Attention: Boston Dis'ers: Need Advice

KA011005

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Hello fellow dis'ers,

My name is Kelly DeGuzman and my husband and I are planning to move to Boston within the next few years. We currently live in Staten Island, NY (NYC) and need advice on which neighborhoods are "good" and which we should "steer clear" from.

We've been perusing houses online and most of the ones we can afford are in the Allston, Brighton and South End Areas. We want to live in a relatively urban area with shops, transit, stc.

Any advice about relocating and Boston is welcomed & appreciated!!

Thank You so much!
:disrocks:
Sincerely,
Kelly DeGuzman & Family
 
Only tip I can give is that one of the best close suburbs of Boston (but very pricey) is Newton, MA. Its very very nice. It has the T station and its very close to Boston.

My sister and niece live in Newton. It's a 5 minute ride to Boston.

It's 15 minutes to the airport.

Another nice town is Brookline.

IMHO, Allston isn't that great.

There are 'some' nice areas in the South End. Of the ones you listed, I'd go with the South End (the Irish area of Boston). There is also South Boston which is different from the South End. There are some very nice parts of South Boston. My old boss lives there.

Actually, if I were young and single and wanted to live IN Boston, I'd love to live in the North End. But I'm Italian and would be in HEAVEN with all the great food!

Hopefully, you'll get some great advice here!
 
I personally wouldn't choose Allston or Brighton, as there are rather skeevy parts of both. The South End isn't a bad choice. Also, I'm sure that a lot of people might cringe at this suggestion, but what about East Boston? It's not the nicest part of Boston, but it's still reasonably affordable (in terms of what MA people consider affordable :rotfl: ).
 
Thanks for the suggestions. I like the North End as well but haven;t seen many houses for sale there online. Hopefully, we'll take a weekend trip and go to open houses around. We mainly want to stay in the city of Boston. We're looking for the classic boston brick sidewalks and urban feel. Condos, Townhouses & Brownstones (who doesn't love Brownstones, especially Beacon Hill & back bay :cloud9: .What are some towns in East Boston??

BTW. What do you mean by skeevy??? Dirty neighborhood? Yuccky houses??
Thats the info I'm in need of-- "scary areas":scared1:
 

i love living in burlington
great town also lexington and natcik are next to also greatplaces to live close to the mass pike and 129/95 and easy to get to the city but you dont have to live in it
i also agree about allston and brighton i dont like east boston its to close tot he airport and to much noise

places like north reading wakefield melorse area ll nice citites and towns outside of the city that would be nice to live in
 
KA011005 said:
Thanks for the suggestions. I like the North End as well but haven;t seen many houses for sale there online. Hopefully, we'll take a weekend trip and go to open houses around. We mainly want to stay in the city of Boston. We're looking for the classic boston brick sidewalks and urban feel. Condos, Townhouses & Brownstones (who doesn't love Brownstones, especially Beacon Hill & back bay :cloud9: .What are some towns in East Boston??

Beacon Hill and Back Bay are very nice and are as you describe you'd like but they are expensive! Senator Kerry lives in Beacon Hill!

Newton is just about as close to Boston as Allston and Brighton. If you end up realizing you can't afford a really nice part of Boston, I HIGHLY recommend just driving through Newton so you can see what I mean. It's a beautiful, highly popular, very close to Boston town. Houses sell very fast. It is quaint yet SO close to Boston.

The nice areas IN Boston are Newbury street, Beacon Hill, Back Bay, South Boston, North End. Newbury Street and Beacon Hill are both Brownstones/Classic Boston.
 
KA011005 said:
What are some towns in East Boston??

BTW. What do you mean by skeevy??? Dirty neighborhood? Yuccky houses??
Thats the info I'm in need of-- "scary areas":scared1:

I meant just plain old East Boston :)

Well, I'll put it this way...one of my family members lives in Brighton, and her neighborhood is rather run down, what I'd deem relatively unsafe, etc. In a lot of places, these houses would be knocker-downers. I'm not sure if people are doing that in Allston/Brighton or not, though. If you went to an open house in her neighborhood, you'd probably run out screaming :rotfl:

I don't know of too many brownstones with cobblestone sidewalks in that area. The areas of Boston that are like that are massively expensive (Back Bay, Beacon Hill). I'd love to live there too, but unfortunately I'd need to win the lottery first :rotfl2:

Living in very average parts of MA is excrutiatingly expensive right now, nevermind living in Boston proper. Wasn't Boston just voted THE most expensive place to live in the country :confused3 We grew up in MA and then eventually moved out because it just became unaffordable. My sis is still trying to buy somewhere in MA, but she has given up the dream of living in Boston (until she hits the lottery ;) )
 
beattyfamily said:
Beacon Hill and Back Bay are very nice and are as you describe you'd like but they are expensive! Senator Kerry lives in Beacon Hill!


