Attention all MNSSHPers

[notnothin]

I am on the phone with a CM now...he is saying that Disney is undecided as to whether they will close the park an hour early or just make an announcemennt. He said that whether they close the park early or just make an announcement, the park WILL BE cleared of all non wristbanded guests prior to the start of the party, and any guests that are still in the park with out a wristband will be escorted out of the park....I hope this is true!

This is not towards you, as you are just the messenger, but I just don't see Disney 'escorting guests out of the park'. They'll always do whatever they can to avoid confrontation, and I doubt this will be any exception.

 

[mking624]

I just sent an email to both addresses...hopefully a response will be heard by someone soon.

Here's my email:
To Whom It May Concern,

I recently purchased tickets for Mickey's Not So Scary Halloween Party for September 15, 2006. My husband and I have been looking forward to attending. This will be the first time we've attended the event so we've been making sure we're learning all about it, including learning about the hour closure of the Magic Kingdom typically scheduled from 6pm to 7pm for the party decorating. Within the last few weeks, I discovered that the park hours changed for September 15th, with the closing time at 7pm and the party start time at 7pm. This concerned many people as we all wondered what was going on. I am now learning that this wasn't a mistake, but rather intentional, and that the park intends to remain open until 7pm. This presents a very large problem for those who have purchased the hard ticket for this event. Closing the park and starting the party at the exact same time opens the door for major abuse of the party privileges. And while there may have been some abuse when the park originally closed at 6pm, it was not at the same length as it would be for a 7pm closing time. Many people have been told it will operate the same way as Extra Magic Hours, that Cast Members will be on the look out for those without wristbands. Having participated in Extra Magic Hours, I can guarantee you that many Cast Members look the other way in order to avoid confrontation. There isn't a Disney official who can promise that won't happen. It does, and it will on that night. Please remember that we are not paying simply to ride the rides, we are paying for an entire experience...the fireworks, the parade, the trick or treating, the dance parties, etc. Not allowing a person on a ride because of not wearing a wristband will not prevent that person from enjoying the entire experience for free otherwise when the rest of us paid to be there.

I've heard from others who have contacted Disney that this is merely a rumor. And if it is, great!! However, I have yet to see a change on the park hours, so something needs to be communicated on your website very clearly. Some of us who are attending the first night of the party are not too keen on being the guinea pigs of this "experiment." There are many who are waiting to find out what happens that night before they actually purchase tickets and/or before they decide to go. This is clearly causing several problems for those who are paying for the event and those same people, myself included, are looking at this situation in a very negative light. My husband and I actually extended our Disney vacation by a day in order to attend the party. I am hoping that the extra cost of another night at our resort, the cost of adding another day to our park hoppers, and the cost of the party tickets will not be misspent. Please reconsider your park closing time to 6pm so that those who have paid to be at the party are treated right.

Sincerely,
Mary King

 

[eblack0409]

I guess we will just have to wait and see.....hopefully those who attend MNSSHP on Sept 15 can let everyone know....I am going on Sept 22...I will definately post when I get back what happens.....

I realize that Disney tries to avoid confrontation at all costs, but I hope they crack down and don't let those non-paying day guests stay in the park once the party starts...

I really don't understand how difficult this is: "IF YOU DID NOT PURCHASE TICKETS TO MNSSHP, THEN YOU NEED TO BE OUT OF THE PARK BEFORE 7:00" if everyone would be honest, then this thread wouldn't exist!

 

[phonyguy]

has anyone actually gotten an official response back from disney management ? if you do would post please! thanks!

 

[LAS2AMS]

Disney effectively uses the wristband policy for its extended park hours (for resort guests) in the evening. Can't see why this wouldn't be any different.

 

[mking624]

Disney effectively uses the wristband policy for its extended park hours (for resort guests) in the evening. Can't see why this wouldn't be any different.

This depends on what you view to be "effective." I can tell you from experience that many nonresort guest have stayed in the parks during evening EMH...and some have even gotten on rides. Many CMs just want to avoid confrontation so they ignore it altogether.

 

[Harvest02]

I wanted to take my boys to the MNSSHP in October 2007. I think I will wait to make my decision on whether to go until we get some feedback from others attending this year. I sure hope the non-ticketed guests will leave! I think that is TOTALLY UNFAIR if I have to pay $150 to attend, while someone else can go for free!

 

[TinkerbellMama]

I wrote my e-mail and indicated that if this is true, I want a refund for my Halloween night tickets. I didn't pay nearly $200 for our party's tickets just to have John Q. Public standing next to me get in for free.

 

[eblack0409]

I think the problem arises when Disney puts out that MNSSHP is a "hard ticket" event and no one without a wristband will be allowed in, but in the very same breath, they will not escort non paying guests out of the park because they want to avoid confrontation....how far will they go to avoid confrontation???? If I see someone without a wristband after the party has started, and I tell a CM that they shouldn't be here....who will the CM side with in order to avoid confrontation?

I understand that there are parents that don't want to disappoint their children by making them leave once the party has started, but if they don't pay for the ticket, they should leave....all the more reason for Disney to close the park an hour early!

