Asking for id for a three year old

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There are lots of people who can't ride the rides. There are lots of people confined to wheelchairs who cannot get out of them to ride. Yet, they go and they pay admission. There is plenty for everyone at WDW. Even the little kids under 3 love to see the characters. Should they be banned from any character contact because they didn't pay to enter the park???

If your child is three years old or older when you arrive at WDW, you are required to pay admission for them to enter the park.
 
I would like to find out what the free age was when Walt Disney first opened Disneyland. That might change my disagreement.

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As far as I know they paid the same as everyone because then you needed a ticket for every ride so they had to pay for tickets. And really at Disney there are very few rides that a 3 yr old can't go on, esp. if you read these boards with the size of the kids being talked about on here.
 
Question: I'm on the other end of the spectrum. My son is about to turn 9 this month, which makes him at the upper end of the child's DDP. He is VERY tall for his age (I'm 6' and hubby is 6'5"). Would you recommend that I take a copy of his birth cert. just in case? Will anyone question? (We have had to prove his age at his basketball games, football, etc. because the other coaches didn't believe he was within the age bracket! I've even overheard parents from other teams commenting on "that tall kid can't be 8!") I don't mind proving his age--I just hadn't thought about it until I read this thread!!

105 days until my kids' first trip!!!!
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There are lots of people who can't ride the rides. There are lots of people confined to wheelchairs who cannot get out of them to ride. Yet, they go and they pay admission. .

Don't even try to sell the idea that the wheelchair folks don't ride rides.... all of us know that is not true. There are special accommodations in just about every ride (except for thrill) for those in wheelchairs. Even IASW has special boats for disabled to make wheelchair transfer easy, and there are special Doom Buggies for wheelchair. (Btw, my 3 year old wouldn't ride either one of those attractions.) Even the maps have a diagram of which rides require transfer, stay in wheelchair/ECV etc. Some months there are more ECVs there than strollers.

Like I said before - only you know your kid, your situation and your comfort level. If you aren't comfortable, don't do it.
 

Question: Would you recommend that I take a copy of his birth cert. just in case?

Our experience is that servers don't question things. If they question, they can always ask the child who doesn't lie. I personally would not carry around a copy of a birth certificate for risk of losing it/identity theft.
 
The bottom line is that some people are comfortable breaking the rules and teaching their children that it's ok to lie. I choose otherwise.

To the poster who has a tall kid (like mine): My son has been a head or more taller than most kids his age his entire life. Though I used to take his birth certificate with me, I was never questioned. It felt good to be prepared, however.
 
Question: I'm on the other end of the spectrum. My son is about to turn 9 this month, which makes him at the upper end of the child's DDP. He is VERY tall for his age (I'm 6' and hubby is 6'5"). Would you recommend that I take a copy of his birth cert. just in case? Will anyone question? (We have had to prove his age at his basketball games, football, etc. because the other coaches didn't believe he was within the age bracket! I've even overheard parents from other teams commenting on "that tall kid can't be 8!") I don't mind proving his age--I just hadn't thought about it until I read this thread!!

105 days until my kids' first trip!!!!
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I did and will this trip... I forgot to mention in my post my son was 9 turning 10 6 weeks after are trip also. He looked older.. I was never questioned with either kids but I would rather be safe than sorry.

I am sure my dd may say 3 if asked during my summer trip.. since we will talk about her birthday before we go..
 
Please don't flame me for what I'm about to say - it is honest, and it is our decision. If it makes you uncomfortable - please don't read...
Just carry the child in, or put child in a stroller and give them something to eat/drink or a map to look at so they won't talk.

I wouldn't push it past a couple months though.

It doesn't make me uncomfortable, so I read it.
I had a question like this within my first five posts, so I have been here. I posted and was flamed but I came to understand those flames. You are going on a vacation and enjoying your children at a beautiful, clean amusement/resort. If your child is 3 or older that is part of the vacation. If you don't want to pay, then choose another vacation. You are a consumer who enjoys the product (I hope) so pay for it and reap the pleasure from your 3 year old. Be proud to pay for them, as they are proud to be 3, instead of complaining how Disney already makes enough from your family. I understand where the OP is coming from, it can be expensive to plan and some try to "budget " in shady areas. Please do not judge them with their first post or encourage behavior to get by.
Next they'll cut your child in the character line, push over a lark, occupied by someone who really doesn't need one, to take the last seat on the bus. (Those are the usuals, right?:stir: )
 
Great point Jennyvelaz! I hadn't thought about it in that light (although I would never think of asking my kid's to lie and I always try to be as honest as possible, hey we make mistakes right?).
 
The bottom line is that some people are comfortable breaking the rules and teaching their children that it's ok to lie. I choose otherwise.

