Aulani resale

[disneydoc2007]

Hello! I’m looking to purchase a resale Aulani contract and it’ll be my first! Is $100pp reasonably good for 160 points? I’m thinking yes but want to be sure! No points 22 but has 23 and 24. We like Aulani but will travel to Orlando more. Value>>>resort choice. Thanks!!

 

[Paul Stupin]

Hello! I’m looking to purchase a resale Aulani contract and it’ll be my first! Is $100pp reasonably good for 160 points? I’m thinking yes but want to be sure! No points 22 but has 23 and 24. We like Aulani but will travel to Orlando more. Value>>>resort choice. Thanks!!

Yes, $100 would be a great price, if you can get it.

 

[Great3]

I think it's probably fair only, in today's market. Couple of years ago, I would even say it's overpriced, but times are different now. If you are going to go to Orlando more, I still would suggest you get a WDW based resort for Sleep Around Points (SAP) versus Aulani, even though it's higher upfront costs, you will make it up on MF Dues.... Aulani isn't usually that hard to get into, except certain times of the year like early June and Holidays.

Good Luck on your purchase.

Great3

 

[disneydoc2007]

I think it's probably fair only, in today's market. Couple of years ago, I would even say it's overpriced, but times are different now. If you are going to go to Orlando more, I still would suggest you get a WDW based resort for Sleep Around Points (SAP) versus Aulani, even though it's higher upfront costs, you will make it up on MF Dues.... Aulani isn't usually that hard to get into, except certain times of the year like early June and Holidays.

Good Luck on your purchase.

Great3

Thanks! Can you elaborate on the dues differential and MF dues?

 

[Paul Stupin]

Thanks! Can you elaborate on the dues differential and MF dues?

If you’re traveling to Orlando more, just buying Aulani for ”sleep around” points isn’t a particularly good idea. Aulani’s maintenance fees are very high. You can easily find a chart listing all the WDW DVC resorts‘ maintenance fees online to compare for yourself. They add up over time, and they never go away.

But the more significant reason not to do this is that you lose the 11 month booking advantage at WDW. You’d be limited to booking whatever “dregs” you can find at the 7 month mark, and availability these days is limited. All the less expensive rooms are also booked first, so you’d wind up using more points to book pricier accommodations wherever you could find them. You would, though, have the 11 month advantage at Aulani, but availability is greater there at 7 months than other Disney resorts in Florida, so you don’t really need it.

The general consensus is to buy where you want to stay.

 

[Great3]

Thanks! Can you elaborate on the dues differential and MF dues?

Certainly, look at this chart:

2022 DISNEY VACATION CLUB ANNUAL DUES​

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Resort	2021 Dues	2022 Dues	Increase
Animal Kingdom Villas	$8.0728	$8.2365	+2.02%
Aulani	$8.3539	$8.6739	+3.83%
Bay Lake Tower	$6.8998	$7.0826	+2.65%
Beach Club Villas	$7.4373	$7.5362	+1.32%
BoardWalk Villas	$7.8126	$8.0802	+3.43%
Boulder Ridge	$8.1062	$8.1469	+0.50%
Copper Creek Villas	$7.5903	$7.6020	+0.15%
Grand Californian	$6.9927	$7.4824	+7.00%
Grand Floridian	$6.8118	$7.0077	+2.87%
Hilton Head	$9.9730	$10.0707	+0.98%
Old Key West	$8.3578	$8.8063	+5.37%
Polynesian	$7.0542	$7.3859	+4.70%
Riviera	$8.3833	$8.3840	+0.00%
Saratoga Springs	$7.1110	$7.3287	+3.06%
Vero Beach	$11.2307	$11.9405	+$6.32%

For 2022, Aulani is $8.67 per point, while SSR is $7.32 per point. For 160 points contract ($8.67 - $7.32 = $1.35 per points different * 160 points ) = $216 difference per year. Granted, the payback can be like 15 years or so from the upfront cost, but it will eventually happen. But mainly, it's the ability to be sure you can book at a WDW resort, and not wait until the 7 months period that matters more, that's where the value is.

Great3

 

[Paul Stupin]

Certainly, look at this chart:

2022 DISNEY VACATION CLUB ANNUAL DUES​

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Resort	2021 Dues	2022 Dues	Increase
Animal Kingdom Villas	$8.0728	$8.2365	+2.02%
Aulani	$8.3539	$8.6739	+3.83%
Bay Lake Tower	$6.8998	$7.0826	+2.65%
Beach Club Villas	$7.4373	$7.5362	+1.32%
BoardWalk Villas	$7.8126	$8.0802	+3.43%
Boulder Ridge	$8.1062	$8.1469	+0.50%
Copper Creek Villas	$7.5903	$7.6020	+0.15%
Grand Californian	$6.9927	$7.4824	+7.00%
Grand Floridian	$6.8118	$7.0077	+2.87%
Hilton Head	$9.9730	$10.0707	+0.98%
Old Key West	$8.3578	$8.8063	+5.37%
Polynesian	$7.0542	$7.3859	+4.70%
Riviera	$8.3833	$8.3840	+0.00%
Saratoga Springs	$7.1110	$7.3287	+3.06%
Vero Beach	$11.2307	$11.9405	+$6.32%

For 2022, Aulani is $8.67 per point, while SSR is $7.32 per point. For 160 points contract ($8.67 - $7.32 = $1.35 per points different * 160 points ) = $216 difference per year. Granted, the payback can be like 15 years or so from the upfront cost, but it will eventually happen. But mainly, it's the ability to be sure you can book at a WDW resort, and not wait until the 7 months period that matters more, that's where the value is.

Great3

The thing about dues is that I always notice how pricey Aulani fees are every year when I pay them, long after I’ve realized the price per point savings at the initial purchase. Now my wife and I love Aulani, and use our Aulani points there, so it’s not that big a deal.

But every year I notice how much more expensive they are in comparison to CCV and VGF, which I also own. So in my opinion it’s not a great strategy to use Aulani points for WDW stays. And the extra money you pay for the WDW resorts in Florida you’ll probably get back when you sell down the line.

 

[Great3]

The thing about dues is that I always notice how pricey Aulani fees are every year when I pay them, long after I’ve realized the price per point savings at the initial purchase. Now my wife and I love Aulani, and use our Aulani points there, so it’s not that big a deal.

But every year I notice how much more expensive they are in comparison to CCV and VGF, which I also own. So in my opinion it’s not a great strategy to use Aulani points for WDW stays. And the extra money you pay for the WDW resorts in Florida you’ll probably get back when you sell down the line.

Exactly, 100%, I agree, you just said it better in words.

Having said that, I own at Aulani, and have only ever stayed at Aulani. One of these days, I might used at a WDW resort, but the value is in Aulani, because even a hotel is very expensive in Hawaii/Oahu, but a hotel in Orlando is pretty darn cheap.

Which comes back to the point, buy Aulani to use at Aulani, but if you plan on using at WDW resort more often, than buy there instead. Our advice is the same, OP shouldn't be looking at Aulani as home resort for OP's intended purposes. As you said, when need to get out, WDW Resorts will have higher resale values anyways to recapture the higher up front costs, making MF dues the only real factor, along with the ability to reserve at a WDW home resort at the 11 months windows.

Great3