Avoiding Gay Days- Not bashing the weekend just have kids and need help

[Dakota_Lynn]

wow some ppl have ome big oppinions here jesse I totaly understand te posters fears. I am so sorry for some of the ppls posts here towads you.you are not being bad. I fear what my 6 year old willsay on gay days when were'll there. I have pesonal problems with gays my self becous my brother is gay and Ive seen the stuff hes done.

Look if I were you Id just make sure to keep you'll kidsbussy with the park and the rides and tell them what ill tell my son. they love each other thatsall that matters but heisnt to make his mind up on those things till he is older. as a kid he will be brought up to love girls

My brother has done some really screwed up things, too. He's always been promiscuous and when he was a kid, he was into drugs. A real bad seed. Unlike you, I don't have "personal problems" with a whole sexual orientation because of him. I know most straight people don't do those things!

 

[MommyWithDreams]

I agree....I see more PDA from teenagers now (in a very distasteful manner) than gays/lesbians. They are everywhere, and they are people too. Do you take them grocery shopping, the mall to see Santa, will you homeschool? Now might be the best time to take them so they can be taught young that everyone is different, but we should treat everyone with the same respect.
This post just made me sad...it's Disneyland........this is the last place I would discriminate against anyone.

 

[pumpkin5156]

Dakota ~ You just make me laugh when I read your posts. Clearly there are some things that have yet to be dealt with in your life. There's no other reason to start going off on a simple and innocent question. To each his own...

 

[BELLEDOZER]

Oregonkids, I couldn't agree with you more. If you feel uncomfortable with Gay Days at Disneyland, it was just unfortunate that your vacation coincided with these days. You did not mean to offend anyone with your posts. I am open to all lifestyles. However I can't blame you for being worried about your kids being exposed to things that they may be too young to understand. You are only trying to protect your kids, and there's nothing wrong with that. I think the problem is with Dakota Lynn, who is so high up on her soapbox that she can't tolerate those of us who may have different oppinions, and thinks that she has to educate everyone to the gay/lesbian lifestyle, despite that many of us have our own opinions on it. Weather good or bad it has nothing to do with gay bashing, and more to do with what you are comfortable with. And that is the most important thing. You are only trying to do what's best for your kids.

 

[lisadoll93]

I agree....I see more PDA from teenagers now (in a very distasteful manner) than gays/lesbians. They are everywhere, and they are people too. Do you take them grocery shopping, the mall to see Santa, will you homeschool? Now might be the best time to take them so they can be taught young that everyone is different, but we should treat everyone with the same respect.
This post just made me sad...it's Disneyland........this is the last place I would discriminate against anyone.

I totally agree!!! My 5 yo did not even notice. I noticed a lot of same sex families just having a wonderful day with their kids.

 

[JadeDarkstar]

ok and has any one heard of AIDs I have known three ppl who have died from aids becouse they wanted to sleep around with same sex ppl. Look I have no problem with ppl chosing what they want and how to live but some the things you have said here is just to wrong. let the one who wrote this post fill safe. She dosnet want to excpose her kids to that I totaly understand that and you shouldnt be makeing it seem that shes so wrong for even thinking that way. and it still is the dark ages it isnt acceptbule to some and why subject our kids to it if we dont want to.

 

[Dakota_Lynn]

Dakota ~ You just make me laugh when I read your posts. Clearly there are some things that have yet to be dealt with in your life. There's no other reason to start going off on a simple and innocent question. To each his own...

You make me laugh too! I'm glad we're enjoying one another so much!

 

[mariezp]

Good gracious, why don't YOU chill out! When the opportunity presents itself to educate people, I will do just that. Many people on this thread have a very incorrect idea about what happens at gay days. I am correcting them. Many people think it will be harder than it has to be to explain gays to their kids. I'm offering solutions as to how to make it easier. If you don't like it, by all means, skip over what I write.

This forum is to discuss and ask questions about DL so the OP was not out of line asking a question simply because it was about Gay Days. Perhaps, if you do not like her question you should skip over this thread if you are sensitive to the subject and so quick to act on the defensive.

