Banned from Boardwalk Openhouse

[Chuck S]

This is true, and there seems to be a DVC kiosk everywhere you look to take advantage of that foot traffic.

BWV however has the added benefit of having models available to hold an open house.

But again, it depends upon who actually "owns" those models. If they are taken from DVC inventory, their use is being denied to DVC members that are paying dues on them, unless there are enough people trading out of BWV that DVC rents those units to the sales dept to recoup the cost of cruises etc.

 

[DrTomorrow]

Dean's comments state in a manner much clearer than mine the concept I was trying to convey.

 

[DrTomorrow]

[...]I find it hilarious that people are disagreeing with me or trying to find a reason or excuse that I was not allowed to go in. [...]

I confess I'm not sure why you find this hilarious. You posted to a site which is a "discussion forum"; certainly you expected it to be discussed (and if you expected the comments to be unanimously "poor baby", well ). And while the fine folks here on the DIS have wide range of sentiments about Disney & DVC as corp. entities, I don't think that anyone here considers them to be "all stupid, all the time". So, unless you think that you were intentionally personally excluded from the DVC "Open House" because DVC is out to get you (in which case, why weren't you wearing your tinfoil hat?) then there must have been some reason for it. And we were just debating as to what it might have been - and some interesting ideas were brought up. Again, this is a discussion forum - we were discussing....

IMHO - YMMV

 

[Sammie]

Irregardless of whether they used the word Open House and you took that as an invitation to walk right in, you were asked at the door obviously your intentions, which you described as basically just being nosey, and if space was limited, and they had a purpose for this Open House to talk with perspective new members, I personally don't see the problem with excluding someone that does not fit that intention.

I do find it interesting you went from being willing to share your DVC agent's name with anyone interested to intentionally steering others away from that, sorry but that seems a bit childish to me over not being allowed into a Sale Presentation. Since you were not allowed in, how did you get to talk to these prospects?

I just don't see any reason to be upset.

Just my opinion.

 

[Judique]

But again, it depends upon who actually "owns" those models. If they are taken from DVC inventory, their use is being denied to DVC members that are paying dues on them, unless there are enough people trading out of BWV that DVC rents those units to the sales dept to recoup the cost of cruises etc.

I can't answer your question, Chuck, as to who owns the models or whether they are being used correctly or if someone was denied a room,etc. I spent 5 days at BWV just before Easter and I did see the open house sign on one evening - I think it was Friday. It wasn't there all week. Perhaps it's a temporary setup when they have some vacancy. From memory, the sign appeared to be something made for the evening. Do DVC guides work on a commission basis?

 

[FlyingfreeWDW]

Yomickey,

I am very surprised at all the flames flying around here. Maybe I'm naive but open house should be just that, open, and open to EVERYONE. If not, at the very least they need to change the name. My guess here is that you just encountered someone who either was misinformed or having a bad night. I've poked around rooms and talked to guides many times and they have only been helpful. Please follow up with a complaint. I hope this doesn't spoil your view of DVC because this was an exception not the norm.

 

[miamimama]

We were at BWI in March, and saw the sign for the open house, or model, - don't remember what is was called. I had scheduled, and cancelled , a tour with the guide at the Boardwalk lobby DVC desk the day before and she was there at the model. She was pleasant, but obviously somewhat miffed that we had called to cancel the day before. She offered very little info and remained quiet during our brief visit. We have since purchased at BWV, but only because of some wonderful help I got here at Disboards and another guide I was referred to.

 

[YoMickey]

FlyingfreeWDW, Thanks for your kind words. It would take a lot more than a few people standing on their heads thinkng I'm upside down to spoil my opinion of DVC or the value this discussion board offers. It was just a misguided guide with the wrong sign.

I'm still laughing about it.

Sammie, the sign didn't say "Presentation, enter here" It said "Open House", plus I don't think TTS will think its childish when they cash the commission checks.


It is what it is. Moderator kill this thread. Please. I'm sick of deifining "OPEN HOUSE"

 

[dvcnewgirl]

The same thing happened to me last week. I am a new member and have never seen the units because I bought resale. They would not let me in to see the models at the boardwalk.

 

[3DisneyNUTS]

WHY must every every other thread have a SSR Basher? Many of us LOVE SSR and ,...well,... Opinions and Earholes, everyone's got two. Very immature.
Thank you for sharing your superior opinion of SSR owners. We all certainly appreciate the extra thought you gave from upon your high mount about us today. Pride goeth before the fall... especially from such a high mount.

Back on Topic,
Seems they would allow, during an Open House, to let folks view at leisure and have guides posted around for potential buyers. Even current owners at other resorts would be potential buyers for the open house resortof which they don't currently own, wouldn't they?


~DW

We love SSR and are going back next week Can't wait. Don't let the jealous bashers get you down

OT I think it is silly to turn a guest away from looking.

 

[fishermouse]

They dont want exsisting members telling prospects about the resale market.

And you got this factual information Where?

Think we need to stop reading into things and comming up with goofy opinions about what happened. If someone really wants to see another resort and is considering an add on they should call their guide. If you want resale get the person you are buying from to figure away to show you around or rent you a day, and not expect DVC guides to help seel for their competetion.

 

[fishermouse]

Congratulations, someone actually got the point of the argument and didn't reflexively defend SSR. Welcome to the mountain top.

