Bad sportsmanship... really bad

[penn19]

I didn't see it mentioned in the video, but the news station that reported it today said the coach was mad because the kid who he tripped was 13 and allowed to play in a 10-12 year old game. NOT that it excuses what he did!

 

[diznygirl]

There is no way that was an accident - the coach clearly put his leg out, hooked the kid's leg, and the kid fell. It's completely intentional.

I agree that he shouldn't be allowed to coach children ever again.

 

[EveDallas]

I'm not defending the coach....

The link doesn't provide the entire story.

I'm not defending the coach.....

The kid allegedly scored a goal and showed his ***, taunted the other team, etc....

I'm not defending the coach....

This is a sports where, in the professional ranks, goons are the norm and fighting is allowed, if not encouraged.

I'm not defending the coach...

When a player on the other team acts like a sorry sack of ****, it is understandable that you might get irritated and want to exact some measure of revenge.

I'm not defending the coach....

The better thing to do would have been to talk with the other coach and/or the referee and let them know that your team didn't appreciate the antics.

I'm not defending the coach....

I never would have been physical with a kid, but I'm not going to sit here and act like I wouldn't grin a little if some little ******* didn't "get his" after acting the fool on the ice, field, court, etc.

I'm not defending the coach.

Exactly what part of this long rationalization is "not defending the coach?"

Barring defending yourself or someone else from physical harm, there is never a reason for an adult to hurt a child. Period.

 

[Geoff_M]

...that's what tripping does. Causes injury.

Really, tripping causes injury by definition? What injury does every trip cause?

 

[Geoff_M]

Exactly what part of this long rationalization is "not defending the coach?"

It's not a defense... it's a possible explanation to those gobsmacked here as to some possible extenuating circumstances as to why he was only suspended for 13 games. That doesn't excuse the actions.

 

[LuvsDragonflies]

That was no accident.

As far as a little fool getting his, was there an incident at this game where the injured child broke someone's wrist or ankle?

Also, last time I checked, it wasn't a coaches responsibility to physically assaut a child on the ice. I've watched hockey, and yes they can be animalistic, but an out and out suckerpunch from the coach? That I've never seen before.

 

[Jennasis]

Really, tripping causes injury by definition? What injury does every trip cause?

Intentionally tripping someone (a move consider illegal in just about every sporting event) is done to inflict harm...IMO of course. Injuries could be nothing more than scrapes, bumps, or bruises or it could be broken bones or worse. I've yet to meet the person who was tripped intentionally who didn't have some sort of injury to their person (however minor).

But what you seem to be saying is that this guy intentionally tripped a kid...for what exactly? To humiliate? To teach a lesson to? you honestly believe that the coach didn't think he was going to cause some type of injury by tripping a kid on ice? It's okay if you believe that I guess. I don't believe that.

I can agree to disagree though. Hope he gets a lifetime ban.

 

[LuvsDragonflies]

Because the child's coach allowed him to play at age 13, the coach decides to physically harm the child. That's just wack, that guy shouldn't be anywhere near children, his coaching license should be stripped. What an *******.

 

[Geoff_M]

I've yet to meet the person who was tripped intentionally who didn't have some sort of injury to their person (however minor).

Given that tripping is probably the single most commonly called penal foul in soccer, then by using your logic soccer refs should hand out red cards left and right since we can deduce that each instance is likewise an intent to injure an opponent.

What was going through the idiot's mind? I don't know, but it was clearly some form of physical retaliation for some perceived offense from the kid. I also think the guy deserves the assault charge.

 

[Magic Mom]

is there another angle on the video?? I"m not really sure if he was even looking at the kid - he seemed to be looking at the other coach & not paying attention to the kid - could be an accident

If you slow the video way down you can see him throw his arms out to balance himself and then swing his leg back and sweep it right around under the boys legs. There is no way that was an accident. Then he turned and made a gesture (I'm not sure what it was) in the boys direction, but the body language wans't one of surprise and he didn't jump over to help the boys that fell.

