Bargains

[crisi]

If Disney did not want points rented, and if they felt that renters were not taking good care of the property, they would simply enforce room repair charges for wear and tear beyond what is normally expected. Spill beer on the carpet, get charged for cleaning. Put cigarettes holes in the couch, get charged. Smoke in a non-smoking room, charge. Missing towels, charge. Two year old "re-decorates" with crayon on the walls, charge.

This would have a two fold effect - members who don't take care of the rooms currently either would - or the dues of the many would stop paying for the abuses of the few - and, people would think twice about renting points to strangers if they risked getting a bill at the end of the stay.

I don't know that renters treat the rooms any worse than members. Certainly, a members college age kids staying on Daddy's points can do as much damage to a room as a commando family who is never is the room.

 

[d-r]

Originally posted by Mojomanny

Poly is a nice resort at a great location. It is not of the same caliber as a DVC Resort.

You are absolutely right. The rooms at the polly are much, much bigger than a studio at a dvc resort. Not only do you get maid service daily staying at the polly, you get turn down service in the evening. Bathrooms at the polly are much, much larger than those in a dvc studio. The polly is on the monorail. You can have a magic kingdom view. You have bathrobes in your room. You are correct, they are not in the same caliber; the polly is considered a "Deluxe" the dvc's are considered a "home away from home." Some people prefer the feel of one, other people prefer the other.

DR

 

[DBorges]

THE POLY IS NOT DVC..

The rooms are smaller unless you get a studio..

the location maybe better for some but at the poly can you see epcot.

Also we are talking resorts BWv or BCv are not even remortly close to the poly nor is the poly even in the same playing feild as them..

We need to keep this real..

The question was refering to points and chaging money and what was fair and unfair

I personal think it is up to the renter.. set a price and see if it goes..

But when some owner sells for 4-8 dollars it is harder for a user that may lose his points due to banking rules for 10.00 which is very fair

If you want bargin disney stay at all sports if you want to stay in a Home away from rent a 1 or 2 bedroom and pay the price for what your getting..


Anyways the points should be a members thing not a renter thing ..


the owners make the res so all they need to know is your week at BWv in your one bedroom will be x amount ..


As for renters wrecking it or causing damage that is not the owner fault and responabilty it falls on the person or persons in the room..


When i rent points I make it a point to tell reservations that i am doing this for someoneelse and They make the res in that persons name not mine..

POOF problems solved


By the way

7Days till the MEMBERS ONLY CRUISE ON WONDER

I can not wait YIPPY

 

[theterms]

I'm new at renting also. Haven't done so yet, but looking forward to it this year.

I think that pretty much anything in life is negotiable - IF it's done in the right way. I assumed that this was acceptable practice, as I've seen posts on this board which gave that impression. I wouldn't take it personally if an owner declined to lower their rental price, it is their right as an owner. I hope to be in their shoes one day!

I believe that renting points is a fabulous way for non-members to stay at a beautiful resort at a fantastic price. We've stayed at some great on-site resorts (WL & AKL), but due to a spouse back in college full-time and down to one income, our vacation funds have been cut back.

I have been put on a couple wait lists for renting at between $7 & $9 per point, and assumed that when points are due to expire (as in these cases), members are more willing to let them go at a lower price. If I offend anyone for this assumption, I sincerely apologize.

That's all!

 

[ripleysmom]

"All the non owers are most of the negitive post here .."

Okay then here is a negative owner post. I hate reading these threads.

If I ever rent my points it will be for what I want it to be. I think $10 a point is too high except for certain times of the year and then that is on a studio.


"But when some owner sells for 4-8 dollars it is harder for a user that may lose his points due to banking rules for 10.00 which is very fair"

Too bad. Life's not fair.

If that is what I want to rent my points for then I suggest that the person who is about to lose their points get their heads out of their butts and realize that they'll need to come down in price in order to be able to realize some compensation for the maintenance on those about to be lost points.


I also have to say that I think one of the worst things I have ever read on these boards is when I read about DVC owners harassing another owner by PM for renting their points too low. How dare anyone interfere like that?

 

[dvcbud48]

I think enough is enough about this subject. Move on with your life and do with it what YOU want to do. Don't let what other people do bother you so much. In other words, quit being a second grade baby!

It's time to quit beating a DEAD HORSE!

 

[KLR-wlv]

There are times when $10 a point ends up being higher than renting cash from DVD (ie HH in the winter)...I'm an owner who has rented and I wouldn't pay any higher than 10 because you have to pay months in advance with widely varying cancellation policies and there is the trust issue that doesn't exist with a cash ressie from CRO. Yes it's a discount, but it should be when all things are considered. If I ever had enough points left over, I'd be perfectly happy with $10 pp

 

[CaptainMidnight]

Maybe some of the perceived problems with renters could be resolved with a little education by the owners before they rent. Like making sure the renter has the correct sized unit before making the reservation for them. And filling them in on the trash disposal. And reminding them that if there is any damage to the unit, they will be held responsible. Things like that. Would that be tough to do?

