Asking for id for a three year old

[tjmw2727]

The simple fact is that Disney charges admission for children 3 and over. If you sneak your 3yo in as a 2yo you are breaking the rules plain and simple. It dosen't matter if you got caught or not nor if you think "Disney Cares" there is a rule in place.

You can justify a decision to break the rules many ways but you have still broken the rule. Only 5 rides in the MK have a height restriction so 3yo's can ride over 90% of the attractions available and enjoy all the shows and parades.

If you don't like the rule then you have the opportunity to take your $$ elsewhere but IMHO not liking a rule isn't a reason to break it.

TJ

 

[WantToGoNow]

If you don't want your children to lie, then don't teach them to do it. Not paying for a ticket for a child that rightfully should have one is stealing - plain and simple. The rules say children 3-9 must have a ticket -- if your child is 3, even if only by a day, then they need a ticket.

We went in November and my daughter turned 3 the beginning of December. We went in November so we would be before her birthday and she would be free. Next time, we will pay for her. By the way, we did have several occasions during our 9-day trip where she was asked how old she was. I sure wouldn't have wanted to drill my innocent little child on lying about how old she was.

Rules are rules people. What if it were YOUR company people were stealing from. It doesn't matter how much Disney makes -- it's still a corporation and it's no different from the little bakery on the corner -- would you walk out of there without paying for your donut?

 

[Deb & Bill]

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[kaysmommie]

If you don't want your children to lie, then don't teach them to do it. Not paying for a ticket for a child that rightfully should have one is stealing - plain and simple. The rules say children 3-9 must have a ticket -- if your child is 3, even if only by a day, then they need a ticket.

We went in November and my daughter turned 3 the beginning of December. We went in November so we would be before her birthday and she would be free. Next time, we will pay for her. By the way, we did have several occasions during our 9-day trip where she was asked how old she was. I sure wouldn't have wanted to drill my innocent little child on lying about how old she was.

Rules are rules people. What if it were YOUR company people were stealing from. It doesn't matter how much Disney makes -- it's still a corporation and it's no different from the little bakery on the corner -- would you walk out of there without paying for your donut?

I agree . My DS2 will turn 3 before our trip and I already bought his hopper ticket for the trip. He is on the small side I guess and could pass for 2 but that is stealing. I would rather be honest especially in front of my kids.

 

[zdesiree]

If right now you are having doubts of doing it, that means that you know that is not right, and if you do it anyway, you will have that on your mind for the rest of the trip and you won't be able to enjoy the trip completely.

When we went on December 2005, my girl just turned 3 in September and she was and still is very petite. Sometimes people still asked me if she was 2 years old when she was almost 4, so I know I wouldn't have that problem because she looked like a 2 years old. But honestly that idea didn't even go through my mind, I just bought her ticket, and believe me we are a family of five, so is quite expensive and a sacrifice to take the whole family to Disney.

If you are in a hurry, that doesn't mean that you will pass all the red lights, because you know that can bring bad consequences to you and your family for a bad decision you made.

 

[Texas Rob]

Here is a crazy thought I had while reading these posts...how many of you who would not have your children lie (including myself!) would also buy the resorts mugs and bring them back on consequent years to use in the commisary to refill with soda. Disney allows you to buy a mug and get free refills for the year you go, but many take back their mugs.

Is this the same principle of ethics? I have seen probably hundreds of different year mugs in the commissary at disney resorts.

Sorry if I am steering this off topic....

 

[beattyfamily]

Here is a crazy thought I had while reading these posts...how many of you who would not have your children lie (including myself!) would also buy the resorts mugs and bring them back on consequent years to use in the commisary to refill with soda. Disney allows you to buy a mug and get free refills for the year you go, but many take back their mugs.

Is this the same principle of ethics? I have seen probably hundreds of different year mugs in the commissary at disney resorts.

Sorry if I am steering this off topic....

I follow the rules. I do not bring mugs back on future trips (a pretty tacky thing to do, IMHO). I think they are the same kind of ethics although I feel that sneaking a kid in is a bit worse due to the 'lying' factor and the fact that its $300 your getting out of it vs. $10 for a mug but they are both wrong, IMHO.

I thought we weren't suppose to discuss ways to break Disney's rules or whether we should break them or not here on the DIS.

These threads always get nasty. Those who do it justify it by saying Disney won't miss the money or my kid can't ride that many rides anyway etc... and then they like to call those who don't agree "judgmental" or "moral police" "holier than thou" and "don't you ever break rules?" "don't you ever speed?" those who say its wrong will say its "stealing", and "lying", and get those who think its alright all upset!

This seems like a strange/controversal thread for a first-time poster.

Lets let it go....