Newton is just about as close to Boston as Allston and Brighton. If you end up realizing you can't afford a really nice part of Boston, I HIGHLY recommend just driving through Newton so you can see what I mean. It's a beautiful, highly popular, very close to Boston town. Houses sell very fast.

The nice areas IN Boston are Newbury street, Beacon Hill, Back Bay, South Boston, North End. Newbury Street and Beacon Hill are both Brownstones/Classic Boston.

Thanks again. I will definately check out Newton. Living in Ny houses are about the same price as Staten Island, however its is increasingly cheasper than Manhattan. we're budgeted for under $500,000, hopefully:confused: .
But how is the pay there, I have to take that into account.... I'm going to be teacher very soon and my husband is in the mortgage/ bank business.
 
KA011005 said:
Thanks again. I will definately check out Newton. Living in Ny houses are about the same price as Staten Island, however its is increasingly cheasper than Manhattan. we're budgeted for under $500,000, hopefully:confused: .
But how is the pay there, I have to take that into account.... I'm going to be teacher very soon and my husband is in the mortgage/ bank business.

I think that teacher pay is good in MA (as far as teacher pay goes, LOL!). Many towns won't hire you w/o a masters, though, so keep that in mind. Also, getting a teaching job in MA can be very competitive, so don't be afraid to take a permanent sub job because it can help you to get your foot in the door. The thing that I really like about MA teacher pay is that you get track and step, so you can increase your pay by getting "Masters Plus" credits. Some districts go WAY up, too, to like Masters+75 (or better!).

I'm not sure how the banking/mortgage industry pays in MA...the only person that I know in MA who worked for a bank has had some issues with layoffs in the recent past.

ETA - I don't know what you could get for $500K near Boston, but you could easily get a fixer out in the suburbs for that price :banana:
 
chrissyk said:
Living in very average parts of MA is excrutiatingly expensive right now, nevermind living in Boston proper. Wasn't Boston just voted THE most expensive place to live in the country :confused3 )

I don't know, however NYC is ablmost a million for a studio in the nicer areas.
In Staten Island, duplexes with 3 bedrooms in decent areas are a half a million.
Realty is gong crazy!:crazy2:
 
chrissyk said:
I think that teacher pay is good in MA (as far as teacher pay goes, LOL!). Many towns won't hire you w/o a masters, though, so keep that in mind. Also, getting a teaching job in MA can be very competitive, so don't be afraid to take a permanent sub job because it can help you to get your foot in the door. The thing that I really like about MA teacher pay is that you get track and step, so you can increase your pay by getting "Masters Plus" credits. Some districts go WAY up, too, to like Masters+75 (or better!).

I'm not sure how the banking/mortgage industry pays in MA...the only person that I know in MA who worked for a bank has had some issues with layoffs in the recent past.

I plan on getting my masters as soon as I finish up my bachelors. I want to become an English or History Professor. And I love boston for its love of Education & is a great college town. But for now i'm going to be elementary teacher so I can teach my son better & come home early for him.
 
KA011005 said:
Thanks again. I will definately check out Newton. Living in Ny houses are about the same price as Staten Island, however its is increasingly cheasper than Manhattan. we're budgeted for under $500,000, hopefully:confused: .
But how is the pay there, I have to take that into account.... I'm going to be teacher very soon and my husband is in the mortgage/ bank business.

Pay in Boston, is of course, significantly higher then in the suburbs. I have a friend who is a teacher in Boston but she's been a teacher for over 10 years...she makes between $50,000 and $60,000. Haven't got a clue about mortgage business though.

I know someone who works Manulife Financial and is a contractor and makes over $100,000 but pays all his own benefits.

My sister and niece work at Microsoft and make about $100,000+

Just trying to give you an idea.

With $500,000 you may have to live in a suburb of Boston. Boston is very expensive. Needham is much more reasonable yet still pretty close. Newton is pretty darn expensive. My sister just sold her house in Newton and she bought it 5 years ago for $460,000 and sold it for $800,000. It was a nice 3 bedroom house, nothing too fancy but she did update the kitchen and garage and put in a built in pool before she left.

Cambridge is cheaper then Boston and yet VERY close too. Maybe you can afford something there.

Oh, and in my last post I forgot to mention Chestnut Hill. Very nice area, very close to downtown Boston.

Good luck!
 