This is a great idea, personally I've never rented anything without signing a rental agreement outlining expectations and rules. Maybe an informal flyer available to those renting points explaining some of the perks of renting (bike and boat plan, discounts, etc., resort perks) along with the expectations re: trash and towel day, etc. could be passed around as an education tool for both. Does anyone use anything like this when renting? Just an idea that could maybe help.

 

[jillhou]

Originally posted by DBorges
THE POLY IS NOT DVC..

The rooms are smaller unless you get a studio..

the location maybe better for some but at the poly can you see epcot.

Also we are talking resorts BWv or BCv are not even remortly close to the poly nor is the poly even in the same playing feild as them..

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If the resorts are not comparable ---- why oh why does it cost so much more in points to stay at the Poly?

 

[luvindisneyworld]

our points are for DVC RESORTS not for the poly that is why we bought into DVC is the home away from home resorts.that is why it is so many points to stay at the POLY because it is not a DVC resort.
misty

 

[WDWguru]

When a DVC member uses points to stay at a non-DVC resort, it's treated as a trade-out. We're essentially trading a theoretical DVC reservation to Disney for their room, then Disney can rent that DVC room through their regular CRO pool. The rates are negotiated and can/do go up, unlike the points at the DVC resorts. It's basically done as a convenience to owners so that we can still stay at other on-property resorts if we choose, but it does cost a premium. It is always the best value to stay at a DVC property. That's why it makes no sense for someone to rent to stay anywhere except a DVC property. Renting makes sense if you want the extra space and ammenities of a DVC room (or are looking at an expensive on-property) but don't want to pay Disney's prices for the room.

 

[stlrod]

As an owner, I am a little embarassed by some (not all or even most) of the comments made in this thread. While there is nothing wrong with pride in ownership, there is also no need to slam individuals or families who stay at All-Stars, offsite or anywhere else. Frankly, it's not very Walt-like. I have rented my points for $10 per point and purchased lodging through Central Reservations for as low as $4.12 per point (and it was over Christmas and New Year's). There is absolutely nothing wrong with someone asking whether an owner would be willing to rent points for less (provided it is done politely.) As a previous poster explained, all the owner had to do is say "no." Or as a DVC cast member wanna-be should say, "no, thanks."

 

[ncligs]

Originally posted by dvcbud48
Move on with your life and do with it what YOU want to do. Don't let what other people do bother you so much. In other words, quit being a second grade baby!

dvcbud....welcome to the "DIS"......and very good 1st post!!

 

[dvcbud48]

Thank you ncligs....

After reading all of these post I am still glad to be a DVC member.

I'm sorry to have to have a 1st post like I did but I was tired of reading all of the "negative" feedback on renting points.

I guess some people on this board have never tried to get a good deal for themselves........a new car, a new home, etc.

 

[AEN]

Somebody may have said this already so I appologize for repeating, but, if we don't use our points or go to other facilities (i.e. not DVC), doesn't DVC use our points and sell them to other people, not DVCers? If so, isn't that similar to renting. Except DVC is doing it and not us. In that situation I guess that would reduce the maint. pot and everybody would benefit, whereas if I were to rent, I would benefit. This still is a capitalistic market, isn't it?

Finally, I believe the contract has a small area about not renting and I asked my rep. about it, and she said that it doesn't mean that you are precluded from renting your points to others. I will get you the exact section.

I too am still happy to be a DVCer, even with the negative comments.

 

[CaptainMidnight]

Finally, I believe the contract has a small area about not renting and I asked my rep. about it, and she said that it doesn't mean that you are precluded from renting your points to others. I will get you the exact section.

More information on this would be helpful, I thought I read earlier in this thread that there aren't any limitations on renting in the contract.

 

[AEN]

I have to read my agreement. I was reading through a section last night (section 20) which indicated that it is to be used by the "Purchaser, friends, family..." and not to be used as a business or for profit. I am sure that some of the agreements were designed different. I will get more information and be more concise.

Sorry for the ambiguity.

 

[KandK'smom]

I am one of those people who loves a bargain, but would never ask for one! If the DVCer WANTS to offer his/her points for 8 or 9 dollars a point that is up to him/her and I respect their reasons for doing so. I am not a DVC member myself, so I may be sticking my nose in where it doesn't belong. I have looked into renting twice, couldn't work it out, and am now going to Disney thanks to renting from a wonderful DVC family- thanks Steve if you are reading this . I would never ask to come down on the price of points. I am very aware what a great deal we renters are getting. Selfishly, I hope that renting stays strong so that my friends' families ( and maybe us again one day) can go back. I know that renting is a smart solution for all of you DVCers- but it is we renters who really win out! Thanks!