Barry Manilow Refuses The View because of Rosie?

What do you disagree to?

That the country is really divided over the war?

Or that another two years of the exact same results and feelings we're getting now, will only be worse as time goes on?

That the President and the GOP in general, have been hurt by the Iraq war and how it's been handled? It was the POTUS who made the decision after all to invade.

Do you really feel that everything is great and going good and it's all media bias that's driving the low poll numbers?

Is the dissatisfaction of millions of people like me, all imagined?

That thanks to the mistakes that have been made, that it's a strong possibility that the Democrats may take the WH in 08? Do you disagree with that?

I look forward to you giving me your detailed view points and maybe I can see where you're coming from.

Me too, Joe. I'd like to hear some more detail to your positions than a sound byte and a smilie face. You seem to have really strong convictions and I'd like to know how you came to them.
 
Here's my two cents.

I think it's ridiculous that he only wants to be interviewed by certain hosts of the View. I would think it was just as ridiculous if it were a conservative who only wanted Elisabeth to interview him/her. That's just not how the show works.

I don't see the harm in someone with an opposing viewpoint interviewing him. I don't see how that compromises his beliefs in any way. He doesn't have to agree with Hasselback, just speak with her along with Joy, Whoopi, etc. Where's the harm in having a conversation with someone you don't agree with. I think this reeks of publicity stunt.



You are absolutely correct. I don't watch The View and I am a fan of Barry, but now I think he is a big baby. EVERYONE is entitled to their own views and opinions. It is outrageous how some people are so arrogant. I don't agree with most "liberals", BUT I respect their rights and opinions.
 
What do you disagree to?

That the country is really divided over the war?

Or that another two years of the exact same results and feelings we're getting now, will only be worse as time goes on?

That the President and the GOP in general, have been hurt by the Iraq war and how it's been handled? It was the POTUS who made the decision after all to invade.

Do you really feel that everything is great and going good and it's all media bias that's driving the low poll numbers?

Is the dissatisfaction of millions of people like me, all imagined?

That thanks to the mistakes that have been made, that it's a strong possibility that the Democrats may take the WH in 08? Do you disagree with that?

I look forward to you giving me your detailed view points and maybe I can see where you're coming from.

Sure the county is divided over the war, but it was the right decision to oust Saddam and fight terrorists who tried to take over Iraq. Mistakes were made in the follow up, but they have been corrected and the surge is working. I don't believe the war will help the Dems in 08 -- I believe we will have another Republican President elected in 08.
 
You people are vicious. If Barry Manilow's not a man, then what is he? I hate when people are so closed-minded :rolleyes:


You must have never heard the expression "are you a man or a mouse", which has to do with courage. Duh, he's biologically a man, but he has the courage of a mouse. He's afraid of Elisabeth! Now Tom Seleck is a man, both biologically and as opposed to being a scared mouse. He sat there when Rosie chewed him out for owning a gun. He didn't run away, he let her go on and on and on about how he must not care about the children of this country to be such a poor role model. What a wonderful host she was. But he took it with dignity.

Thank goodness Manilow isn't on ROSIE'S bad side...he'd be hiding under a bed right now!

Hope that helps!;)
 

Sure the county is divided over the war, but it was the right decision to oust Saddam and fight terrorists who tried to take over Iraq. Mistakes were made in the follow up, but they have been corrected and the surge is working. I don't believe the war will help the Dems in 08 -- I believe we will have another Republican President elected in 08.


Fight terrorists who tried to take over Iraq? Right decision? The terrorists weren't in Iraq until we invaded. The surge is working?
 
I'd like to know how EH's opinions are "dangerous." What do you mean by that?
 
This is exactly why I don't like political discussions anymore. There's no happy medium anymore, no more intelligent discussion, no agreeing to disagree, no respect for opposing opinions. I am very tired of being labeled as dangerous, narrow-minded, uncompassionate, bigotted, evil, etc... just because I happend to be a conservative. Hey, here's an idea...Have a conversation with me...get to know ME, before you put all these labels on me. And I hate equally, my conservative brethren who label liberals as commie pinkos, whackos, etc... Elisabeth Hasselbeck is not dangerous, or crazy. She's just someone with an opinion that opposes a lot of other people. Big deal. I don't spend my time editing my friends according to their political beliefs. Heck, I disagree with a lot of what Rosie used to say, but I still think she'd be a kick to hang out with. Same with Whoopi. There's a lot more to me than my party affiliation. Unlike a lot of people in this world, today, I am able to see past the differences and see things I like and want to get to know better. This is a free country, and that freedom extends to me, to Rosie, to Elisabeth, to Barry, to you, and to everybody. I don't want people to censor me simply because someone doesn't believe in what I say, and I certainly don't want to censor anyone else. That's the price you pay for all this freedom.

Can't we all just get along?? I'm all for a round of "Kumbaya"...who's with me???

