Bag check guard opened wallet

[BrianL]

The entire process at WDW is just stupid. If I"m going to carry a firearm into the park, I will carry it on me, not in my bag or my little change purse (?!?!). At Universal they have you go through a metal detector and your bags go through one as well. They have some smart people over there making their security decisions. Maybe WDW should try to hire them.

I found articles on two recent incidents of someone with a gun trying to enter MK and neither time was it the metal detector that caught it but a trained security person who noticed the person. One case happened in December before the metal detectors were even there. In the second case, the person was chosen for the metal detector when they decided to turn around and try to leave, but law enforcement had already been alerted and they pursued and stopped him.

Disney security works just fine as far as I'm concerned, and it has for years and years.

 

[Aflyingbuttress]

Airport security does NOT open anyone's wallet. In fact, you do not have to remove your wallet from your purse or backpack. The entire thing goes through the xray machine. A wallet is not a bag. A wallet is also very easily identified. If you all want someone pawing through your credit cards, bank cards and money then go for it. Not going to happen without my express permission and ME handling MY wallet. I just went through 4 levels of security in the Istanbul airport and no one opened my wallet even when they did a hand search of all bags. They have real terrorists and don't care about my money.

But you are giving Disney your express permission just by agreeing to their terms when you buy the ticket and then showing up at their park of your own volition. I don't understand what part of this process you think implies they don't have your express permission.

 

[Aflyingbuttress]

If you don't think explosives to cause major damage could be in a wallet you need to do some research.

That's for sure. Look at the central park bombing this summer. It was a tiny explosive, small enough the victim didn't even see it and it blew his leg off.

 

[Aflyingbuttress]

Who said anything about "pitching" a fit? I would ask them to take their hands off my money and allow me to handle it in however they deem necessary to know that isn't a cover for some sort of weapon.

But I'm curious how they are supposed to know that you aren't some slight of hand master who could hide a small weapon that way?

 

[maxiesmom]

I guess the moral to the story is if you have something you don't want security opening or handling, don't try and take it into a Disney park. They may open or search whatever it is, and if you want in the park you have to let them. You are of course free to turn around and leave with your item unsullied. Up to you.

 

[FigmentKrazee]

I guess the moral to the story is if you have something you don't want security opening or handling, don't try and take it into a Disney park. They may open or search whatever it is, and if you want in the park you have to let them. You are of course free to turn around and leave with your item unsullied. Up to you.

Nailed it.

 

[trvlgirlmq]

I guess the moral to the story is if you have something you don't want security opening or handling, don't try and take it into a Disney park. They may open or search whatever it is, and if you want in the park you have to let them. You are of course free to turn around and leave with your item unsullied. Up to you.

No one has a problem with opening their backpacks or purses. What I, and others, have an issue with is the opening of wallets that contain our money, credit cards, identification. How do we know that they aren't going to steal our money or memorize our credit card numbers? These people are just rent a cops with no real training. I trust them less than I trust the TSA "agents".

I guess I will just put all my cash and cards into my pockets and not carry a wallet because it seems I don't have to take anything out of my pockets. I'll just fill my bag with sanitary napkins and tampons and see how they like going through it!

 

[GaryDis]

How do we know that they aren't going to steal our money or memorize our credit card numbers?

So no real security training, but they're skilled sleight of hand magicians with photographic memory? Do you never hand your credit card to a cashier? For that matter, how can you be sure no one has installed a skimmer on whatever device is being used to read your credit card? Or hacked into their systems?

You can never be 100% sure, but one does need to be realistic. Theives, as unskilled as they may be, don't like to operate where they're in full view of many people and under close scrutiny. I'd worry more about pickpockets than the security staff looking at your wallet, or cash falling out when you open your wallet to pay a bill. Or forgetting to take your card from a chip reader.

 

[AngiTN]

No one has a problem with opening their backpacks or purses. What I, and others, have an issue with is the opening of wallets that contain our money, credit cards, identification. How do we know that they aren't going to steal our money or memorize our credit card numbers? These people are just rent a cops with no real training. I trust them less than I trust the TSA "agents".

I guess I will just put all my cash and cards into my pockets and not carry a wallet because it seems I don't have to take anything out of my pockets. I'll just fill my bag with sanitary napkins and tampons and see how they like going through it!

There is no way they get in the wallets enough to take anything
Or see anything
And if you unzip your bags yourself they won't even touch the bag. They just look in

 

[Jennasis]

No one has a problem with opening their backpacks or purses. What I, and others, have an issue with is the opening of wallets that contain our money, credit cards, identification. How do we know that they aren't going to steal our money or memorize our credit card numbers? These people are just rent a cops with no real training. I trust them less than I trust the TSA "agents".

I guess I will just put all my cash and cards into my pockets and not carry a wallet because it seems I don't have to take anything out of my pockets. I'll just fill my bag with sanitary napkins and tampons and see how they like going through it!

Honestly? We don't know. Maybe they are a troupe of pick-pocketing Cockney street urchins in disguise ...or at least an America's Got Talent magic act in the making (masters of sleight of hand and displays of photographic memory to boot)...but regardless, one doesn't like how they roll, they're free to not go.