Oh, please. Teaching my children to lie? If you want to get personal about this - I could make a comment about teaching your children to be judgmental.
 
I apologize if I have offended anyone by saying I would feel wrong in asking my child to lie. That is my beliefs and I don't wish to push that on anyone on this board.
 
I apologize if I have offended anyone by saying I would feel wrong in asking my child to lie. That is my beliefs and I don't wish to push that on anyone on this board.

You have no reason to apologize texasRob... you are teaching your child the right thing.
 
Oh, please. Teaching my children to lie? If you want to get personal about this - I could make a comment about teaching your children to be judgmental.

Oh please, so what are you doing then? Telling people that Junior is 2 in front of Junior is telling Junior that it is cool to lie if it saves a few bucks. "Mommy, I'm 3." "Hush now, don't let anyone hear you."

Look at it this way - the grocery store makes a bunch of money off of me too, but it doesn't mean that I should help myself to a free steak every once in a while because of it.
 
It Be proud [/B]to pay for them, as they are proud to be 3, instead of complaining how Disney already makes enough from your family. I understand where the OP is coming from, it can be expensive to plan and some try to "budget " in shady areas. Please do not judge them with their first post or encourage behavior to get by.

Actually, it is not just about the money. For us, there was absolutely no measurable difference between the enjoyment our children had at Disney when going at two years eleven months and three years three months. The only difference is Disney's rules, and if I really thought we were "stealing" or "teaching our children to lie" then we wouldn't have done it. I have never asked either of our children to say anything that is not true, and I really don't appreciate the inference.

I appreciate those of you who are not throwing self-righteous and judgmental barbs at those of us who make different choices. Actually I have never tried to convince anyone of our point of view - I just have said that it is a personal decision, and folks need to do what they feel is best for their situation.

Regardless - I have work to do tonight and it appears that I have used this as a vehicle to procrastinate that work. I am finished with the debate and won't be engaging anymore ... I just wanted to give feedback to the individual who started the question by sharing our experiences and to others who may have the same questions but were not brave enough to step into the fray.

Best regards to all, and I'll see you on the list! :hippie:
 
Please don't flame me for what I'm about to say - it is honest, and it is our decision. If it makes you uncomfortable - please don't read...

Our kids birthdays are in September, and we have taken a big December trip every year. As it turned out, at some points in these vacations our kids were 3 and 3 months, respectively, when we went. We did not get them a ticket and we were never asked at all.

First off - why??? We go to Disney about 3 or 4 times a year and all and all I can attest that Disney gets plenty of dough from us. I didn't particularly feel guilty, because the rest of us had annual passes, and the youngest kid (3 years 3 months) really didn't ride anything other than an occasional Small World, Carrousel or watched a parade. Seriously - our kids were not adventurous at that age, so we were actually spending more $$ when you think of counter service costs, souveniers, etc (which we definitely bought.) We will continue to go there multiple times a year for the rest of our lives, so over time that one trip will really come out in the wash. Plus - since we had annual passes, we would have either had to buy a totally new annual pass for the just turned 3 kid (with new expiration dates different from the family) or park hopper that would just sit, because we would be buying a new AP the following year. And really when you buy an annual pass it is not like Disney gets a buck for each time you enter. Anyway, I can justify it all day long - but the bottom line is that either you feel comfortable doing it or you don't. There are certainly excellent arguments for both, so I would say do what is in your comfort zone and what, all things considered, would be reasonable for everyone involved.

That said - if you want to do it, my best advice is to try to keep the kid from talking. Size won't distinguish a 2, 3 or 4 year old necessarily, but verbal ability will. I wasn't the least bit worried when my now 5 year old was 3 years 3 months, because he was sitting in the double stroller next to his sister who was 2 years younger, and therefore he looked younger. However, when she was 3 years 3 months, she could really talk well... plus he was huge so I wasn't quite as confident.

Anyway - remember that 3 is generally the universal age when most kids can tell you how old they are, so if you are worried try to make sure you just go through quickly so CM won't talk to you or child.

However, what we found is - by and large CMs don't care. The wait staff doesn't care at a buffet, because they are looking for a better tip. They aren't going to cross examine you - and for that reason we tipped VERY well if we ever took her to a buffet (she ate like next to nothing.) The front guard folks generally don't care either. Just carry the child in, or put child in a stroller and give them something to eat/drink or a map to look at so they won't talk.

I wouldn't push it past a couple months though.

OK...I just couldn't resist this thread...

Don't flame you????? Why shouldn't we?????

This is not even about the money!!!! It's about ethics!!!!!!!!!!

Are you that cheap that you can't pay for a ticket that you ETHICLY should pay for???? What is this teaching your kids?????

Disney rarely asks the ages because they expect parents to tell the truth.

