Barbara Walter's "View" today

[Geoff_M]

As a lawyer, surely you know that photos are copyrighted and licensed by the photographer who took the photos, or by the movie studio they were shot for. They do not belong to the subject in the photos. Since the photos in the montage were of Mia in films with Woody, they belong to the movie studio. When she signed her legal contract to work on the film, she signed her rights to her likeness in all film and photo footage pertaining to the movie. The Golden Globes would not have to ask for her permission. It was never hers to give.

Per Screen Actors Guild rules, she was required to give her permission. She did. From the same link from Lorelei:

My more recent professional association with Woody took place last month, when I was asked to work on the Allen clip montage for the Golden Globes. The montage editor, Nicholas Goodman, and I wanted to include a brief moment from The Purple Rose of Cairo, in which Mia appeared. The producers were concerned about whether she would sign a release for the clip. (The Screen Actors Guild maintains very strict rules about obtaining authorization from any actor who appears in a clip excised for compilations.) I thought it unlikely that Mia would object, as I had obtained a signed release for my documentary, in which she granted permission for her appearance in many lengthy clips from several Allen films. At the time, I was extremely grateful for her cooperation, for without it, I would have had a 12-year gap in my film, and Mia would have been extremely conspicuous by her absence. I even took it as a possible sign that 20 years after the fact, perhaps the healing process had begun to take hold. As a further sign of good will, Mia agreed to the use of her “Purple Rose” clip in the Golden Globe montage. The producers of the show were grateful. Everyone agreed it would have been a shame not to acknowledge Mia’s contribution to so many of Allen’s best films.

At the ceremony in Beverly Hills, actress Emma Stone, having just worked with Woody on his latest film Magic in the Moonlight, introduced the montage, followed by Diane Keaton’s surrogate acceptance speech, which was typically sentimental, loopy, and very Keatonesque. Woody, who would have never stopped throwing up had he been there, was instead in New York at the Stephen Sondheim Theatre for the opening of Beautiful: The Carole King Musical, whose book was written by Woody’s friend Doug McGrath. Woody had already told me that if the show let out early enough, he was hoping to get home in time to catch the last quarter of the football playoffs.

Apparently, Mia and Ronan assigned more significance to the festivities than did Woody, seeing the televised occasion as a perfect opportunity to bring him down a few pegs. The first of Mia’s tweets, issued as the Woody segment commenced, was restrained and kind of cute: “Time to grab some icecream & switch over to #GIRLS.” I smiled when I read it, and thought, “Why not? You already saw the montage when you approved the use of your clip.” Her second tweet, referencing the recent Vanity Fair article, was nastier: “A woman has publicly detailed Woody Allen’s molestation of her at age 7. GoldenGlobe tribute showed contempt for her & all abuse survivors.”

This one puzzled me. I thought it was odd to say the Globe tribute showed contempt for abuse survivors when Mia willfully participated in the festivities by expressly agreeing to the use of her clip, when she had every opportunity to decline. She certainly wasn’t pressured, and we had an alternative version of the montage (sans Mia) all ready to go in case she passed. It seemed Mia either wanted it both ways, or simply assumed no one would ever learn that she was complicit in the tribute. By the time I saw her third tweet, asking, “Is he a pedophile?” and linking to the Vanity Fair article, my most charitable thought was that this woman needs to get over herself.

 

[Lorelei Lee]

And why would she care? I'm confused.

Darfur or page 6?

Quiet life or front page?

Such difficult, agonizing choices. Insert intense sarcasm.

Mia's profession is "actress". Best known for Rosemary's Baby, The Purple Rose of Cairo, Hannah and Her Sisters and The Great Gatsby. (Some might even say her best work was in the movies she did with Woody.)

Anyone note her performance in 2011's Dark Horse? Or in 2008's Be Kind Rewind? Perhaps Luc Besson's Arthur series (2006–2010)? Though she did get critical acclaim for her work in 2006's The Omen.

Didn't think so.

Meryl Streep and Helen Mirren and Judy Densch seem to have a lock on the :Older woman" parts in Hollywood.

But Mia doesn't exactly have the "quiet life" you think she has.

She's been an activist since 2000, working in Africa and elsewhere. But she's also been an actress all that time as well, though not nearly as successfully.

