Barbara Walter's "View" today

[cabanafrau]

Moses was a teenager; Dylan was 7. He was also very, very critical of Allen after when Soon-yi/Woody affair became know. Moses was quoted to wishing Woody dead.



This is true. It's hard to imagine that people you know are capable of such. It seems even Mia Farrow is not immune from that. I've read she defended Roman Polanski (who directed her in Rosemary's Baby, I think?) and her own brother who was convicted of sexually abusing 2 boys last year?

More you read about the people involved, more nuts the whole thing gets.

I'm unaware about the Polanski connection or the circumstances with her brother. The situation with her brother is what would really make me sit up and take notice further. I'll leave it at that.

 

[LisaR]

You do not need to be alone with a child to sexually assault them.

No, you do not, but the allegations in this particular case are that they were alone in an attic. I know nothing about the attic. I associate the word attic with a place for storage although I know some can be converted into living space. I don't think it would be unusual for a 14 y/o to notice his dad and sister disappear into an attic for a period of time. I would also assume Moses was interviewed by the police immediately after the allegations were made so the days events were fresh in his mind. It isn't like they waited six years before asking the boy what happened on that day.

 

[roomthreeseventeen]

No, you do not, but the allegations in this particular case are that they were alone in an attic. I know nothing about the attic. I associate the word attic with a place for storage although I know some can be converted into living space. I don't think it would be unusual for a 14 y/o to notice his dad and sister disappear into an attic for a period of time. I would also assume Moses was interviewed by the police immediately after the allegations were made so the days events were fresh in his mind. It isn't like they waited six years before asking the boy what happened on that day.

I don't know how many 14 year olds you know, but I think most of them are completely oblivious.

 

[Gumbo4x4]

Frank Sinatra is Ronan Farrow's brother-in-law? LOL

Sorry, couldn't resist.

Ever heard the Ray Stevens song, "I Am My Own Grandpa"?

 

[Vidia2]

Ever heard the Ray Stevens song, "I Am My Own Grandpa"?

I wonder if Mia is going to refund to Woody all the child support he's paid for a now adult who turned out not to even be his.

 

[cabanafrau]

I wonder if Mia is going to refund to Woody all the child support he's paid for a now adult who turned out not to even be his.

In the eyes of the law, Woody is the father and therefore the child support was his legal obligation, assuming there was child support, I have no idea.

 

[pryncess527]

I wonder if Mia is going to refund to Woody all the child support he's paid for a now adult who turned out not to even be his.

If he didn't want to pay he always could have asked for a paternity test.

 

[Disneychick75]

Pretty disturbing things in this article about Allen and his relationship with Dylan:
http://poundpuplegacy.org/node/60262

Child abuse investigator on Dylan's statement:
http://thedailybanter.com/2014/02/a...ors-view-of-the-woody-allendylan-farrow-case/

 

[skater]

I don't know how many 14 year olds you know, but I think most of them are completely oblivious.

Absolutely. And unfortunately, abuse happens under the nose of family members all the time - in private and right in front of them. I don't think any of us can know for sure what really happened.

 

[Vidia2]

If he didn't want to pay he always could have asked for a paternity test.

He should do that now and make the results public. If Mia Farrow lied to the courts to get child support, it does say something about her credibility. Beyond the lying issue, I'm not really interested in this debate so I'm out.

 

[robinb]

He should do that now and make the results public. If Mia Farrow lied to the courts to get child support, it does say something about her credibility. Beyond the lying issue, I'm not really interested in this debate so I'm out.

Oh for goodness sake! There was no lie to get child support. Even if he turns out to be Frank Sinatra's biological child, Allen accepted him as his own son with Farrow when he was born. That's really all you, or me or the courts really needs to know. To be honest, the fact that Allen is keeping quiet any doubts he might have about Ronan's biological paternity is the only bright spot in this whole thing ... much to the chagrin of Maury Povich I'm sure.

 

[NaLisa]

Oh for goodness sake! There was no lie to get child support. Even if he turns out to be Frank Sinatra's biological child, Allen accepted him as his own son and product of his marriage with Farrow when he was born. That's really all you, or me or the courts really needs to know. To be honest, the fact that Allen is keeping quiet any doubts he might have about Ronan's biological paternity is the only bright spot in this whole thing ... much to the chagrin of Maury Povich I'm sure.

Just to clarify, Woody Allen and Mia Farrow were never married.

 

[LisaR]

I don't know how many 14 year olds you know, but I think most of them are completely oblivious.

Everyone seemed to trust and believe the 14 y/o when he said Woody Allen abused her, but now that he says it didn't happen, he's lumped in with the oblivious teens.

 

[NewRVLady]

Oh for goodness sake! There was no lie to get child support. Even if he turns out to be Frank Sinatra's biological child, Allen accepted him as his own son and product of his marriage with Farrow when he was born. .

First, the Soon-Yi situation:

Every time I stumble upon this topic on the internet, it seems the people who are most outraged are also the most ignorant of the facts. Following are the top ten misconceptions, followed by my response in italics:

#1: Soon-Yi was Woody’s daughter. False.

#2: Soon-Yi was Woody’s step-daughter. False.

