Baltimore Orioles fans: You should be ashamed of yourselves

[JoeThaNo1Stunna]

Giving Palmeiro two standing ovations and chanting "We Want Raffy!"

Sends a great message to the kids. Do steroids, lie about it big time, and become more popular with your fans!

 

[LadyyRedd]

Believe me - not all of us want him!!!!!

 

[ThAnswr]

Giving Palmeiro two standing ovations and chanting "We Want Raffy!"

Sends a great message to the kids. Do steroids, lie about it big time, and become more popular with your fans!

Pardon me, Joe, I have a question about the photo in your sig.

Is that #88 Michael Irvin? Didn't he, a married man at the time, get arrested in a hotel room, with a hooker, for drug possession? And didn't the police confiscate all kinds of sex toys and sex paraphenalia, in addition to drugs, from that hotel room?

Just asking.

 

[JoeThaNo1Stunna]

Pardon me, Joe, I have a question about the photo in your sig.

Is that #88 Michael Irvin? Didn't he, a married man at the time, get arrested in a hotel room, with a hooker, for drug possession? And didn't the police confiscate all kinds of sex toys and sex paraphenalia, in addition to drugs, from that hotel room?

Just asking.

Fine, he may not be the perfect individual, but he never compromised the integrity of a sport like Raffy. Nor did he lie to Congress and point his finger around.

 

[PixieDust32]

Oh God, here we go!

 

[Christine]

Fine, he may not be the perfect individual, but he never compromised the integrity of a sport like Raffy. Nor did he lie to Congress and point his finger around.

Oh, please. No, he hasn't been to Congress yet, but his actions off the field are just as bad. You are just as much in awe of these sports "Gods" as the folks in Baltimore.

But, yes, I agree with your post.

 

[lilkitty819]

How many people have taken steroids for poison ivy or have an inhaler for asthma, ? Doctors now a days give out steroids for all kind of problems and half the people don't even realize there taking them. So lets just wait and see what happens.After all you still can't take away the fact that he got 3000 hits. Also remember Sammy Sosa and his cork bat! Sports stars are human and make mistakes, You see Raffy would love to be able to talk but until everything with congress is done he needs to only talk to his lawyer. So let the people in Baltimore give him a standing O for he is a good ball player.

I want to know how many time people on this board has open mouth and insert foot. I know I have, and I don't want to hear but he's a sports star, he, as I am, is human after all

 

[snoopy]

I'm a Balmer girl born and raised, my Dad took me to my first O's game when I was just over 1 week old. I grew up admiring Brooks Robinson, Boog Powell, Dave Johnson, Earl Weaver....back in the day they would have a designated day where kids could come out on the field and get all the ballplayers autographs. The players were all so humble back then, its hard to believe what baseball has become in just over 30 years.

I no longer care about pro baseball anymore. Too much arrogance from these stars who are paid millions of dollars to act like idiots. This year we discovered the Frederick Keys and the Bowie Baysocks, two minor league teams that are not to far from where we live. We'd rather go see those games, where its less about big business and more about baseball.

 

[JimB.]

How many people have taken steroids for poison ivy or have an inhaler for asthma, ? Doctors now a days give out steroids for all kind of problems and half the people don't even realize there taking them.

Different kind steroids.

Anabolics & Prednisone are not the same thing and do not have the same physiological effects.

 

[Breezy_Carol]

I'm a Balmer girl born and raised, my Dad took me to my first O's game when I was just over 1 week old. I grew up admiring Brooks Robinson, Boog Powell, Dave Johnson, Earl Weaver....back in the day they would have a designated day where kids could come out on the field and get all the ballplayers autographs. The players were all so humble back then, its hard to believe what baseball has become in just over 30 years.

Snoopy, I was a junior Orioles Advocate. Loved Brooks and Frank Robinson. (My maiden name was Robinson.) And my brother liked Luis Aparicio. Those were the good ol' days at Memorial Stadium.

We go to the Orioles some now but enjoy the Wilmington Blue Rocks too. I think you and I have a lot in common.

 

[snoopy]

Snoopy, I was a junior Orioles Advocate. Loved Brooks and Frank Robinson. (My maiden name was Robinson.) And my brother liked Luis Aparicio. Those were the good ol' days at Memorial Stadium.

We go to the Orioles some now but enjoy the Wilmington Blue Rocks too. I think you and I have a lot in common.

Carol, ahh Frank Robinson....now there was a ballplayer! And a class act too. I had completely forgotten about Luis Aparicio...another great player. I can take myself back to Memorial Stadium in my memory and its always such a happy feeling for me. Baltimore was a great place to grow up, wasn't it?

 

[ThAnswr]

Fine, he may not be the perfect individual, but he never compromised the integrity of a sport like Raffy. Nor did he lie to Congress and point his finger around.

I know.....it's different.

However, the fact there are different degrees of scumbags is something we can agree on. Nevertheless, you can put lipstick on a pig and call it Monique, but it's still a pig.