Amy
 
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Face it. Barry is a self promoting pompous gasbag who is basically a has been. Elisabeth has controversial opinions that can be offensive to some, so did Rosie for that matter. People talk about Elisabeth inflicting her opinion on all the topics, well that maybe true, but is also sounds quite a bit like Rosie. How many times did she make a story all about her. Elisabeth is no prize, but she is a host on the show.

The show is what it is, and if you agree to be on a show, with a group of regular hosts, you agree to be on that show with them. Barry either doesn't have the cohones to sit there and control the coversation with Elisabeth, if in fact it turned political, or he is trying to gather attention for his album, which apparently worked. What's next, going on the Regis and Kelly show and demanding that he be interviewed by Leeza Gibbons or something. Part of The View is Elisabeth (until Babs decides to kick her to the curb.) Deal with it Barry.
 
Face it. Barry is a self promoting pompous gasbag who is basically a has been. Elisabeth has controversial opinions that can be offensive to some, so did Rosie for that matter. People talk about Elisabeth inflicting her opinion on all the topics, well that maybe true, but is also sounds quite a bit like Rosie. How many times did she make a story all about her. Elisabeth is no prize, but she is a host on the show.

The show is what it is, and if you agree to be on a show, with a group of regular hosts, you agree to be on that show with them. Barry either doesn't have the cohones to sit there and control the coversation with Elisabeth, if in fact it turned political, or he is trying to gather attention for his album, which apparently worked. What's next, going on the Regis and Kelly show and demanding that he be interviewed by Leeza Gibbons or something. Part of The View is Elisabeth (until Babs decides to kick her to the curb.) Deal with it Barry.
He's not pompous. (but the rest is right ;)).

I don't blame any male not having the cajones to join that group.

& who is Leeza Gibbons? (& what's with the spelling these days.....Elisabeth with an "s" & Leeza with a "z".)
 
This is exactly why I don't like political discussions anymore. There's no happy medium anymore, no more intelligent discussion, no agreeing to disagree, no respect for opposing opinions. I am very tired of being labeled as dangerous, narrow-minded, uncompassionate, bigotted, evil, etc... just because I happend to be a conservative. Hey, here's an idea...Have a conversation with me...get to know ME, before you put all these labels on me. And I hate equally, my conservative brethren who label liberals as commie pinkos, whackos, etc... Elisabeth Hasselbeck is not dangerous, or crazy. She's just someone with an opinion that opposes a lot of other people. Big deal. I don't spend my time editing my friends according to their political beliefs. Heck, I disagree with a lot of what Rosie used to say, but I still think she'd be a kick to hang out with. Same with Whoopi. There's a lot more to me than my party affiliation. Unlike a lot of people in this world, today, I am able to see past the differences and see things I like and want to get to know better. This is a free country, and that freedom extends to me, to Rosie, to Elisabeth, to Barry, to you, and to everybody. I don't want people to censor me simply because someone doesn't believe in what I say, and I certainly don't want to censor anyone else. That's the price you pay for all this freedom.

Can't we all just get along?? I'm all for a round of "Kumbaya"...who's with me???

Amy


:thumbsup2 :woohoo: I'm with you Amy, but only if we can also make smores around the campfire!!! :cool1:
 
He's not pompous. (but the rest is right ;)).

I don't blame any male not having the cajones to join that group.

& who is Leeza Gibbons? (& what's with the spelling these days.....Elisabeth with an "s" & Leeza with a "z".)
That is just it though. He isn't afraid to join the group, he just feels it would be "against his beliefs" to have Elizabeth as part of the discussion. Excuse me? He's there to spin his album, not to tell us how to vote.

Again, I go back to if he had said that talking to Whoopi was "against his beliefs" he would be crucified by everyone on the left and most on the right. Some from the right might have agreed with him, but no one would be actively defending him. Here, we have about 25% (ok, made up number) that are defending his actions as the right thing to do. Hey, people, he doesn't even want to talk to her. He's selling a product, but he doesn't even want to talk to someone who disagrees with him. Could you see Coke or Pepsi saying to the DNC or the RNC "no, we aren't going to sell you are products because we don't like your message"? Don't we have enough racism/sexism/religionism, etc. that we don't have to create another?

In addition, he is a public figure. His message is that the words - not the actions, but the words - from conservatives is "dangerous". He should have the right to segregate himself from her. Please. So should everyone who has any leanings to the right, should we all just be marched off to special places now? Or wait for the films that show how we aren't really human, how our IQ is so much lower, how we have to be taken care of properly for our own good?
 
