentioned).To racial profiling Brazilians
Please...I also avoid Cheerleading groups like the plague. I don't make up another name for them. It is what it is. Not every cheerleader in the world is rude and obnoxious either, but I'd avoid traveling when they are visiting in hordes. As a whole..they're loud and annoying ...same as the Brazilians, and I'd do anything I could to avoid traveling when either one of them is there.

 

[Doctor P]

Is anyone else offended by the title of this thread? I live in an area with a large Brazilian population. They are generally good hard working people.

I understand you are bothered by the unsupervised teenage tour groups and had a bad experience, but don't condemn everyone of the same nationality because of it.

BTW, we always go in July, and while I have seen these group I haven't had any issues with them.

It's really nice to be politically correct, and really nice to defend groups. I felt the same way, until I went to Disney and experienced these groups to the nth degree. I'm sorry, but there is no comparison to these groups with American high schoolers or even college students on spring break who are not drunk. The first fifty or so times that it happened over the years, I brushed it off to "kids being kids" but then it became really, really evident that there was a pattern to the troublemakers. Unfortunately, there IS a difference between the behavior of these groups of young people and other ethnic groups who visit Disney.

 

[Aerorea]

ofte

Not that I think you deserve an explanation, but I am fairly well travelled and find especially Brazilians who value outward beauty above all.....to be quite self absorbed.

And I suppose that any foreigner who traveled to certain parts of the country (like maybe Hollywood, or LA) would have the same views of Americans. While it is true that Rio is a world leader in cosmetic surgery, using that kind of stereotype isn't fair and is uncalled for.

BTW, I have very close friends (they were even in our wedding party) that are from Brazil and DH & I have even traveled to Rio and stayed with their family for a week. I saw no more rude behavior than anywhere else I've traveled. Oh yeah, and I'm a blonde. The color of my hair wasn't even mentioned.

 

[Tabatha]

This cracks me up. Seriously. I am of Polish ancestry. I am blond. I spent a good chunk of my childhood in Brazil. There is no folklore that fairies do this or that. Talk about a bunch of crock.

So a few people patted your kid on the head. THAT is your evidence for such a ridiculous claim? As opposed to people who actually lived in Brazil? Better yet, were blond while in Brazil?

Again, I guarantee that there is no such thing as a belief that blond children are somehow good luck charms, or that fairies have anything to do with it.

As for valuing outward appearance above all, I think that anyone that does that is self absorbed. As for Brazilians being particularly concerned with outward appearance, Brazil is second in the world in terms of cosmetic surgery. But then again, the US is first, so oh well.

I am of Portuguese decent and I very distinctly remember my great grand mother telling me about fairies when I was growing up. Now these were not the cute polite Tinker-Bell and friends types - these fairies were mean, problematic sprits which could be compared to "gremlins" in other cultures. The Fairy Anhanga would often times steal children for all sorts of reason. Usually "golden Haired" (blond) kids were those choose because they were different than the typical dark and hairy fairies.

point is a- you don't know everything and b - these groups are a pain!

 

[Jennygt]

It's really nice to be politically correct, and really nice to defend groups. I felt the same way, until I went to Disney and experienced these groups to the nth degree. I'm sorry, but there is no comparison to these groups with American high schoolers or even college students on spring break who are not drunk. The first fifty or so times that it happened over the years, I brushed it off to "kids being kids" but then it became really, really evident that there was a pattern to the troublemakers. Unfortunately, there IS a difference between the behavior of these groups of young people and other ethnic groups who visit Disney.

I could not agree more, I was trampled by the leader with the flag last year(sept) at DHS in the am, they were trying to push me over to get past the rope to go to TOT, the park was not even open yet! A cm got involved thankfuly before my husband did. I don't know what the explination is for the pattern of behavior that you seen with this particular tour group, but it is a problem that is real and you should avoid them at all costs. I can remember as a child wondering why these groups were so disruptive, and I was no angel by any stretch, so it made an impression on me.PC or not this is the truth,they are a PIA.

 

[dipin]

I am of Portuguese decent and I very distinctly remember my great grand mother telling me about fairies when I was growing up. Now these were not the cute polite Tinker-Bell and friends types - these fairies were mean, problematic sprits which could be compared to "gremlins" in other cultures. The Fairy Anhanga would often times steal children for all sorts of reason. Usually "golden Haired" (blond) kids were those choose because they were different than the typical dark and hairy fairies.

point is a- you don't know everything and b - these groups are a pain!

I do know enough that the idea that whatever your Portuguese great grandmother told you is hardly representative of modern day Brazil, and that the poster in question is talking about it being part of the folklore.

And in any case, I do know enough about Brazilian folklore to categorically dismiss any notion that such an idea is even locally widespread in Brazil, and that therefore any notion that that is representative of Brazil in part or as a whole is at the very least wrong.

 

[Jblust524]

Dlphin -

It's this type of politically correct insanity that drives me nuts. Call a freaking spade a spade, I've been to Disney and it is LATIN AMERICAN tour groups that cause a lot of problems perfectly described by the original poster. By you defending/denying that this is the case, you become an apologist for this behavior, then you try to label people as racist or xenophobes because they are calling it like the see it.

It is neither racist or Xenophobic to be honest and call it like you see it. And I'm telling you, I've seen exactly what the others are describing for my own eyes, for me to say otherwise would render me insane.

If I was in Cancun and saw American kids acting the same way, I'd be appalled at that behavior too....but I'm not, we are talking about Disney.

 

[dipin]

Dlphin -

It's this type of politically correct insanity that drives me nuts. Call a freaking spade a spade, I've been to Disney and it is LATIN AMERICAN tour groups that cause a lot of problems perfectly described by the original poster. By you defending/denying that this is the case, you become an apologist for this behavior, then you try to label people as racist or xenophobes because they are calling it like the see it.

It is neither racist or Xenophobic to be honest and call it like you see it. And I'm telling you, I've seen exactly what the others are describing for my own eyes, for me to say otherwise would render me insane.

If I was in Cancun and saw American kids acting the same way, I'd be appalled at that behavior too....but I'm not, we are talking about Disney.

And it is functional illiteracy that drives ME nuts. Where did I ever deny that Latin American tour groups can be troublesome? Please, go find it.

My problem was solely with the posters who from then on went to generalize to Latin Americans in general, and in every setting.

By the way, do a couple of searches on pop warner and cheerleader on this very board and let me know how would you like it if all of the sudden people were talking about all Americans that way.

Political correctness sucks, until it is your group being stereotyped.