 

[Texas Rob]

Lets let it go....

agreed and sorry fueling the fire from my part.

 

[dfarner]

My son will just be turned three when we go to WDW. Do they ask for ID if I try to get him in for free example for a 2 year old.What is WDW policey for checking the age of chlldren I am sure parents must of tried to pass a just turned three year old for a nearly three year old.

Will you be flying? The cutoff age for a free seat is 2-why don't you try pulling one over on the airlines as well?
Hey, while you're at it, why don't you hit Universal and SeaWorld?

 

[DawnM]

My son turns three this Sunday, March 4th. We are hoping to make a trip in May. We will pay. I dont' answer to Disney, but I do have to answer to myself and live with my choices. If I can't trust a person's words I can't trust anything about them.....that is the way I look at it.

Dawn

 

[DaisyLynn]

I rarely post on these threads...and when I do, I'm usually a "threadkiller"! But I have to say...wow! I can't even believe what I'm reading. I have no opinion on this matter because I have no children, I pay for me, and I genuinely don't care what other people do or teach their kids (other than abuse, of course...that's wrong). I haven't payed attention to who said what or who made what assumptions about whichever poster, but by golly...this thread sounds like a 6th grade classrom! Even if you don't agree with what someone has done, can't you atleast respect them as a human being and not put "words into their posts"?

Again, while I follow the "rules", I don't care who sneaks in a three year old or who uses strollers as battering rams or who reuses mugs or who pool hops or who makes multiple ADRs for the same time or any other flameworthy thread. What does bother me is when fellow posters get a butt whooping on the boards for simply explaining the their experience and offering another view. I'm all for a healthy debate, but a few of the replies have been downright nasty (really, only a few...but it was enough to make me feel like I've gotta say something).

Ok...sorry to anyone who feels I may have offended them and sorry for busting in the thread like this and sorry if you don't like what I said. Really, I am sorry. I don't want to ruffle feathers...just had to say something because I felt bad for an honest poster who had a few of her fellow DISers say some really nasty comments.

We cool?

 

[dvcnewgirl]

And for all the folks who steal by not paying for their 3 yr olds remember this when Disney adjusts the free age to under 2 or even under 1 like Sesame Place. I think Disney is quite generous with 3 yrs of age, but If people keep cheating I see them lowering it soon like they did with the dining age.

I hope this doesn't happen to punish all of us. To be honest when my daughter just turned 3 I felt like I was the only one paying for my 3 yo. A lot of people do not pay and I would hate to have to pay for my son at 2 because of it.

 

[Zoesmama03]

They didn't ask us for anything but she was only 2 years 3 months. And then they gave my husband and I kids rate. LOL We went back right away when we realized it was not adult tickets.


I think if someone was gonna question it would be at the gate. Better to just pay though. Its reduced rate.

 

[CampbellScot]

I rarely post on these threads...and when I do, I'm usually a "threadkiller"! But I have to say...wow! I can't even believe what I'm reading. I have no opinion on this matter because I have no children, I pay for me, and I genuinely don't care what other people do or teach their kids (other than abuse, of course...that's wrong). I haven't payed attention to who said what or who made what assumptions about whichever poster, but by golly...this thread sounds like a 6th grade classrom! Even if you don't agree with what someone has done, can't you atleast respect them as a human being and not put "words into their posts"?

Again, while I follow the "rules", I don't care who sneaks in a three year old or who uses strollers as battering rams or who reuses mugs or who pool hops or who makes multiple ADRs for the same time or any other flameworthy thread. What does bother me is when fellow posters get a butt whooping on the boards for simply explaining the their experience and offering another view. I'm all for a healthy debate, but a few of the replies have been downright nasty (really, only a few...but it was enough to make me feel like I've gotta say something).

Ok...sorry to anyone who feels I may have offended them and sorry for busting in the thread like this and sorry if you don't like what I said. Really, I am sorry. I don't want to ruffle feathers...just had to say something because I felt bad for an honest poster who had a few of her fellow DISers say some really nasty comments.

We cool?

It's frustrating for those of us who pay for our children to go into the parks when others don't. Especially when they come to a high traffic Disney board and brag about it and ENCOURAGE others to lie and steal as well. Why? Because it affects all of us cost wise in the end. Why have rules at all? Taking an "I don't care what others do" stance is just as bad. Do shoplifters not bother you either? Because their stealing raises the prices for everyone. Consumers have a right to be angry when the lack of ethics in others raises prices for those of us who have some morals.

Placid acceptance of wrong doing is just as bad as doing it yourself.

A troll started this thread and I have GOT to stop coming here...but I can't stand it when people make statements about not caring when others break the rules. That attitude is RUINING this country.