#3: Soon-Yi was Woody and Mia’s adopted daughter. False. Soon-Yi was the adopted daughter of Mia Farrow and André Previn. Her full name was Soon-Yi Farrow Previn.

#4: Woody and Mia were married. False.

#5: Woody and Mia lived together. False. Woody lived in his apartment on Fifth Ave. Mia and her kids lived on Central Park West. In fact, Woody never once stayed over night at Mia’s apartment in 12 years.

#6: Woody and Mia had a common-law marriage. False. New York State does not recognize common law marriage. Even in states that do, a couple has to cohabitate for a certain number of years.

#7: Soon-Yi viewed Woody as a father figure. False. Soon-Yi saw Woody as her mother’s boyfriend. Her father figure was her adoptive father, André Previn.

#8: Soon-Yi was underage when she and Woody started having relations. False. She was either 19 or 21. (Her year of birth in Korea was undocumented, but believed to be either 1970 or ’72.)

#9: Soon-Yi was borderline retarded. Ha! She’s smart as a whip, has a degree from Columbia University and speaks more languages than you.

#10: Woody was grooming Soon-Yi from an early age to be his child bride. Oh, come on! According to court documents and Mia’s own memoir, until 1990 (when Soon-Yi was 18 or 20), Woody “had little to do with any of the Previn children, (but) had the least to do with Soon-Yi” so Mia encouraged him to spend more time with her. Woody started taking her to basketball games, and the rest is tabloid history. So he hardly “had his eye on her” from the time she was a child.

 

[robinb]

Just to clarify, Woody Allen and Mia Farrow were never married.

Whoops! You're right. I'll edit. FWIW, I knew that before the pro-Allen spin NewRVLady regurgitated. I just had a brain fart.

 

[cabanafrau]

First, the Soon-Yi situation:

Every time I stumble upon this topic on the internet, it seems the people who are most outraged are also the most ignorant of the facts. Following are the top ten misconceptions, followed by my response in italics:

#1: Soon-Yi was Woody’s daughter. False.

#2: Soon-Yi was Woody’s step-daughter. False.

#3: Soon-Yi was Woody and Mia’s adopted daughter. False. Soon-Yi was the adopted daughter of Mia Farrow and André Previn. Her full name was Soon-Yi Farrow Previn.

#4: Woody and Mia were married. False.

#5: Woody and Mia lived together. False. Woody lived in his apartment on Fifth Ave. Mia and her kids lived on Central Park West. In fact, Woody never once stayed over night at Mia’s apartment in 12 years.

#6: Woody and Mia had a common-law marriage. False. New York State does not recognize common law marriage. Even in states that do, a couple has to cohabitate for a certain number of years.

#7: Soon-Yi viewed Woody as a father figure. False. Soon-Yi saw Woody as her mother’s boyfriend. Her father figure was her adoptive father, André Previn.

#8: Soon-Yi was underage when she and Woody started having relations. False. She was either 19 or 21. (Her year of birth in Korea was undocumented, but believed to be either 1970 or ’72.)

#9: Soon-Yi was borderline retarded. Ha! She’s smart as a whip, has a degree from Columbia University and speaks more languages than you.

#10: Woody was grooming Soon-Yi from an early age to be his child bride. Oh, come on! According to court documents and Mia’s own memoir, until 1990 (when Soon-Yi was 18 or 20), Woody “had little to do with any of the Previn children, (but) had the least to do with Soon-Yi” so Mia encouraged him to spend more time with her. Woody started taking her to basketball games, and the rest is tabloid history. So he hardly “had his eye on her” from the time she was a child.

With all due respect, you are not very well informed about how pedophiles go about grooming. They are focused and will play the long game if necessary. Grooming isn't limited to the victim themself.

This is a very thorny issue that leaves a tremendous amount of destruction in its wake. Woody Allen faces no legal repercussions, so why the need for everyone to rush to his defense? If he didn't do it, how horrendous to have so many believe this. If he did, he not only got away scot free, his victim has to live with the aftermath AND so many people denouncing her experience. I'll stake my opinions on my experience with this issue and risk erring on the side of a potential victim.

 

[RadioNate]

Weide is that you? I'll answer in RED to be clear AGAIN.

First, the Soon-Yi situation:

Every time I stumble upon this topic on the internet, it seems the people who are most outraged are also the most ignorant of the facts. Following are the top ten misconceptions, followed by my response in italics:

#1: Soon-Yi was Woody’s daughter. False.

I know this. I'm fairly certain everyone realizes this.

#2: Soon-Yi was Woody’s step-daughter. False.

Technically no, but as the daughter of his long term partner…a woman he shared both biological and adopted children with she IS his children's sister.

#3: Soon-Yi was Woody and Mia’s adopted daughter. False. Soon-Yi was the adopted daughter of Mia Farrow and André Previn. Her full name was Soon-Yi Farrow Previn.

Yes, we know. However see my reply to #2

#4: Woody and Mia were married. False.

Irrelevant. To me. Honestly, doesn't matter, they were in a long term relationship that produced children. The legal status doesn't change the situation in my mind at all.