 

[RadioNate]

Let's be clear on the timeline of events here:

Ronan tweet triggered by the Golden Globe Awards (1/12)
Mia's tweet referencing the Golden Globes Award (1/13)
Weide's Daily Beast Article (1/27)
Dylan's Letter (2/1)

This is important to me because Dylan was living quietly under an assumed name (which Weide outed) until Weide decided to write his piece. I don't feel like Ronan was pot stirring because he was just expressing feelings about his father. Why did Weide even feel the need to get involved to defend Woody Allen?

ETA - Ronan has been taking pot shots at Woody Allen for ages on twitter. It is CLEAR that he has zero respect for the man between his marriage to Soon-Yi and alleged abuse of Dylan.

Bill Weide seems to be the one to stir this all up into the frenzy it is now.

 

[Laura66]

Mia's profession is "actress". Best known for Rosemary's Baby, The Purple Rose of Cairo, Hannah and Her Sisters and The Great Gatsby. (Some might even say her best work was in the movies she did with Woody.)

Anyone note her performance in 2011's Dark Horse? Or in 2008's Be Kind Rewind? Perhaps Luc Besson's Arthur series (2006–2010)? Though she did get critical acclaim for her work in 2006's The Omen.

Didn't think so.

Meryl Streep and Helen Mirren and Judy Densch seem to have a lock on the :Older woman" parts in Hollywood.

But Mia doesn't exactly have the "quiet life" you think she has.

She's been an activist since 2000, working in Africa and elsewhere. But she's also been an actress all that time as well, though not nearly as successfully.

What's your point? It "seems" as though you are trying to infer - that because she isn't as "popular" at the moment as the other actresses are that she using the abuse to make news?

If you aren't - it sure seems as if you are. Which is one of the reasons so many victims and/or advocates of sexual abuse don't come forward!

 

[Geoff_M]

Let's be clear on the timeline of events here:

Updated with additions:
VF Exclusive Article with comments by Farrow and Dylan about the accusation of molestation by Allen (02-Oct-2013)
Ronan & Mia Farrow tweets triggered by the Golden Globe Awards (1/12)
Weide's Daily Beast Article (1/27)
Dylan's Letter (2/1)

Weide did not "out" Dylan... Here's a UK Daily Mail news story about the allegations from 1/13 that mentioned her name in the secondary headline. Google it, and you'll find other references.

 

[RadioNate]

Updated with additions:
VF Exclusive Article with comments by Farrow and Dylan about the accusation of molestation by Allen (02-Oct-2013)
Ronan & Mia Farrow tweets triggered by the Golden Globe Awards (1/12)
Weide's Daily Beast Article (1/27)
Dylan's Letter (2/1)

Weide did not "out" Dylan... Here's a UK Daily Mail news story about the allegations from 1/13 that mentioned her name in the secondary headline. Google it, and you'll find other references.

ok - but the Vanity Fair article didn't get much attention. I hadn't heard about it. I only heard about this after Weide's article. I'm super active on twitter (it is a HUGE part of my job) and I never saw Mia or Ronan's tweets or any reference until Weide's article.

Ok Daily Mail (a tabloid) outed her identity first. I'm not happy either one of them did.

People seem to believe that Weide is responding to Dylan's letter. He's not.

But this debate, that SHE'S been put on trial and pretty much branded a liar (because if Woody is innocent, it means at best Dylan was manipulated by her mother and at worst is a liar - a victim in EITHER case) is exactly why sexual abuse victims don't come forward.

 

[lisaviolet]

Mia's profession is "actress". Best known for Rosemary's Baby, The Purple Rose of Cairo, Hannah and Her Sisters and The Great Gatsby. (Some might even say her best work was in the movies she did with Woody.)

Anyone note her performance in 2011's Dark Horse? Or in 2008's Be Kind Rewind? Perhaps Luc Besson's Arthur series (2006–2010)? Though she did get critical acclaim for her work in 2006's The Omen.

Didn't think so.

Meryl Streep and Helen Mirren and Judy Densch seem to have a lock on the :Older woman" parts in Hollywood.

But Mia doesn't exactly have the "quiet life" you think she has.

She's been an activist since 2000, working in Africa and elsewhere. But she's also been an actress all that time as well, though not nearly as successfully.