 

[sha_lyn]

follow the rules. I do not bring mugs back on future trips (a pretty tacky thing to do, IMHO). I think they are the same kind of ethics although I feel that sneaking a kid in is a bit worse due to the 'lying' factor and the fact that its $300 your getting out of it vs. $10 for a mug but they are both wrong, IMHO.

ITA

Great example of how lying confuses /affects kids.
We were in the theater watching a Disney movie a couple of yrs ago. The girl sitting behind DD started talking to her. Age came up and the girl girl said "at home I'm 4, but at the theater I'm 2 because daddy isn't paying for me to see a stupid disney movie"

And for all the folks who steal by not paying for their 3 yr olds remember this when Disney adjusts the free age to under 2 or even under 1 like Sesame Place. I think Disney is quite generous with 3 yrs of age, but If people keep cheating I see them lowering it soon like they did with the dining age.

What I wish they would do, is go to height based ticket prices like SF does.
It's sort of hard to lie about ones height (well other than the stuffing of shoes to get kids past the height restrictions on rides, but that is another debate)

 

[Zoesmama03]

What I wish they would do, is go to height based ticket prices like SF does.
It's sort of hard to lie about ones height (well other than the stuffing of shoes to get kids past the height restrictions on rides, but that is another debate)

That is an idea. Since rides are based on height and I think the idea behind free admission is because they don't get to do as much stuff. But my problem with that is that just because they are taller doesn't mean they'd be ready to actually ride those rides.

 

[DaisyLynn]

Placid acceptance of wrong doing is just as bad as doing it yourself.

A troll started this thread and I have GOT to stop coming here...but I can't stand it when people make statements about not caring when others break the rules. That attitude is RUINING this country.

I just wanted to get my point across that I have no stance on this issue...I don't have children. I don't pay or not pay for any child at all. As far as me not caring, what you do with your children is not my place. I said I don't care WHO does these things...I never said I didn't care that it happened. I know it happens and it will continue to happen, whether any of us like it or not. I'm not going to string up someone who is offering another side that I may disagree with. That was the point of my post. I'm sorry if it was confusing.

I do have to disagree with the statement "Placid acceptance of wrong doing is just as bad as doing it yourself." I'm a bit offended by this, I have to admit. To me, it sounds like you believe that I would do the same in the situation. I wouldn't. And I never said I accepted it. I simply acknowledged the opinions and experience of another, respectfully. Sometimes we just have to agree to disagree.

 

[CampbellScot]

This is not an issue in which people can just "agree to disagree". Stealing is illegal. It's against the law. Respectfully acknowledging another's choice to steal?! I don't get it.

If we as consumers do not voice our anger at the choices of others that in turn effect us...we are all but saying..."Please don't follow the rules. We don't mind". But we DO mind. It DOES make us angry. We are the ones who have the right to be offended and angry. People who steal and lie and encourage others to steal and lie choose to risk the displeasure of others. It's the nature of the beast.

I'm just sick to death of people winking at the breaking of the rules that are in place for a reason. I'm sick of my life and the lives of my family and fellow consumers and Disney lovers for that matter having choices in their lives altered by the refusal to follow the rules by others. When you steal and break the rules Disney must respond by raising prices and making stricter rules. Maybe a family that could afford to go when their baby was still just one or two...won't be able to go in the future b/c of the people you are repsectfully acknowledging...

this could go on and on...but I'm sure you get my point. i'm tired of this kind of thing. I'm tired of people thinking that their needs and their children's needs are more important than anyone elses. No manners, no respect for rules or the rights of others...

before long the park will be filled with kids who were sneaked in, wearing heelys and smoking in non smoking sections of the park...

 

[sha_lyn]

But my problem with that is that just because they are taller doesn't mean they'd be ready to actually ride those rides.

IMHO height would be a better standard to base price ve age.
While I see your point, there will always be people who can't/won't do everything that they can.
IE... my DH hates coasters, I could complain that there should be a lower ticket price for him. My mom has severe motion sickness. She could expect a lower ticket because she can't do simulators. There are people with physical dificulities/injuries etc that can't ride anything/everything.

This is not an issue in which people can just "agree to disagree". Stealing is illegal. It's against the law. Respectfully acknowledging another's choice to steal?! I don't get it.

ITA. I don't get the argument either. It isn't "none of my business" when someone break the law.
In the past people have said that breaking WDW policy isn't "breaking the law". However there are several laws that could apply. In the case of not buying a ticket for a 3 yr old, it would be theft of services. While people really don't think about it, by purchasing a ticket to WDW, you are accepting to their terms of agreement.

 

[Hannathy]

CampbellScot I didn't want to repeat your whole post but I totally agree! Great Post. What a great summation of too many people now a days!