#5: Woody and Mia lived together. False. Woody lived in his apartment on Fifth Ave. Mia and her kids lived on Central Park West. In fact, Woody never once stayed over night at Mia’s apartment in 12 years.

Seems fishy and while he may have never stayed overnight at the apartment he did stay over night at the CT home (where the abuse reportedly happened.) I would assume that in 12 years there would be vacations or events or that Mia and/or the kids MAY have stayed at Woody's apartment. This just seems like a twisting of facts to fit Weide's defense of Allen.

#6: Woody and Mia had a common-law marriage. False. New York State does not recognize common law marriage. Even in states that do, a couple has to cohabitate for a certain number of years.

Don't care. Again. The legal status of "married" to me is totally and completely irrelevant. The world knew they were a couple, they were in a long term relationship that produced children. I don't care what their legal status.

#7: Soon-Yi viewed Woody as a father figure. False. Soon-Yi saw Woody as her mother’s boyfriend. Her father figure was her adoptive father, André Previn.

So she saw him as her mother's boyfriend…UMMMM hooking up with your mother's boyfriend = boundary crossing and inappropriate. Having an affair with your girlfriend's daughter also shows ZERO regard for boundaries and is totally inappropriate. Weak defense. In fact it just removes the "incest" factor while still painting Allen as a jerk because who has an affair with their girlfriend's daughter? The sister of his children??? Inappropriate.

#8: Soon-Yi was underage when she and Woody started having relations. False. She was either 19 or 21. (Her year of birth in Korea was undocumented, but believed to be either 1970 or ’72.)

So? The date they had sex is irrelevant. He knew her since childhood, he was decades older than her and he was still her mother's boyfriend and father to her siblings.

#9: Soon-Yi was borderline retarded. Ha! She’s smart as a whip, has a degree from Columbia University and speaks more languages than you.

I've never heard anything about this either way.

#10: Woody was grooming Soon-Yi from an early age to be his child bride. Oh, come on! According to court documents and Mia’s own memoir, until 1990 (when Soon-Yi was 18 or 20), Woody “had little to do with any of the Previn children, (but) had the least to do with Soon-Yi” so Mia encouraged him to spend more time with her. Woody started taking her to basketball games, and the rest is tabloid history. So he hardly “had his eye on her” from the time she was a child.

So? I'll go back to my mantra of hooking up with your girlfriend's daughter, the sister of your children is WRONG and inappropriate. Yes, let's blame Mia for wanting her boyfriend, a man she had young children with, to know her other children. For them to operate as one family. I'm pretty sure she didn't think he'd start an affair with her because YOU DON'T SLEEP WITH YOUR GIRLFRIEND'S DAUGHTER. Boundaries, Woody Allen has none.

 

[jrmasm]

Everyone seemed to trust and believe the 14 y/o when he said Woody Allen abused her, but now that he says it didn't happen, he's lumped in with the oblivious teens.

Unless he was a witness to abuse, I dont' think what he thinks happened is relelevant to anything. Only Dylan and Woody know what happened.

 

[cabanafrau]

It just struck me as kind of ironic that so many of those who are so fervently defending Woody Allen are also vociferously intent on framing his pre-marital relationship to Soon Yi in increasingly distant terms. I wonder why that is so important?

 

[luvsJack]

First, the Soon-Yi situation:

Every time I stumble upon this topic on the internet, it seems the people who are most outraged are also the most ignorant of the facts. Following are the top ten misconceptions, followed by my response in italics:

#1: Soon-Yi was Woody’s daughter. False.

#2: Soon-Yi was Woody’s step-daughter. False.

#3: Soon-Yi was Woody and Mia’s adopted daughter. False. Soon-Yi was the adopted daughter of Mia Farrow and André Previn. Her full name was Soon-Yi Farrow Previn.

#4: Woody and Mia were married. False.

#5: Woody and Mia lived together. False. Woody lived in his apartment on Fifth Ave. Mia and her kids lived on Central Park West. In fact, Woody never once stayed over night at Mia’s apartment in 12 years.

#6: Woody and Mia had a common-law marriage. False. New York State does not recognize common law marriage. Even in states that do, a couple has to cohabitate for a certain number of years.

#7: Soon-Yi viewed Woody as a father figure. False. Soon-Yi saw Woody as her mother’s boyfriend. Her father figure was her adoptive father, André Previn.

#8: Soon-Yi was underage when she and Woody started having relations. False. She was either 19 or 21. (Her year of birth in Korea was undocumented, but believed to be either 1970 or ’72.)

#9: Soon-Yi was borderline retarded. Ha! She’s smart as a whip, has a degree from Columbia University and speaks more languages than you.

#10: Woody was grooming Soon-Yi from an early age to be his child bride. Oh, come on! According to court documents and Mia’s own memoir, until 1990 (when Soon-Yi was 18 or 20), Woody “had little to do with any of the Previn children, (but) had the least to do with Soon-Yi” so Mia encouraged him to spend more time with her. Woody started taking her to basketball games, and the rest is tabloid history. So he hardly “had his eye on her” from the time she was a child.

How on earth do you know on #5 and #8? Or how does anyone know these things? Because Woody said so?