I am a very outspoken person and I will tell someone who shouldn't be there that they need to leave....I will be furious if the CM doesn't make them leave....what are parents teaching their children.....that it's ok to steal....because that's exactly what it is.....

 

[schlepsnort]

Just sent off our email (to both email addresses). Kinda witchy sounding but sometimes you just have to pull out the ol' broomstick to get their attention. I wonder if they realize that they ARE falsely advertising this as a private event if they don't clear the parks, which could then lead to legal ramifications? Not that I, personally, would follow up with legal action but it would be a good enough threat I think to get my $$ back if necessary.
It'll be interesting to see what/if anything happens from the email campaign.



To Whom It May Concern:

I am writing to you due to concerns regarding this years Mickey's Not So Scary Halloween Party. My family purchased tickets to this event due to the description of the party on the Walt Disney World Official Website. It stated that this was a HARD TICKET event. We went further to research the party and learned that ONLY TICKET HOLDERS would be allowed to enjoy the magic of a 'private party' with limited tickets being sold for each night.

Now we are hearing that the Magic Kingdom will not be making efforts to clear the park COMPLETELY of NON TICKET holders to this event. I understand that noone wants a confrontation while at Walt Disney World. However, if you are advertising an event that will be closed to the general public and only open to those who have spent a good deal of money to attend then that is what you are expected to deliver. Otherwise it is false advertising.

We are not attending the party for the rides, but to take our children trick or treating at Mickey's House (as my 2 year old calls it), to see a special parade and special fireworks. Now if we have to give up being able to adequately see these special party only events because NON PAYING people are allowed to stay in the park then I will be requesting a complete and total refund of my money for this now non-event.

Many other people are upset by the recent quiet changes that have been made to this advertised special event. From the change of the closing hours and the conflicting information provided by the CMs when we call to ask what is going on. In the interest of good public relations I would think that Walt Disney World would be WANTING to make it very CLEAR to the MONEY PAYING TICKET HOLDERS exactly HOW the event will be handled. To say that the non-ticket holders will be 'escorted out' is not enough. I want a GUARANTEE that people who have NOT paid to be at this event will NOT be participating in any aspect of the evening party. Otherwise, again, you are providing false advertising and a refund to all who PAID to be there should be issued.

Already the general public is not happy with two prices changes within a year. I would think that this would be the final straw if you start changing hard ticketed events with rules that are not enforced.

I look forward to a guarantee that Disney is doing everything to remove non-paying guests from the premises on the night of the parties. If not then I also look forward to being told exactly how and when I can expect my refund.

 

[notnothin]

Just sent off our email (to both email addresses). Kinda witchy sounding but sometimes you just have to pull out the ol' broomstick to get their attention. I wonder if they realize that they ARE falsely advertising this as a private event if they don't clear the parks, which could then lead to legal ramifications? Not that I, personally, would follow up with legal action but it would be a good enough threat I think to get my $$ back if necessary.
It'll be interesting to see what/if anything happens from the email campaign.



To Whom It May Concern:

I am writing to you due to concerns regarding this years Mickey's Not So Scary Halloween Party. My family purchased tickets to this event due to the description of the party on the Walt Disney World Official Website. It stated that this was a HARD TICKET event. We went further to research the party and learned that ONLY TICKET HOLDERS would be allowed to enjoy the magic of a 'private party' with limited tickets being sold for each night.

Now we are hearing that the Magic Kingdom will not be making efforts to clear the park COMPLETELY of NON TICKET holders to this event. I understand that noone wants a confrontation while at Walt Disney World. However, if you are advertising an event that will be closed to the general public and only open to those who have spent a good deal of money to attend then that is what you are expected to deliver. Otherwise it is false advertising.

We are not attending the party for the rides, but to take our children trick or treating at Mickey's House (as my 2 year old calls it), to see a special parade and special fireworks. Now if we have to give up being able to adequately see these special party only events because NON PAYING people are allowed to stay in the park then I will be requesting a complete and total refund of my money for this now non-event.

Many other people are upset by the recent quiet changes that have been made to this advertised special event. From the change of the closing hours and the conflicting information provided by the CMs when we call to ask what is going on. In the interest of good public relations I would think that Walt Disney World would be WANTING to make it very CLEAR to the MONEY PAYING TICKET HOLDERS exactly HOW the event will be handled. To say that the non-ticket holders will be 'escorted out' is not enough. I want a GUARANTEE that people who have NOT paid to be at this event will NOT be participating in any aspect of the evening party. Otherwise, again, you are providing false advertising and a refund to all who PAID to be there should be issued.

Already the general public is not happy with two prices changes within a year. I would think that this would be the final straw if you start changing hard ticketed events with rules that are not enforced.

I look forward to a guarantee that Disney is doing everything to remove non-paying guests from the premises on the night of the parties. If not then I also look forward to being told exactly how and when I can expect my refund.

Well stated! Please share your response if/when you receive one.