Thought you'd like this article:

Boston, Massachusetts: Top of the Charles
by Courtney Ronan


While previous Real Times community profiles have danced around the perimeter of Boston (the city's Back Bay neighborhood, or nearby Cambridge, for example), it would be an oversight to pass over this magnificent city, which -- unlike many other U.S. urban centers -- is home to many longtime residents who wouldn't dream of living anywhere else. And don't try to convince them otherwise, either; their loyalty is fierce.

And it's easy to share their sentiment once you set foot in what has been called the nation's "hub." This is precisely the time of year when many tourists plan their annual excursions to New England. Boston is the center of it all, containing a major airport (Logan) where the majority of tourists begin their adventures. Even if their destinations lie further north, however, once they get a look at the city of Boston, they often stick around a little longer than they anticipated.

There are few cities as navigable as Boston. The city's public transportation system is undoubtedly among the nation's best. There's little reason to have a car in the city, and in fact, many residents don't. If you do, be forewarned: Drivers are particularly aggressive here. With a lack of room to expand, and a large assortment of historical buildings to respect, more and more cars cram themselves into the city's existing streets. The result is vicious traffic, white-knuckled drivers, and lots of double-parking. Take the MBTA (known to locals as the "T"), on the other hand, and you can make your way just about anywhere, including Cambridge, the airport, and plenty of Boston suburbs. That's assuming, of course, that you don't want to walk. Boston is a walker's dream. In fact, it's often called a "walking city" because it's compact enough to make your way across by foot.

One of the most interesting aspects of this city, however, is its wealth of neighborhoods, all of them distinctive in their flavor. Take the North End, known for its predominantly Italian population. Many Italian families have lived here for years. Tourists and residents from other parts of Boston head here for the cuisine; the North End boasts a spectacular array of fine Italian restaurants, the likes of which you'll rarely find anywhere else in the United States. Simply walking through the North End is a treat for the senses. It's a lively area filled with activity and heavenly aromas.

The Back Bay neighborhood, as described in a previous Real Times community profile, is one of the city's most upscale areas -- particularly the Beacon Hill neighborhood, which simply cannot be missed if you plan a trip to Boston. The greater Back Bay area is characterized by gas-lit lamps, row after row of brownstones, and quiet parks, but the Beacon Hill section -- home to what is undoubtely the city's most expensive residential real estate -- is a world unto itself, where narrow streets of brick remain, making navigation by foot and by car a challenge; where relics of 18th century architecture have been lovingly preserved; and where crooked trees grow through iron gates, adding to the atmosphere that makes this neighborhood a historical gem.

Boston also is home to Chinatown; the Fenway/Kenmore Square area, where Boston University, Emmanuel College and Simmons College students live side by side with the locals next to the home of the Boston Red Sox, Fenway Park; Allston, a neigborhood characterized by historic homes which have been divided into multifamily residences, a popular choice among local college students; Jamaica Plain, dominated by sprawling two- and three-story homes, and close to the city's concentration of major hospitals and health-care research centers; South Boston, defined by its interesting blend of cultures; Dorchester, filled with triple-decker homes, and where crime has unfortunately been on the increase in recent years; and Brookline, another student haven, also home to a significant percentage of the city's large Irish population.

If you're moving to Boston from New York or San Francisco, for example, where criminally high costs of living are the rule, Boston may pleasantly surprise you. However, if you're from just about anywhere else, you're going to receive a jolt. Boston's cost of living, according to the "Boston Relocation Guide," is approximately 48 percent higher than the national average. So it follows that home prices are just as high. While you can select your home from quite an array of styles -- a brownstone, a Victorian home, one floor of a triple-decker, or even a run-of-the-mill condo -- chances are good you're going to have to settle for less space or a bigger dent in your budget. Don't expect to find brand-new construction in Boston, either. As mentioned before, the city lacks the space for new development, so residences tend to be older yet well-preserved, for the most part. The good news is that you're likely to find archtectural anomalies in your new home -- fireplaces in the bedrooms, unusual moulding, etc.

Anyone lucky enough to live in Boston has prime pick of a multitude of cultural offerings -- the Boston Symphony Orchestra; the Boston Pops (famous for their concerts under the "shell" along the banks of the Charles River); and a dizzying array of museums (the Boston Tea Party Ship and Museum, the Boston Children's Museum, the Museum of Fine Arts, Boston, the Boston Computer Museum, the Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum, Museum of Science, New England Aquarium, and Harvard University Art Museums, among many others. Local events are plentiful -- the Boston Marathon, a lively St. Patrick's Day celebration, an annual Fourth of July bash with the Boston Pops, and the Head of the Charles Regatta, an annual showdown among national crew teams that takes place each October on the Charles River. Clubs, theaters and bookstores are also in abundance, due in large part to the presence of 60-plus colleges and universities in the area.