This is exactly why I don't like political discussions anymore. There's no happy medium anymore, no more intelligent discussion, no agreeing to disagree, no respect for opposing opinions. I am very tired of being labeled as dangerous, narrow-minded, uncompassionate, bigotted, evil, etc... just because I happend to be a conservative. Hey, here's an idea...Have a conversation with me...get to know ME, before you put all these labels on me. And I hate equally, my conservative brethren who label liberals as commie pinkos, whackos, etc... Elisabeth Hasselbeck is not dangerous, or crazy. She's just someone with an opinion that opposes a lot of other people. Big deal. I don't spend my time editing my friends according to their political beliefs. Heck, I disagree with a lot of what Rosie used to say, but I still think she'd be a kick to hang out with. Same with Whoopi. There's a lot more to me than my party affiliation. Unlike a lot of people in this world, today, I am able to see past the differences and see things I like and want to get to know better. This is a free country, and that freedom extends to me, to Rosie, to Elisabeth, to Barry, to you, and to everybody. I don't want people to censor me simply because someone doesn't believe in what I say, and I certainly don't want to censor anyone else. That's the price you pay for all this freedom.

Can't we all just get along?? I'm all for a round of "Kumbaya"...who's with me???

Amy
I don't understand why when an opinion is stated that we (i) think Hasselbeck has "dangerous" views (for supporting a war that is killing 30 soldiers a month & wasting 30 Billion (with a B) dollars a month). That this is an "attack" on those who support the war.

85% of the country think you are wrong. We also think you have a right to state your opinion.

NOW many of POTUS supporters seem to say "i don't want to discuss this anymore" or it's no "big deal".... & i think this is because there isn't any rational reason to defend a failed policy (or lack of policy) at this point & most people find it hard to admit that a mistake was made.

There are many of us who do think that the current situation is a "big deal" & that Hasselback being a mouthpiece for the 15% who still support the POTUS's failed policy "is a big deal" & if she is allowed to be "the other viewpoint" on a policy that has happened to be DEAD WRONG every step of the way, then those of us in the MIDDLE are going to call her on it.

If she (or those who agree with her opinions) wants to suggest that they are being attacked - when a political view is merely being expressed, so be it. IMO, it's downright Rovian to exclaim "How dare you attack me by disagreeing with me".

It's just a shame that the current 85% who are currently against the occupation didn't come to their senses 4 years ago. & demand that we finish the job in Afganistan (with OBL's head on a stick) prior to contemplating the invasion of a soveriegn country that had no Al Qaida within their borders. Then we could indeed sit around the campfire and sing Kumbaya.

& I wouldn't ever label anyone as "Conservative".. who supports an administration that has embarked on serious foreign entanglements, record setting defecit spending, & the historic suspension of individual rights. That is not conservative thought or action.....& I don't care what Hesselmouthpiece says she is.
 
That is just it though. He isn't afraid to join the group, he just feels it would be "against his beliefs" to have Elizabeth as part of the discussion. Excuse me? He's there to spin his album, not to tell us how to vote.

Again, I go back to if he had said that talking to Whoopi was "against his beliefs" he would be crucified by everyone on the left and most on the right. Some from the right might have agreed with him, but no one would be actively defending him. Here, we have about 25% (ok, made up number) that are defending his actions as the right thing to do. Hey, people, he doesn't even want to talk to her. He's selling a product, but he doesn't even want to talk to someone who disagrees with him. Could you see Coke or Pepsi saying to the DNC or the RNC "no, we aren't going to sell you are products because we don't like your message"? Don't we have enough racism/sexism/religionism, etc. that we don't have to create another?

In addition, he is a public figure. His message is that the words - not the actions, but the words - from conservatives is "dangerous". He should have the right to segregate himself from her. Please. So should everyone who has any leanings to the right, should we all just be marched off to special places now? Or wait for the films that show how we aren't really human, how our IQ is so much lower, how we have to be taken care of properly for our own good?

His message is he's got better things to do & he'd rather not listen to Hesselback. He also got alot of free press on this.

(& seriously :) neither one of us would want to go on the view either. )

"Leaners to the right" & even folks who walk around leaning at a 90 degree angle are plenty smart. Even the ones who are dumb.....are dumb like a fox.

Moderates like me have one hand on our wallets (protecting it from the Dems) & one hand on our freedoms (protecting it from the GOP).
 
His message is he's got better things to do & he'd rather not listen to Hesselback. He also got alot of free press on this.
If that had truly been his message, my response would have been more power to him. But it wasn't. It was that he didn't want to have a specific person talk to him about his album because she was "dangerous", because it would go "against his beliefs".

I agree that you and I wouldn't want to go on the View, but he is a public figure (sorta ;) ) and his making about how someone thinks is just wrong. It matches in line with a lot of the sentiments that conservatives heard in 2004, about how we only just follow party line, we don't think for ourselves, etc, etc, etc. On Moveon.org, there was one poster who felt that all Republicans should lose their right to vote because we just didn't know what we did, like we were poor unthinking animals. Makes me wonder if Barry might have been that poster...
 
Im still not getting the posts saying the guy is scared of EH. He does not like her, my guess a combination of her politics and the fact he feels she wronged his friend. He asked not to be interviewed by her cause of that, not cause hes scared of her. Where does the scared come from? I dont want to be around people that I feel have wronged my friends either, that doesnt mean im scared of them.

This is a little deal being made into a big deal for no reason other than people bashing each others politics
 





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