 

[eblack0409]

Just sent off our email (to both email addresses). Kinda witchy sounding but sometimes you just have to pull out the ol' broomstick to get their attention. I wonder if they realize that they ARE falsely advertising this as a private event if they don't clear the parks, which could then lead to legal ramifications? Not that I, personally, would follow up with legal action but it would be a good enough threat I think to get my $$ back if necessary.
It'll be interesting to see what/if anything happens from the email campaign.



To Whom It May Concern:

I am writing to you due to concerns regarding this years Mickey's Not So Scary Halloween Party. My family purchased tickets to this event due to the description of the party on the Walt Disney World Official Website. It stated that this was a HARD TICKET event. We went further to research the party and learned that ONLY TICKET HOLDERS would be allowed to enjoy the magic of a 'private party' with limited tickets being sold for each night.

Now we are hearing that the Magic Kingdom will not be making efforts to clear the park COMPLETELY of NON TICKET holders to this event. I understand that noone wants a confrontation while at Walt Disney World. However, if you are advertising an event that will be closed to the general public and only open to those who have spent a good deal of money to attend then that is what you are expected to deliver. Otherwise it is false advertising.

We are not attending the party for the rides, but to take our children trick or treating at Mickey's House (as my 2 year old calls it), to see a special parade and special fireworks. Now if we have to give up being able to adequately see these special party only events because NON PAYING people are allowed to stay in the park then I will be requesting a complete and total refund of my money for this now non-event.

Many other people are upset by the recent quiet changes that have been made to this advertised special event. From the change of the closing hours and the conflicting information provided by the CMs when we call to ask what is going on. In the interest of good public relations I would think that Walt Disney World would be WANTING to make it very CLEAR to the MONEY PAYING TICKET HOLDERS exactly HOW the event will be handled. To say that the non-ticket holders will be 'escorted out' is not enough. I want a GUARANTEE that people who have NOT paid to be at this event will NOT be participating in any aspect of the evening party. Otherwise, again, you are providing false advertising and a refund to all who PAID to be there should be issued.

Already the general public is not happy with two prices changes within a year. I would think that this would be the final straw if you start changing hard ticketed events with rules that are not enforced.

I look forward to a guarantee that Disney is doing everything to remove non-paying guests from the premises on the night of the parties. If not then I also look forward to being told exactly how and when I can expect my refund.

You tell 'em!!! I completely agree, and it's time Disney took control....

 

[Foofness]

Sent my e-mail off to... Has anyone gotten a reply yet?...

We have tickets for the Sept. 15th party and I really will wish I hadn't spent the money if they don't clear the park... in fact I'll wish we'd have scheduled another place to be all together!... It'll be our last night there!... How magical do they think those of us that have paid to be there will feel with a bunch of theives around us?...

 

[MagicMe]

Now that's an email!!! Anxious to hear their response, hope you'll share!

 

[schlepsnort]

I will definitely share any response I get, I already got the automated response (yeah we got your email..blah blah blah someone will be in touch with you blah blah blah).
It'll be interesting to see what if any response any of us get!

 

[cocowum]

Sent my e-mail off to... Has anyone gotten a reply yet?...

We have tickets for the Sept. 15th party and I really will wish I hadn't spent the money if they don't clear the park... in fact I'll wish we'd have scheduled another place to be all together!... It'll be our last night there!... How magical do they think those of us that have paid to be there will feel with a bunch of theives around us?...

I also have tickets for the 15th. I will post as soon as I receive a response. I hope others do the same.

I don't think we'll here anything until at least Monday.

 

[Izeesmom]

We plan on going Oct 12 as well, this will be our first time going at this time of year and the first visit ever, for 4 others traveling with us. I hope this will not be a bad experience for us. I called someone at Disney tonight as well and was told they would close the park around 5 or 6pm.

 

[Lindy Loo]

My Dh sent an e mail from work too, so in effect we have sent two, but I figure the more the merrier, if ENOUGH people arent happy, and request refunds, then perhaps they will re think.

You would surely have to allow at LEAST an Hour to clear the park, "ASKING" is not going to work.... EVER!!!

 

[puggymom]

I have pretty much read all the threads here about this, and I am pretty upset. ( I have a ticket to 9/29). As most of you have said, I am not going for the rides, heck I have rode them all so many times already. I have really been thinking a lot about this and you know what dawned on me today. What about the companies/conventions that rent out a park after hours. You know darn well that Disney makes sure the regular day crowd is cleared out of the park. We deserve and should expect the same courtesy since this is billed as a hard ticket event.

Will be sending an email today.

 

[beattyfamily]

I miss the days when they closed MK at 6:00p and re-opened at 8:00p and MNSSHP/MVMCP ran from 8:00p - 1:00a so then they had 2 hours to be sure the park was cleared and NO ONE was in the park unless they were in a restaurant. Then they would escort those without tickets from the restaurants to the gate.

That system worked very well; even better then closing at 6:00p and reopening at 7:00p. Then they changed it to only closing for one hour in 2000.

I just can't see how they can clear the park this year with NO closing of MK and just an announcement for those without tickets to leave.