Barack Obama Attacks Free Speech

[gmboy95]

You can't make me. Or can you??

Nope at about midnight on 11/4-5....you will be silent then...so yes we can MAKE YOU!!!

 

[SwedishMeatball]

There is no version of the truth, it is either the truth, or it is an opinion.

There are also half-truths, in which things are taken out of context and is what a lot of campaign ads are, and both sides have participated in them.

 

[SwedishMeatball]

Nope at about midnight on 11/4-5....you will be silent then...so yes we can MAKE YOU!!!

Are you smokin' some sort of whacky tabacky??

 

[shortbun]

What a waste of my time. The first link doesn't even say what he is doing, just that it's wrong. He didn't want banners at a rally, big deal, Bush wouldn't let people into his rallies until they signed a pledge, people got thrown out for wearing t-shirts that disagreed with Bush. I didn't see any of the above posters complaining about that.

It's all political spin. Barack is doing what he needs to do to protect himself. Wish Kerry would have done more of it, maybe the last 4 years would have be different.

Yes, I was one of the Kerry t-shirt wearing people who were turned away from a Bush appearance here in Ohio. They asked me to sign a pledge just to get tickets and when I appeared with my t-shirt, I was 'escorted' out of the line by two lineman types. I didn't agree with it then and I don't agree with it now but what's good for the goose....

So, since the practice was started by Saint George, whom we all know you guys hold Holy, why the complaining?

 

[Purrrrfecta]

hahahahahahaha....you people kill me. You are so desperate that this relatively young man from chicago with a funny name, and a controversial middle name is about to upset your conservative apple cart!....keep reaching for some scandal you can sink your teeth into, and continue to ignore the issues, Barak will ride your indignation right onto the white house!

There are a few who have become sooo obsessed with going after Obama. They kinda remind me of Sean Hannity. It is like they will die if Obama is elected, and they have to make their point or else..........

 

[rayelias]

What can we guarantee with an Obama Presidency and a veto-proof Congress?

Two words: Fairness Doctrine.

 

[Amirah95]

They kinda remind me of Sean Hannity.

He's totally psycho. I bet he dreams about Obama every night.

 

[SwedishMeatball]

He's totally psycho. I bet he dreams about Obama every night.

Yep, the same way Olberman fantasizes about Bush.

 

[loco4dis]

I don't see anybody being silenced, threatened, or intimidated. They are free to say whatever they want, but if they are spreading lies and presenting them as fact, they will get called on it.

If they aren't lying then they have no reason to feel threatened or intimidated.

Why are you so concerned about protecting liars from being exposed?

When I look at who has posted on this thread and their silence over the similar actions of this administration over the last seven and a half years, the only reaction a sane, rational person can have is to just start laughing hysterically at the alleged sincerity on display in the posts above mine.

What a waste of my time. The first link doesn't even say what he is doing, just that it's wrong. He didn't want banners at a rally, big deal, Bush wouldn't let people into his rallies until they signed a pledge, people got thrown out for wearing t-shirts that disagreed with Bush. I didn't see any of the above posters complaining about that.

It's all political spin. Barack is doing what he needs to do to protect himself. Wish Kerry would have done more of it, maybe the last 4 years would have be different.

hahahahahahaha....you people kill me. You are so desperate that this relatively young man from chicago with a funny name, and a controversial middle name is about to upset your conservative apple cart!....keep reaching for some scandal you can sink your teeth into, and continue to ignore the issues, Barak will ride your indignation right onto the white house!

Well what does "attempt to silence" mean, kinda broad isnt it. And it seems like a phrase with an attempt to incite, but with an easy way out once the full story arises.

If the truth squad was simply protesting with signs that say "shut up, stop lying", would that be an attempt to silence?

Yes, I was one of the Kerry t-shirt wearing people who were turned away from a Bush appearance here in Ohio. They asked me to sign a pledge just to get tickets and when I appeared with my t-shirt, I was 'escorted' out of the line by two lineman types. I didn't agree with it then and I don't agree with it now but what's good for the goose....

So, since the practice was started by Saint George, whom we all know you guys hold Holy, why the complaining?

There are a few who have become sooo obsessed with going after Obama. They kinda remind me of Sean Hannity. It is like they will die if Obama is elected, and they have to make their point or else..........