I said Dafur or page 6? So I'm a little confused why you're stating her activism. (Honestly, no sarcasm)

I'm truly trying to understand what your point is? She's not successful, in your eyes; therefore, she is jealous of Woody and causing problems.

And all that had nothing to do with what I meant about a quiet life anyway Lorelei. Many actors/actresses live very quiet lives, even at the highest levels of professional success.

Quiet life meant not attempting to push yourself into the media (or care about page 6 or the front page). Honestly, her and Woody seem to have that in common. Understanding that their private lives need the balance and privacy.

 

[NewRVLady]

Updated with additions:
VF Exclusive Article with comments by Farrow and Dylan about the accusation of molestation by Allen (02-Oct-2013)
Ronan & Mia Farrow tweets triggered by the Golden Globe Awards (1/12)
Weide's Daily Beast Article (1/27)
Dylan's Letter (2/1)

Weide did not "out" Dylan... Here's a UK Daily Mail news story about the allegations from 1/13 that mentioned her name in the secondary headline. Google it, and you'll find other references.

Also in the article-Mia's Tweet names her daughter as Malone in 2012
Isnt Twitter's purpose for fans to follow you?(I don't twitter)

 

[Geoff_M]

ok - but the Vanity Fair article didn't get much attention. I hadn't heard about it.

I remember when it came out, and you'll be shocked... but it's not a magazine I follow!

People seem to believe that Weide is responding to Dylan's letter. He's not.

How so? If you read his piece the person whose actions and deeds he primarily responds to is Mia Farrow.

But this debate, that SHE'S been put on trial and pretty much branded a liar (because if Woody is innocent, it means at best Dylan was manipulated by her mother and at worst is a liar - a victim in EITHER case) is exactly why sexual abuse victims don't come forward.

We can agree that she is a victim in all of this, but the only question is the source. I have no idea if Allen is innocent or guilty. But it's incorrect to try and say that if he is innocent then she must be branded a liar. The same goes for Mia Farrow. If it turns out that this similar to the preschool molestation cases I pointed to earlier, false memories often aren't created with willful intent.

 

[Geoff_M]

Also in the article-Mia's Tweet names her daughter as Malone in 2012
Isnt Twitter's purpose for fans to follow you?(I don't twitter)

Funny, I missed that! At least in the article the tabloid had the decency to blot out her face.

 

[Lorelei Lee]

I don't think Mia is an evil person, but she's not entirely innocent, and I do think she's irrational when it comes to Woody.

And I don't think Woody is a particularly honorable or upstanding person, but I don't think he's evil incarnate.

I feel bad for Dylan, because she truly believes she was victimized.

but the timing of all of this is NOT a coincidence.

 

[robinb]

People seem to believe that Weide is responding to Dylan's letter. He's not.

But this debate, that SHE'S been put on trial and pretty much branded a liar (because if Woody is innocent, it means at best Dylan was manipulated by her mother and at worst is a liar - a victim in EITHER case) is exactly why sexual abuse victims don't come forward.

Both of those points are very true.

 

[Laura66]

I don't think Mia is an evil person, but she's not entirely innocent, and I do think she's irrational when it comes to Woody.

And I don't think Woody is a particularly honorable or upstanding person, but I don't think he's evil incarnate.

I feel bad for Dylan, because she truly believes she was victimized.

but the timing of all of this is NOT a coincidence.

How in the world do you know these things to be true! Unbelievable!!!! Were you there???? Were you with her every moment to know she wasn't victimized!

And so what if this came out - again now. Do you know how maddening it is to hear people heap compliments and praise on someone who abused you sexually! Well I do and it's heartbreaking and infuriating! I kept quiet for the longest time to keep the peace and not upset other people - and because I knew there were people like you - who victimize us all over again! I admire her mother for fighting for her daughter and Dylan, for speaking out so others who have been abused feel they can!

 

[Goofyluver]

I don't think Mia is an evil person, but she's not entirely innocent, and I do think she's irrational when it comes to Woody.

And I don't think Woody is a particularly honorable or upstanding person, but I don't think he's evil incarnate.

I feel bad for Dylan, because she truly believes she was victimized.

but the timing of all of this is NOT a coincidence.

On the contrary, I find it completely rational to be out of your mind livid with your ex-lover/significant other/child's father who goes on to marry your daughter. And that's excluding the allegations (which I wholeheartedly believe) from Mia's other child.