Maybe you shoud go back and read the post in question Don't think it mentioned resale at all!
Possibly if that was your point you could have mentioned it. no reason to bring SSR into a conversation that was about BWV. Since only the original poster was there the rest of us really don't know what went on. What we do know is that it did not involve SSR, BCV, VWL, HH, VB or OKW.. They have some converted show rooms that are now being sold as DVC plus some resale inventory to unload, I just don't see the conspiracy youseem to have uncovered.

 

[keishashadow]

Still think if the sign says "Open House", it's just that - an opportunity for all to enter & poke around.

BTW, it's a matter of courtesy toward other Realtors for a for a real estate sales agent to ask a prospective buyer entering an open house, if they're working with another agent. "Stealing" clients is frowned upon & will bite you later. My point is, this is a common question, as well as...are you interested in making a purchase?

No flames to OP but, there's a big difference between wanting to take a lookie-see around & venting or "educating" any prospects who might be @ the open house during the same time. Don't think this is an instance of a DVC member behaving badly & being shown the door, that's a whole nuther matter.

I've worked new housing sites with daily/weekly open houses. The argument that DVC'ers would waste the guides' times is bs; a good agent can handle many visitors & if traffic warrants it, additional agents could easily be assigned and usually, for security reasons are.

Don't plan on going to WDW & hanging out @ the Open Houses but, until they post the "No DVC Members Allowed" I will check them out if so inclined.

 

[senecabeach]

I think I actually convinced about 2-3 family's to check out TTS. They were all scheduled to take the SSR tour and I said don't buy direct go resale. This was alll because I couldn't take a crappy little 5 mintue walk thru an openhouse.

Way to go "explitives" you just lost 2-3 prospects to TTS.

Yo Mickey... Too bad, you just lost some $$$ in bonus perks for referrals!!

 

[JimFitz]

And you got this factual information Where?

Think we need to stop reading into things and comming up with goofy opinions about what happened. If someone really wants to see another resort and is considering an add on they should call their guide. If you want resale get the person you are buying from to figure away to show you around or rent you a day, and not expect DVC guides to help seel for their competetion.

??? I was just stating what I think to be true, never said it was factual. It just makes sense. Why was my opinion Goofy? It's more than obvious that the resale market has grown tremendously, and I (notice I said I) believe it has impacted SSR sales. I have told at least 10 prospects to go resale to save $$$.

 

[Judique]

Plain and simple, me "yes I was sober" and my catholic school teacher wife were turned away from a supposed open house at the Boardwalk last week because we were already DVC owners. It was never my intention here to start an argument or be accused of not telling the whole story. They should just rename it and none of you have a valid argument against that because it is not truly "open". Period.

YoMickey - by any chance did you visit the original models at BW, before they moved to SSR? When we stopped by to see SSR at BW, (like you, we were already DVC members) we did not automatically get to walk on through. It was a whole process: first, they found out who our guide was, and then tried to make an appointment for us with her. When they found out she was unavailable during our stay, they kept us waiting until someone had a few minutes to show us around. They were nice about it, and we were offered lemonade, muffins and salt water taffy meanwhile, but - eventually we got to see the model. With the model at BCV, it was much easier to tour as an existing member - you just walked in and signed the guest book and there was usually just one agent there. They kept a basket of pins and stickers for the kids.....we always felt welcome going there - so I added a few points! The BW was always a little less 'open'.

I wonder if DVC regrets tearing out the BWV salescenter? Perhaps the inconvenience of having to be scheduled and driven over to SSR for a tour doesn't attract as many buyers as dropping by Boardwalk did?

Disclaimer here - I like SSR. I've stayed there and I think it has a lot of potential. I would like to own some points there. However as a BWV owner, I also am curious as to why we have a selective sales pitch going on in our midst.

 

[DrTomorrow]

Just to add a positive DVC Guide experience:

We bought into SSR in August '03, without having seen it (we did do lots of research, though). We already had a visit in October planned (that great FT package they offered - 7 nights at the Polynesian). By the time we went down there, we had already closed, and our Guide (Jim McCoy - great guy) knew he wasn't getting any add-on money at that time. Still, he set up a tour of the model (then still at BWV), sent the van to pick us up and gave us the full tour - again, even though we had just bought in and he was not going to get any more cash from us. MrsT and noted two thing: it was the most low-pressure sales environment we've been it, yet Jim and the other DVC folks at the model made us feel quite "valued". Just a note to say that existing DVC members are welcomed by DVC - perhaps all it takes is a little courtesy and a little advanced planning....

 

[rinkwide]

...no reason to bring SSR into a conversation that was about BWV...what we do know is that it did not involve SSR... They have some converted show rooms that are now being sold as DVC plus some resale inventory to unload...

Let me make sure I understand; You think SSR should be left out of this discussion because DVD is trying to sell BWV inventory out of the models the OP was excluded from. Is that correct?

 

[Lasrnw]

We went in on that same Open house Sign last trip and explained that we were new members and just snooping....we were welcomed with open arms. Don't get your experience.

 

[PamOKW]

I was also slightly annoyed by the restrictions for seeing the SSR model. I had very limited time this trip and would have loved to take a look at the model when we were on the way to the airport. Of course the guide outside told me about the evening hours. I had my brother & SIL with me who were possible prospects, too. Well, I guess we can't buy what we didn't see.

I would have been very upset if I'd been turned away from the Open House on the Boardwalk. I understand about not "wasting" the time of the guides but in sales I don't think there's really such a thing. Everyone should be treated as a potential prospect. After all, my intent was to most likely "waste the time" of the person who first showed my The Disney Vacation Club way back when --- I had no idea I would be walking out an owner.