Okey-dokey, then. We'll put you all down for "I have no defense of Barack Obama's unprecedented assault on free speech, so I'll talk about something else — and if I can, I'll blame George Bush for Barack Obama's unprecedented assault on free speech."

Thanks for participating!

 

[Anewman]

Okey-dokey, then. We'll put you all down for "I have no defense of Barack Obama's unprecedented assault on free speech, so I'll talk about something else — and if I can, I'll blame George Bush for Barack Obama's unprecedented assault on free speech."

Thanks for participating!

And I will put you down on the "can not provide one example of Obamas assault on free speech, but I will repeat it anyways" list.

 

[Bobbysdog]

What can we guarantee with an Obama Presidency and a veto-proof Congress?

Two words: Fairness Doctrine.

Imagine that. Equal time on the public airwaves for the first time in over two decades.

I hope that is indeed one of the very first acts of the new Congress.

 

[crazyforgoofy]

Are you smokin' some sort of whacky tabacky??

Whaaaaa??? You talkin ta me? Huh? Smokin? cough cough Say, got anythin to eat.... O sorry, my mistake. Please carry on.....snooze snore snort.

 

[FayeW]

Okey-dokey, then. We'll put you all down for "I have no defense of Barack Obama's unprecedented assault on free speech, so I'll talk about something else — and if I can, I'll blame George Bush for Barack Obama's unprecedented assault on free speech."

Thanks for participating!

Since you quoted me, maybe you should read my post AGAIN. I didn't have to "defend" it because no "defense" is required.He (or rather his campaign) is not attempting to silence free speech. Every single time one or the other of them says something about the other that is considered to be "untrue" or that they are "twisting the truth" or "taking it out of context" the "victim" refutes it and says "that's not true". What is the difference if it is the candidate, the candidate's campaign, or "concerned citizens/supporters". It's still somebody saying "that's not true. Stop telling lies".

Your comment about "I have no defense of Barack Obama's unprecedented assault on free speech" is just like asking somebody if they still beat their wife. It's an outrageous claim.

 

[LoraJ]

"On Wednesday, Obama’s Missouri campaign announced U.S. Sen. Claire McCaskill would lead a group of Democratic lawmakers, prosecutors and one sheriff “who will be proactive in letting voters in the Show-Me State know the truth in the face of the distortions by the McCain campaign,” according to a news release. . . .

They never said they would invoke their powers, but Republicans say just attaching their law enforcement titles to their names for political reasons gives off a perception of a police state.

. . . But a review of McCain’s own truth squads shows he has a district attorney from New Mexico and the South Carolina attorney general ready to respond to misleading ads from Obama and Democrats in their respective states."

http://www.news-leader.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080927/BLOGS09/80927018

 

[Pin Wizard]

Today's Editorial​

Signs of liberty

Why is the University of Mary Washington inhibiting free speech at today's Obama-Biden rally?



Date published: 9/27/2008
p { font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt; text-decoration: none; color: #000000; text-align: justify; background-color: transparent } NOT ALL COUNTRIES guarantee their citizens the right to virtually unbridled freedom of speech. The United States does. Would someone please tell the campaign of Sen. Barack Obama? And the dozing guardians of liberty at the University of Mary Washington?

Mr. Obama, the Democratic nominee for president, is scheduled to speak at a rally at the university today. The public is invited to this forum, on property it, the public, owns. However, signs and banners will not be allowed, according to the organizers and compliant campus officials. Suddenly, UMW is a First Amendment-Free, or at least a First Amendment-Crippled, Zone, subject to the self-serving preferences of politicos. Why does an Obama rally--or a McCain rally or a Nader rally--justify taking a little off the top of Americans' most fundamental rights?

A UMW spokeswoman says that the Obama campaign required the sign-and-banner ban. That campaign tells us that the ban is for "security" reasons. But a spokesman for the U.S. Secret Service, responsible for protecting presidential candidates, says that the service has no objection to signs at rallies, provided that no "part of the sign could be used as a weapon"--e.g., a heavy metal pole or a sharpened stick. Finally, the McCain campaign tells us, "We encourage people to make signs at our events."