 

[Making_Memories]

ok and has any one heard of AIDs I have known three ppl who have died from aids becouse they wanted to sleep around with same sex ppl. Look I have no problem with ppl chosing what they want and how to live but some the things you have said here is just to wrong. let the one who wrote this post fill safe. She dosnet want to excpose her kids to that I totaly understand that and you shouldnt be makeing it seem that shes so wrong for even thinking that way. and it still is the dark ages it isnt acceptbule to some and why subject our kids to it if we dont want to.

OK I have no idea how one can respond to this post about AIDS. I have only known one person closely who died of aids complications and they were straight. To the above poster you are incorrect......... the dark ages have indeed past thank goodness. Just imagine the dark ages I would be barefoot, pregnant (around 13 years old maybe?), forced to cook and boy oh boy do I hate cooking! You see times change and we as people have to adapt. Tolerance is a word that actually bothers me. Kind of like "putting up with" something. I would say I ask people to simply understand that people are different and not belittle them for those differences. Your post was poorly written with horrible grammar. However I will not belittle you for being less educated then I and misinformed on the topic of AIDS. I can accept the fact that we all have different levels of education and move on. Acceptance is a great thing.

This is my first post in this thread and I had wanted to say to the OP if you do not feel like it would be a good day by all means go on another day. I think that you would for sure be uncomfortable on gay days. Not because of any PDA but due to your views. Also you may make some of the people who came to celebrate gay days feel uncomfortable if you were to say something derogatory in front of their kids. It does go both ways. Also I go many times a year and the worst PDA always seems to be from teens on POTC. My daughter always says eww for half a second and then moves on to singing yo ho yo ho....

I guess I need to post my qualifications so here goes. I am a mom of two who is not a christian and is not gay either.

 

[BELLEDOZER]

Right On!!

 

[JadeDarkstar]

I am a mother of one and am not fully christion eather, and I have no trouble with ppl being gay or lebian I have known many but i didnt like how the poster was being treated. But yes if you dont fill comfortbuel going maybe try another day.
If you think you can go and just keep you'll kids minds on the rides and the charcters and stuff then go and have a good time
i will be there the 5th and was told that was the last day. i dont really think you'll have any troubles on the 6th. from what ive read on the gay days page most will be there 3-5 as groups and stuff

 

[Dakota_Lynn]

ok and has any one heard of AIDs I have known three ppl who have died from aids becouse they wanted to sleep around with same sex ppl. Look I have no problem with ppl chosing what they want and how to live but some the things you have said here is just to wrong. let the one who wrote this post fill safe. She dosnet want to excpose her kids to that I totaly understand that and you shouldnt be makeing it seem that shes so wrong for even thinking that way. and it still is the dark ages it isnt acceptbule to some and why subject our kids to it if we dont want to.

I know many straight people who have died of AIDS. Oftentimes, when a straight person gets diagnosed with HIV, they come to the gay community for support, so we get plenty of chances to get to know heterosexual people with that virus. It's sad no matter who gets it, but it doesn't speak for an entire group of people when some get sick with a terrible disease!

Oh...and as for HIV, lesbians have the lowest infection rate of any demographic group. We must be the chosen ones, eh?

I have already said that I think it is perfectly ok if somebody isn't comfortable with homosexuality. I even think it is fine if you choose to not go to Disney because you aren't comfortable around us. I have NEVER questioned your rights to your opinions, just the inappropriateness of expressing homophobic notions in mixed company. I would never say that I don't approve of Christianity to any of you! I wouldn't comment on your looks or weight or skin color. Why do you think it is ok to say that you don't approve of homosexuality? It is JUST as disrespectful. Expressing anti-gay thoughts in public is no different than expressing anti-black thoughts or anti-religious thoughts. It's just not nice, yet for some reason, people think it is ok to do that! There are things and people and lifestyles that I'm not comfortable with either but I would never single out anybody on this board in such a way. I wouldn't imply that I need to protect my kid from any of you. Even if I felt that way, I wouldn't voice it in any location where feelings might get hurt. If I had a question about a group that was going to be in Disneyland when I planned to go, I find find a subtle way to get the information; not come out and express the need to protect my kid from that group.

The last thing I have to say on this is that there are a lot of things you'll have to explain to your kids; war, death, greed, religious hatred, poverty, disease, violence, racism...just to name a few. Next to all that, is it really that big of a deal to tell your kids that two people love each other?