A trip to Boston is a must for any history buff, and an exciting relocation prospect for anyone on the move. Before you head to Boston, however, you might want to brush up on the local dialect. The following site, "The Wicked Good Guide to Boston English," should help indoctrinate you:
 
I was just looking at a condo/townhome in South Boston on WEst Broadway. Three bedrooms, Newly Renovated above for 469,000. Not bad. Heres some pics:
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I lived in Allston for about 10 years. AVOID IT LIKE THE PLAGUE!!

When we started looking at condos, we went to some open housesin Allston. All of them were run down and and just plain nasty. They are almost always rentals to college kids. It was very noisy at night, especially on weekends. We just never left home at all on Moving Day (Sept. 1st, and to a lesser extent the end of May after finals).

The Green Line is an exercise in frustration - always packed, always slow. It takes me the same amount of time to take the commuter rail from Natick into work as it did for me to take the Green Line from Allston.

Be wary of buying a place in the that doesn't have parking. Street parking will be hard to come by, and most streets have parking prohibitions during snow emergencies. Also, places in the city generally don't have laundry rooms, so you'd have to lug your clothes to a laundromat.
 
KA011005 said:
I was just looking at a condo/townhome in South Boston on WEst Broadway. Three bedrooms, Newly Renovated above for 469,000. Not bad. Heres some pics:
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Seems nice. I don't know a whole lot about which parts of the South End are good, and which are bad. I know it was home to Whitty Bulger, Irish Mafia's most wanted. There's a bar on West Broadway that he hung out at but it's now a different place. I know that that is where Ben Aflek is from!!

Here's an interesting article on South Boston and how it's being rebuilt and condos will skyrocket. It's too long to post here.
 
what about cambridge/arlington? we lived in arlington for years and loved it. not brownstoney, but a nice town and very easy access into the city via the T.

cambridge may be a good choice, too. of the original towns you listed, I probably wouldn't recommend any of them. jmho.
 
I've gone to school, lived &/or worked in Boston since 1978. Here's my take:



beattyfamily said:
There are 'some' nice areas in the South End. Of the ones you listed, I'd go with the South End (the Irish area of Boston). There is also South Boston which is different from the South End. There are some very nice parts of South Boston. My old boss lives there.


Isn't South Boston the traditional Irish area and the South End is closer to the Copley Square area. Parts of Tremont Street run through the South End, towards Mass Ave. The South End has some high end restaurants and many renovatd condos are being sold there. One thing to note about the South End, it borders Roxbury .. that's not a place you want to be.

South Boston, AKA "Southie", can be a rough neighborhood to live in. In the winter you'd better not move someones lawn chair so you can park your car. You might find all four tires flat in the morning.

The North End is great to walk around in and for tourists. Great food, nice location. However, the neighborhood has changed a lot in the last 10 years. There are still many Italian families there but also many others who have bought up condos there. Much of it's old "charm" is gone IMO. Plus, it's been in the middle of The Big Dig and that's been a mess.

Forget living where there are cobblestones and old brownstones unless you have BIG BUCKS! Go walk through the classic neighborhoods and satisfy your need that way. Sorry.

Allston/Brighton, as others have said, is nasty and noisy. Many students there, bars, just gross except for a few streets which are disappearing rapidly.

Newton is great. Some locations can be pricy but the access to transportation and shopping is wonderful. Parts of Brookline are the same, such as Coolidge Corner. Just stay away from College campus areas.

In Cambridge, areas not far from Harvard Square are beautiful. There's a mix of condos, small homes and estates along quiet streets. Davis Square in Somerville (corrected) is another choice. It has T Red Line and Rt. 93 access, cute restaurants and shopping and busy but not too noisy. A bit further West, both Belmont and Watertown are right off the Mass Pike for access to Boston.

Arlington, to the North of the City, has access to the T Red Line and Rt. 93 plus affordable homes and condos in your price range.

Winchester is another great choice just to the North of Boston. Safe neighborhoods, fantastic schools, Rt. 93 and T Commuter Rail access.
 
Margie J said:
Isn't South Boston the traditional Irish area and the South End is closer to the Copley Square area. Parts of Tremont Street run through the South End, towards Mass Ave.

It was a typo and I fixed it. I often get South Boston and South End transposed if I'm not careful.
 
KA011005 said:
I was just looking at a condo/townhome in South Boston on WEst Broadway. Three bedrooms, Newly Renovated above for 469,000. Not bad. Heres some pics:
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West Broadway area is very "industrial" looking to me. It's close to the Gillette plant and you'll have a GREAT view of Rt. 93!

If you see any ads for South Boston naming Dorchester Ave., Mass Ave or Savin Hill Road .. RUN AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! One person I worked with called the Savin Hill T stop "Stab & Kill". That should tell you something.
 

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