Regarding today's event, one would expect better from a campaign bearing the name of a former professor of constitutional law. (See Ambrose Bierce's definition of a lawyer: "one skilled in circumventing the law.") And one would expect much better from a university that, in pursuit of a day of celebrity, a boost in prestige, and profits from its book store's planned commemorative Obama T-shirts (now scotched), shaves away an American liberty purchased by men who turned white snow red and dry dirt wet with their sacrificial blood. This is a lot to swap for a mess of pottage. Remarks the Rutherford Institute's John Whitehead, who has turpentined the Bush administration's civil-rights record, "The Secret Service has a better free-speech viewpoint than the college."

The First Amendment guarantees the freedoms of religion, speech, the press, peaceable assembly, petition of the government. Will one who aspires to the title Defender of the Constitution begin inhibiting these First Freedoms even before he is in office--at a public university?

Free speech means you have the right to hold up a sign, to unfurl a banner, to wear a T-shirt or create music, to pass around handbills--or newspapers--expressing your views at any public event. This is doubly true at campaign rallies--quintessential political forums--where such expressions are subject only to narrowly drawn "time, place, and manner" restrictions. Says Kent Willis, chief of the ACLU-Virginia and a Fredericksburg resident: "Mary Washington may be able to impose some restrictions on the size of signs or the materials used in them, but we do not believe the school can legally ban all signs at an outdoor political event to which the public is invited."

Furthermore, the very speech we must be most careful to protect is that which is most onerous to us. Our natural inclination is to shut up the Other Side. The problem is, many days we are the other side.

America's fundamental freedoms--more in danger of being whittled away than stolen in one fell swoop--must be defended everywhere, including in our own backyard. The Obama campaign and Mary Washington need to back off this odious policy. An opinion printed in Magic Marker should never be contraband at an open American political event--and if that emblazoned thought interferes with the atmospherics of some partisan stagecraft specialist, that is a bearable tragedy.

Today's Obama-Biden rally is set for 5:15 p.m. Gates open at 3 p.m. We hope the event, part of a history-making campaign, packs the campus. If you go and wish to take a sign, feel free to cut out the box below, write your own message, paste it to some cardboard, and show off your point of view. Or make your own sign or banner from scratch.

We trust that the tonic of Jefferson and Madison is still the drink of choice at the college up the hill. That libation doesn't mix well with tincture of Tiananmen.

http://fredericksburg.com/News/FLS/2008/092008/09272008/413770

That is just unreal! I'll be looking for tomorrow's paper to see how it actually went.

 

[Goofyluver]

OMG. Are you serious?

Someone started a 2nd thread on the same thing???

 

[Notatourist]

No, but they want to go beyond protesting. They want to prosecute those who disagree with their version of the truth. Who gets to define what the truth is??

And where does it say that? Hmmm? You know, Obama has been libeled many ways and Missouri has a law against that. He got lawyers involved in an ETHICS law in Missouri and he's hoping to have an ETHICAL campaign...

And this is wrong how?

 

[manning]

Imagine that. Equal time on the public airwaves for the first time in over two decades.

I hope that is indeed one of the very first acts of the new Congress.

You do watch the Hannity and colmes?

Colmes is the liberal one who does a pretty good job defending Obama.


Guess what......He DOESN'T want the act to be passed. He feels you should have the right to choose what you want to broadcast. There are plenty of airwaves out there. Broadcast what you want and let the people decide what they want to listen to and let the ratings decide.

After all NBC does that and they are at the bottom of the ratings.

Let me guess....they are far left. Ah, that's why they want to legislate what you listen to/watch.

Say doesn't Fox present both sides of issues and lets the people decide?

What a novel idea....let the people decide.

 

[shortbun]

Okey-dokey, then. We'll put you all down for "I have no defense of Barack Obama's unprecedented assault on free speech, so I'll talk about something else — and if I can, I'll blame George Bush for Barack Obama's unprecedented assault on free speech."

Thanks for participating!

Yeah, me too. Patriot Act. lol!!! What a name for the Bushies stepping all over our constitutional rights!!! Patriot Act!!!

 

[rayelias]

He's totally psycho. I bet he dreams about Obama every night.

I don't recall this PUNDIT (Hannity) saying anything about a "warm tingly feeling running up his leg" about a candidate like a certain NEWS REPORTER on another network said about Obama.