It's been nice talkin' with y'all. I'm sorry to those I've offended, but the subject is very important to me! I make no apologies for standing up against intolerance, but if I chose my words poorly and offended people, I truly am sorry. I'm on 38 hours with no sleep (gotta love prednisone ) and I sometimes find myself a little more blunt that I normally would be when I'm sleep deprived. Enjoy your vacations everybody! I suspect I'll be there when some of you are (in October).

 

[JadeDarkstar]

alright dakota i also apoligize if ive affended you. I guess some times we all just get cought up.. I hope you get some good sleep and I hope you wont hate me for my posts. Freedoms are what we all have weather religion or sexual we all have our own rights and freedoms. And when im there in oct i will not let any of my views rule my vacation im there to have fun and hope those going there will too

 

[Dakota_Lynn]

alright dakota i also apoligize if ive affended you. I guess some times we all just get cought up.. I hope you get some good sleep and I hope you wont hate me for my posts. Freedoms are what we all have weather religion or sexual we all have our own rights and freedoms. And when im there in oct i will not let any of my views rule my vacation im there to have fun and hope those going there will too

Of course I don't hate you! Have fun at Disneyland. I'd love to hear a trip report when you get back.

 

[autumnbaby9]

ok and has any one heard of AIDs I have known three ppl who have died from aids becouse they wanted to sleep around with same sex ppl.

This has got to be the most uneducated post I have read here .

Aids is not a gay only disease

 

[JadeDarkstar]

hay i never said it was a gays only diesse
and dakota you too id love to hear you'lls when you get back
Dakota i just saw you'll side pick and line. Denmarks where my mom and dad got married and i was born in germany I miss it too

 

[Dakota_Lynn]

hay i never said it was a gays only diesse
and dakota you too id love to hear you'lls when you get back
Dakota i just saw you'll side pick and line. Denmarks where my mom and dad got married and i was born in germany I miss it too

Oh, Denmark is an awesome country! I miss it terribly bad. I have wonderful friends there which made it very hard to say goodbye. What a great country to get married in! Did your parents live there? I wanted to visit Germany, but I couldn't drag myself away from Denmark either time (I went twice last year). I'm going for a month in 2009 and I hope to see Germany and Sweden as well!

 

[missmonkey]

I have to say that I appreciate Dakota_Lynn's considered and reasonable posts. She makes a good point that, though you may not wish to offend, you may still be insulting others. It's a point we would all do well to consider, regardless of our points of view. D_L, your message comes through loud and clear.

If the OP is concerned about PDAs and, the other favorite complaint, obscene sayings on t-shirts, I'd watch out for straight teenagers. I hope the fad of wearing t-shirts that read "Porn Star" and pants with things written across the rear end portion has finally died.

What I see at DLR during Gay Days are fellow adults who love the Disney magic as much as any group of straight adults as well as GLBT couples bringing their families to enjoy the day. If we weren't wearing our red t-shirts, you wouldn't know we were there.

See you there in October, Dakota_Lynn!

 

[BELLEDOZER]

I appreciate missmonkeys and JadeDarkstars input in regards to this. I also appologize to Dakota Lynn as well if I've offended her. Ultimately it comes down to being tolerant towards other peoples lifestyles, wether we agree with them or not. I think that discrimination of any kind is bad, however it does exist wether we like it or not, and there will always be situations that we will not be comfortable in. However it is how we deal with the situation is what matters most. I personally would not hesitate to take my kids on vacation during Gay days, if our vacation time coincided with it. The way I look at it is that I respect peoples opinions, whether I agree with them or not.

 

[CNYGuy]

It's been nice talkin' with y'all. I'm sorry to those I've offended, but the subject is very important to me! I make no apologies for standing up against intolerance, but if I chose my words poorly and offended people, I truly am sorry. I'm on 38 hours with no sleep (gotta love prednisone ) and I sometimes find myself a little more blunt that I normally would be when I'm sleep deprived. Enjoy your vacations everybody! I suspect I'll be there when some of you are (in October).

Respectfully,

I appreciate that the subject is apparently important to you, but it seems that when some people "take a stand against intolerance", they are actually not being tolerant of others opinions or perspectives. It also seems to me that the original poster was very clear that she was trying not to offend anyone, but simply looking for some advice. The question could have been posed in a very narrow minded or malicious way, and I don't think that it was. Good for you, for being strong in your opinions, but please allow for the original poster's concerns as well...

Why the prednisone?