 

[SRUAlmn]

Have they even proven that the steroids were in his system when he testified in court? Maybe he took (or was given them) after his court appearance. Don't accuse someone of perjury until we know all the details. I still think Mazilli had something to do with it. They would not have fired him so readily just based on how the team was performing. They kept Hargrove in their for years when the O's stunk


On a side note, I agree that the fans should not support the steroid use, but I think it's ok to support the man who we have grown to love as a person and a ball player, and I don't think anyone should pass judgement (steroids, cheating on wife, drug use, etc...) until someone has had a fair trial in a court of law.

 

[babar]

I know.....it's different.

However, the fact there are different degrees of scumbags is something we can agree on. Nevertheless, you can put lipstick on a pig and call it Monique, but it's still a pig.

I would love to have a pig who wears lipstick and I would call him Monique!

Can I steal this line from you? I'm going to figure out a way to work it into a conversation tonight!! I love it!

 

[ThAnswr]

I would love to have a pig who wears lipstick and I would call him Monique!

Can I steal this line from you? I'm going to figure out a way to work it into a conversation tonight!! I love it!

I stole the line from former TX governor Ann Richards who stole it from someone else and so on and so on and so on.

Use the line in good health and pass it on.

 

[foolishmortal]

Have they even proven that the steroids were in his system when he testified in court? Maybe he took (or was given them) after his court appearance. Don't accuse someone of perjury until we know all the details. I still think Mazilli had something to do with it. They would not have fired him so readily just based on how the team was performing. They kept Hargrove in their for years when the O's stunk


On a side note, I agree that the fans should not support the steroid use, but I think it's ok to support the man who we have grown to love as a person and a ball player, and I don't think anyone should pass judgement (steroids, cheating on wife, drug use, etc...) until someone has had a fair trial in a court of law.

Who cares if they were in his sytem at the time or not....when he went in front of them and denied the way he did, he AND ONLY HE should have known what was going into his body from that second forward. How stupid could he be to talk like that to them but then actually do them?? He had to know he was one the first on the list to get tested.

Now everyone says oh but he didn't know blah blah blah...if you make millions of dollars a year he has the RIGHT AND RESPONSIBILITY to know what is going into his body. If he is going to slouch and not care what it si then he deserves the consequences.

Now for the Rafy backers saying look at his numbers....YES LOOK AT HIS NUMBERS BEFORE HE MET CANSECO AND AFTER HE MET CANSECO.

Tell me steroids doesn't help.

It doesn't help hit the ball that part is skill, but the more power behind the hit the less chance for it to get stopped in the infield, or a short infield pop up becomes a short outfield hit, A long pop up now becomes a homerun...so yes look at the numbers before and after Canseco came into his life.

This man is a joke, this sport is a joke.....and I am a man who grow up with baseball as his favorite sport!!!

 

[SRUAlmn]

The reason I said that it mattered whether or not the steroids were in his system during the trial is because he was being accused of perjury, and there is no proof yet so I don't think people should make that accusation. As for your hatred of the sport of baseball, I don't think you should take it out on one person.

 

[JoeThaNo1Stunna]

How many people have taken steroids for poison ivy or have an inhaler for asthma, ? Doctors now a days give out steroids for all kind of problems and half the people don't even realize there taking them. So lets just wait and see what happens.After all you still can't take away the fact that he got 3000 hits. Also remember Sammy Sosa and his cork bat! Sports stars are human and make mistakes, You see Raffy would love to be able to talk but until everything with congress is done he needs to only talk to his lawyer. So let the people in Baltimore give him a standing O for he is a good ball player.

Bragging about his accomplishments is nothing to do when he was just found to have used a perfomance enhancing drug that most likely helped him do that.

Sosa's corked bat thing was truly an isolated incidence. After all they checked over 30 of his game bats and found this was the only one that was corked. The bat was just basically something he used to give the fans some fun during BP.

There is nothing Raffy can say to make this ok. He had a chance to speak earlier and he committed perjury!

We should have known he was juiced all along... let's see before he become teammates with Canseco he hit 14, 8, 8, 14 HRs in his first 4 official seasons. Then when he was introduced to Canseco he hit 26, 22, 37, 23 HRs and never hit below 23 again after he became teammates with the King of Roids!

 

[JoeThaNo1Stunna]

I know.....it's different.

However, the fact there are different degrees of scumbags is something we can agree on. Nevertheless, you can put lipstick on a pig and call it Monique, but it's still a pig.

I don't care what Michael Irvin does within the confines of his hotel room. I do care when some jerk like Palmeiro compromises the integrity of the sport and lies under oath.

 

[JoeThaNo1Stunna]

On a side note, I agree that the fans should not support the steroid use, but I think it's ok to support the man who we have grown to love as a person and a ball player, and I don't think anyone should pass judgement (steroids, cheating on wife, drug use, etc...) until someone has had a fair trial in a court of law.

There will be no need for a trial, he was found guilty and punished in the MLB's system.

There is no doubt whether or not he took steroids.

There is a smidgen of doubt that he may never have taken them prior to this season, however that is very unlikely.

Fine if you don't want to judge him for perjury but he clearly violated MLB's steroid policy and compromised the integrity of the game.

He clearly is not a Hall of Famer if Pete Rose was banned for a far less serious offense.