 

[Jennasis]

Given that tripping is probably the single most commonly called penal foul in soccer, then by using your logic soccer refs should hand out red cards left and right since we can deduce that each instance is likewise an intent to injure an opponent.

What was going through the idiot's mind? I don't know, but it was clearly some form of physical retaliation for some perceived offense from the kid. I also think the guy deserves the assault charge.

Fine with me! ...wait...what's a red card?

 

[Geoff_M]

Hold the phone people.... I think a lot of the details we've read here are just repeated Internet chatter.

It appears that the youth hockey association involved has NOT taken final action against the coach. Here's a two day old news story from the CBC. The association head says they're still looking into the matter. It sounds like what's getting repeated over here is mostly stuff from YouTube comments which may or may not be true.

 

[Geoff_M]

Fine with me! ...wait...what's a red card?

Ejection from the game... If every soccer trip resulted in a red card, there wouldn't be enough eligible players left to complete your average youth soccer game.

 

[Wall-E1]

Here's a few newer articles...

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2012/06/28/bc-tripping-coach-suspended.html
(from 17 hours ago)
From the article...

An RCMP spokeswoman said police could recommend a charge of assault against the coach, a man in his 40s.

Aikenhead said the coach has been suspended pending the outcome of the police investigation.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ayer-13-breaking-wrist.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
(from 6 hours ago)
From the article...

A Vancouver hockey coach was arrested after he allegedly tripped up a 13-year-old player from an opposing team, causing a fall which broke the boy's wrist.

The crowd's cheers quickly turn to boos and outrage as they witness the Vancouver Hornets coach apparently trip the boys intentionally.
As the two boys lie on the floor, Tremblay turns and aggressively points at them. The Vancouver Hornets had just won Saturday's game when the victorious coach allegedly lashed out.

Both teams are in a league for players aged 10 to12. The injured boy was likely to have been 12 when he started playing for the Richmond Steel team, Sergeant Paulena Gidda told The Canadian Press.

A parent of a Richmond Steel player told The Province that tension began between Tremblay and the 13-year-old when the teen scored the opening goal.

'Every time that kid was on the ice, you could see the coach would be talking to him, trash talking him, basically,' said the parent.


http://www.theprovince.com/Poor+sportsmanship+norm+Hornets+hockey+father+says/6862521/story.html
(2 hours ago)
From the article...

one parent told The Province on Thursday that it isn't the first time the coach and his team have been poor sports.

"We've played this team numerous times," said a dad who witnessed the Saturday incident and who asked to remain anonymous.

"It seems every game we played against them, there's people yelling at each other."

The incident and ensuing altercation was captured on video and police say they will recommend assault charges against Tremblay.

the trouble began after the Steel opened the scoring early in the game at UBC's Thunderbird Arena.

"The player that got hurt . . . was celebrating and he skated by the [opposing] bench," he said.

"Obviously, the coach said something to him because the player then turned around and gave him the finger."

The Richmond dad then described how Tremblay began making remarks toward the player each time the youth started another shift.

"Every time that kid was on the ice, you could see the coach would be talking to him - trash-talking him, basically," the parent described.

"It was to the point where the kid was visibly upset on the bench."

The player now has a broken wrist and is wearing a cast.


He wins the game, and then decides to take revenge on a 13 year old player on the losing team. This coach is a pathetic excuse of a human being.

According to the last article, it seems that the 13 year old player scored the opening goal. He skated by the opposing team bench. The witness thinks the coach had words with the 13 year old. The 13 year old gave the coach the middle finger. The coach then trash talked the kid whenever he was on the ice for the rest of the game.

Personally, I don't care if the middle finger was completely unprovoked, which I don't believe it was. A grown man should have enough restraint and good sense to know that trash talking a 13 year old throughout a game and then tripping him after the game is totally unacceptable. A man like this who shows a complete lack of judgment should not be allowed around children... as proven by the fact that his anger and physical actions has resulted in a child getting a broken wrist.

 

[MomofKatie]

I didn't see it mentioned in the video, but the news station that reported it today said the coach was mad because the kid who he tripped was 13 and allowed to play in a 10-12 year old game. NOT that it excuses what he did!