 

[IrishNYC]

Every single person and bag should have to go through an xray machine just like at the airport. Every person would then HAVE to empty their pockets or risk setting off the machine. Disney makes plenty of money from all the sheeple so they could afford to do this. Make it the same for everyone and then it would at least seem more fair. If something looks out of place in a bag then they can hand check it while the owner is present just like at the airport. It is exactly about terrorists because no one ever had to go through this much to get into a theme park before. Yes, Disney is just a theme park, no where special that should require such security.

If people going to Disney are "sheeple" why are you going to Disney? Baaaaa.

No one has a problem with opening their backpacks or purses. What I, and others, have an issue with is the opening of wallets that contain our money, credit cards, identification. How do we know that they aren't going to steal our money or memorize our credit card numbers? These people are just rent a cops with no real training. I trust them less than I trust the TSA "agents".

I guess I will just put all my cash and cards into my pockets and not carry a wallet because it seems I don't have to take anything out of my pockets. I'll just fill my bag with sanitary napkins and tampons and see how they like going through it!

Disney hires a great number of retired/former police officers for security. They always have. The odds that any of Disney's security are going to steal anything from you are far, far less than TSA. TSA could use a lesson or three from Disney.

 

[burberryplaid]

Doesn't seem unusual...I went to a concert at Gillette Stadium and had to open my wallet for them....nothing bigger than a small wristlet was even allowed.

 

[Hikergirl]

No one has a problem with opening their backpacks or purses. What I, and others, have an issue with is the opening of wallets that contain our money, credit cards, identification. How do we know that they aren't going to steal our money or memorize our credit card numbers? These people are just rent a cops with no real training. I trust them less than I trust the TSA "agents".

I guess I will just put all my cash and cards into my pockets and not carry a wallet because it seems I don't have to take anything out of my pockets. I'll just fill my bag with sanitary napkins and tampons and see how they like going through it!

I went to 4 different stores plus a fast food restaurant today, which means 5 people handled my debit card. Maybe one of them had a photographic memory but I can't imagine being that paranoid to even think of that. Not too worried about a security guard doing it either.

 

[CT Disney]

So, people with bags are subject to a thorough search of every little item in those bags, including small zippered wallets. However, if wallets pose such a security threat, why are they letting all the people without bags stroll into the parks with wallets in their pockets? It seems to me that if zippered wallets are such a risk, they should be searching them all. What's the difference if you carry your wallet in a bag or in your pocket? Why does one get checked and not the other?

 

[mefordis]

But I'm curious how they are supposed to know that you aren't some slight of hand master who could hide a small weapon that way?

Cavity searches - that's the answer.

 

[mefordis]

No one has a problem with opening their backpacks or purses. What I, and others, have an issue with is the opening of wallets that contain our money, credit cards, identification. How do we know that they aren't going to steal our money or memorize our credit card numbers? These people are just rent a cops with no real training. I trust them less than I trust the TSA "agents".

I guess I will just put all my cash and cards into my pockets and not carry a wallet because it seems I don't have to take anything out of my pockets. I'll just fill my bag with sanitary napkins and tampons and see how they like going through it!

You are not supposed to think or ask questions. It's unAmerican. Just quietly do as you are told and go along with the charade.

 

[Aflyingbuttress]

So, people with bags are subject to a thorough search of every little item in those bags, including small zippered wallets. However, if wallets pose such a security threat, why are they letting all the people without bags stroll into the parks with wallets in their pockets? It seems to me that if zippered wallets are such a risk, they should be searching them all. What's the difference if you carry your wallet in a bag or in your pocket? Why does one get checked and not the other?

It's not about the wallets. Seriously. They are just searching "stuff", anything that crosses their path. It's probably entirely random.

And this is how random searches work. It's simply not possible (and judging by some of the comments in this thread, not wanted) for everyone to be 100% thoroughly searched. A random sampling of people mitigates a lot since most people don't take things they shouldn't just in case. And those who wish to do harm don't try as much in places where there is a possibility they will be searched or have to go through a medal detector beforehand.

I'm seriously confused. People are annoyed that they were searched even a little while simultaneously being annoyed that they and others weren't searched more. Makes no sense.

Do you really want to cry "not fair" and risk them taking fewer security measures, making us less safe, or raising security measures, making the parks that much more expensive and that much harder to get into at the same time? I know this is a trip to Disney, but in some circumstances you still need to remember you're an adult and that life is not fair. Disney is not aiming for fairness with their procedures. They're aiming for safety. As long as they are not actively discriminating against people there us really no issue here.

 

[Disneylover99]

There is no way they get in the wallets enough to take anything
Or see anything
And if you unzip your bags yourself they won't even touch the bag. They just look in

They go through my purse and bags with their hands almost all the time.

 

[AngiTN]

They go through my purse and bags with their hands almost all the time.

I was referring to the zipper wallet

I've never had them open any other wallet, just a zippered item

 

[AngiTN]

So, people with bags are subject to a thorough search of every little item in those bags, including small zippered wallets. However, if wallets pose such a security threat, why are they letting all the people without bags stroll into the parks with wallets in their pockets? It seems to me that if zippered wallets are such a risk, they should be searching them all. What's the difference if you carry your wallet in a bag or in your pocket? Why does one get checked and not the other?

They don't see them. If they did they do look in them. I made the mistake of taking mine out of my pocket too soon, on anticipation of going through the metal detector. The guard did insist I open the zipper wallet. Learned to keep out in my pocket till I get to the scanners. They have never asked to see on it after I put it in the plastic bin