 

[Disneychick75]

I don't think Mia is an evil person, but she's not entirely innocent, and I do think she's irrational when it comes to Woody.

And I don't think Woody is a particularly honorable or upstanding person, but I don't think he's evil incarnate.

I feel bad for Dylan, because she truly believes she was victimized.

but the timing of all of this is NOT a coincidence.

If I found naked pictures of my daughter in my lover's apartment, I'd be livid too. It's not a thing that would be easy to get over.

Dylan said she was victimized. Allen says he didn't do it yet we know he went after his lover's daughter and had an affair with her.

 

[denisem]

I don't think Mia is an evil person, but she's not entirely innocent, and I do think she's irrational when it comes to Woody.

And I don't think Woody is a particularly honorable or upstanding person, but I don't think he's evil incarnate.

I feel bad for Dylan, because she truly believes she was victimized.

but the timing of all of this is NOT a coincidence.

Perhaps because it reawakened her experience? Is that a possibility?

(Oh, and while not an attorney, I have had lifelong experiences with several attorneys and judges, and have found their findings...human. They are not infallible.)

 

[PaulaSB12]

On the contrary, I find it completely rational to be out of your mind livid with your ex-lover/significant other/child's father who goes on to marry your daughter. And that's excluding the allegations (which I wholeheartedly believe) from Mia's other child.

Exactly what sort of man dates his son's sister, she isn't biologically related to Woody but she is his sons adopted sister. That makes him his son's brother in law the sister is now his step mother and his nieces his sisters!

 

[NewRVLady]

Exactly what sort of man dates his son's sister, she isn't biologically related to Woody but she is his sons adopted sister. That makes him his son's brother in law the sister is now his step mother and his nieces his sisters!

What people don't remember is Mia has 13 children-biological and adopted in a large age span. I don't know if the older ones even lived with the younger ones as siblings.
I thought it odd When Mia married Frank Sinatra at 20,and he was 50, and her life continued to have crazy twists and turns.
I always thought she was a bit off and can see her giving Dylan False Memory syndrome as payback to what Woody did to her.

 

[RadioNate]

What people don't remember is Mia has 13 children-biological and adopted in a large age span. I don't know if the older ones even lived with the younger ones as siblings.
I thought it odd When Mia married Frank Sinatra at 20,and he was 50, and her life continued to have crazy twists and turns.
I always thought she was a bit off and can see her giving Dylan False Memory syndrome as payback to what Woody did to her.

No I remember that. It is still inappropriate to have an affair with your son's sister, the daughter of your current partner. I don't care if they are adopted, half siblings, 20 years apart or ever lived in the same house. It is still TOTALLY MESSED UP and shows are serious lack of appropriate boundaries on Woody Allens part.

Adults should be able to control themselves and say, this isn't an appropriate relationship. It is the height of selfishness. And it isn't a big leap to think that a selfish person with boundary issues could molest his daughter.

I find it easier to believe that a man with a history of being with young women, who has made a career out of walking that line (Manhattan, his stand-up routines) and who himself was quoted as saying he is "below reproach" when it comes to sex, could have molested his daughter than I do that I mother would plant false memories and victimize her daughter.

 

[sunshinehighway]

No I remember that. It is still inappropriate to have an affair with your son's sister, the daughter of your current partner. I don't care if they are adopted, half siblings, 20 years apart or ever lived in the same house. It is still TOTALLY MESSED UP and shows are serious lack of appropriate boundaries on Woody Allens part.

Adults should be able to control themselves and say, this isn't an appropriate relationship. It is the height of selfishness. And it isn't a big leap to think that a selfish person with boundary issues could molest his daughter.

I find it easier to believe that a man with a history of being with young women, who has made a career out of walking that line (Manhattan, his stand-up routines) and who himself was quoted as saying he is "below reproach" when it comes to sex, could have molested his daughter than I do that I mother would plant false memories and victimize her daughter.

Right. The other thing is Soon Yi was an adult when they go married but this is someone he watched grow up. There's something so gross about knowing her throughout her childhood and then dating/marrying her once she becomes an adult.

I am surprised by so many defending him. I have to wonder how many would come to his defense if he were just some guy working at their kids' school instead of Woody Allen.