Reports state the kid was 12 when the season started, turned 13 during the season. Youth sports leagues have pretty stringent rules and regulations to make sure players are the appropriate age.

My DD plays travel team soccer. The cutoff for the "U14" league is 7/31. The player must be younger than 14 on that date. Her birthday is early September. The season starts right around or sometimes after her birthday, thus making her 14 during the whole year- both seasons of play. But she is a legal player on the "under 14" team.

I'd really hate if a coach decided to assault my kid because he wrongly decided she wasn't a "legit" player- or that she played too well.

 

[Geoff_M]

Personally, I don't care if the middle finger was completely unprovoked, which I don't believe it was. A grown man should have enough restraint and good sense to know that trash talking a 13 year old throughout a game and then tripping him after the game is totally unacceptable.

I don't think you'll get much of an argument with regard to that from anyone here... But the outrage over him supposedly only getting a 13 game suspension appears to be unwarranted as that "fact" appears to be false. Ditto for the "fact" that the outburst was centered around the kid's age.

My DD plays travel team soccer. The cutoff for the "U14" league is 7/31. The player must be younger than 14 on that date. Her birthday is early September. The season starts right around or sometimes after her birthday, thus making her 14 during the whole year- both seasons of play. But she is a legal player on the "under 14" team.

I don't know how Hockey Canada works, but with USA Hockey the "cut off" is only the birth year. Our youngest was born in 1999. That makes him a "99" in terms of USA Hockey. Per USA Hockey this season "Bantams" would consist of "99's" and "98's". However, travel hockey and above will differentiate between year. "99's" would be Bantam "A" for travel and the "98's" would be Bantam "AA". You can play "up", but not "down".

 

[Alsobrook]

I hear you... at best that might explain the light punishment.

Sorry, I'm disputing that one... You can find plenty of YouTube videos of parents/coaches behaving badly at other youth sporting events that don't draw life-time suspensions. His career wasn't spared just because they shrugged and said "It's Hockey... a blood sport". This is like the ol' "People only go to auto races because they just want to see the wrecks!" meme. It's a view mostly held by "outsiders".

Oh, I know you can. Hell I've seen it, live. I don't think he was spared because of the nature of the game... I just always find it interesting, especially with hockey, a sport I couldn't give a flip about, that we want decorum at the youth level, and yet, in the professional ranks, and especially in the minors, the reason we go to the damn game is to watch people kick each other's *****.

 

[Alsobrook]

I get you aren't defending the coach but would you be "grinning a little" if the kid who was being a bit of a tool (in a non violent way) on the ice during the game BROKE HIS WRIST when he "got his" from an adult?

Cause that's what happened.

Yeah, I know.....and yeah. Look, the wrist injury was an unintended consequence, an that doesn't make it right, but I feel the same way about it as I do when I watch a football player act like an asshat and then get drilled by someone on the other team.

It's sad because it's a kid and not a grown person? Nah, not really. Teach your kids not to act like punks or be prepared for the idiots in the world to exact revenge.

 

[Alsobrook]

Exactly what part of this long rationalization is "not defending the coach?"

Barring defending yourself or someone else from physical harm, there is never a reason for an adult to hurt a child. Period.

See, even after I wrote it a jillion times......


READ THESE WORDS AND TRY TO UNDERSTAND THE PLAIN ENGLISH. THE COACH WAS WRONG. I NEVER WOULD HAVE DONE IT. NO ADULT, AND ESPECIALLY A COACH, OUGHT TO DO WHAT HE DID.

 

[LuvsDragonflies]

Yeah, I know.....and yeah. Look, the wrist injury was an unintended consequence, an that doesn't make it right, but I feel the same way about it as I do when I watch a football player act like an asshat and then get drilled by someone on the other team.

It's sad because it's a kid and not a grown person? Nah, not really. Teach your kids not to act like punks or be prepared for the idiots in the world to exact revenge.

Yeah, but who taught the kid to act like a punk? His parents or the coach?

Anyway you slice, no matter what the kid did barring physical assault, the coach should be barred from coaching. I hope he gets jail time for assault.