And I agree with a previous poster that because of situations like this, pretty soon Disney will be charging the 1 and 2 year olds. How fair is that???

If you don't want to pay...DON'T GO!!!!!

OK...I'm done....
 
DD2 turns 3 in Oct. We were originally planning a trip in Nov., a month after she turns 3. I wanted Nov. for the temps during the school break. I didn't want summer for the temps and humidity. For ethical reasons, we went ahead and changed our trip dates to avoid paying for her. We are going in May since our oldest gets out of school earlier than many others. It'll be warmer, but I'm sure they will enjoy it anyway.

I couldn't look my older kids 5 and 11 in the face if they heard me tell someone she was 2 in order to get her in for free.
 
Don't even try to sell the idea that the wheelchair folks don't ride rides.... all of us know that is not true. There are special accommodations in just about every ride (except for thrill) for those in wheelchairs. Even IASW has special boats for disabled to make wheelchair transfer easy, and there are special Doom Buggies for wheelchair. (Btw, my 3 year old wouldn't ride either one of those attractions.) Even the maps have a diagram of which rides require transfer, stay in wheelchair/ECV etc. Some months there are more ECVs there than strollers.
Having traveled to WDW for the past 18 years with someone using a wheelchair, I need to clarify and correct what you wrote.

There is a special boat wheelchair accessible boat for IASW, but the special Doom Buggies don't allow a person using a wheelchair to stay in the wheelchair - they just have a wider door to make the transfer a bit easier. Even with the wider door, it's not an easy transfer. Most of the attractions at MK require a transfer and many of them are hard transfers (not easy to lift someone down into a POC boat and Peter Pan is close to impossible because the moving walkway on that ride can't be stopped.)
If someone can't get out of their wheelchair, or can't get out easily, there are many attractions that are not accessible to them. Because AK and the Studio were built fairly recently, they have more attractions that are completly accessible, but there are attractions even in those parks that are not accessible to people using wheelchairs unless they can get out of the wheelchair and make a transfer to the ride car.
Many of the special wheelchair ride cars will not accomidate all wheelchairs; some wheelchairs don't fit.

This is the list from the official WDW site that require a transfer out of a wheelchair:
MK
Attractions requiring Guests to transfer from their wheelchair to board the attraction include:

Astro Orbiter
Big Thunder Mountain Railroad
Cinderella's Golden Carousel
Dumbo the Flying Elephant
Mad Tea Party
Main Street Vehicles
Mad Tea Party
Peter Pan's Flight
Pirates of the Caribbean
Snow White's Scary Adventures
Space Mountain®
Splash Mountain®
Swiss Family Treehouse - Guest must be ambulatory
The Barnstormer at Goofy's Wiseacre Farm
The Haunted Mansion
Tomorrowland® Indy Speedway

Epcot
Wonders of Life: Body Wars (seasonal)
Norway: Maelstrom
Mission: SPACE
Spaceship Earth
Test Track
The Land: Soarin'™

Studio
Rock 'n' Roller Coaster® starring Aerosmith
Star Tours
"The Twilight Zone Tower of Terror™"

AK
DINOSAUR
Expedition Everest™
Primeval Whirl
Kali River Rapids
 
Actually, it is not just about the money. For us, there was absolutely no measurable difference between the enjoyment our children had at Disney when going at two years eleven months and three years three months. The only difference is Disney's rules, and if I really thought we were "stealing" or "teaching our children to lie" then we wouldn't have done it. I have never asked either of our children to say anything that is not true, and I really don't appreciate the inference.

I appreciate those of you who are not throwing self-righteous and judgmental barbs at those of us who make different choices. Actually I have never tried to convince anyone of our point of view - I just have said that it is a personal decision, and folks need to do what they feel is best for their situation.

Regardless - I have work to do tonight and it appears that I have used this as a vehicle to procrastinate that work. I am finished with the debate and won't be engaging anymore ... I just wanted to give feedback to the individual who started the question by sharing our experiences and to others who may have the same questions but were not brave enough to step into the fray.

Best regards to all, and I'll see you on the list! :hippie:

if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck...

you are telling a lie to get out of paying for your kid. You are breaking the rules. Period. There is no way around it. It's not like you are choosing to feed your child a macrobiotic diet...a lot of people wouldn't agree with it, but THAT is a personal choice you are entitled to...flat out lying b/c you feel above the rules is not something you should even try to defend. You were actually instructing the OP (who was totally a troll by the way...and I'm totally giving that person what they want by responding...) to "distract" their child and keep them from talking around CM's at the gate...are you kidding me? I'm not infering anything...You are asking your child to lie...instructing him NOT to do something he CAN do so that he appears younger is asking your child to LIE by omission...you are CLOAKING your child in deception. You are encouraging others to lie. It's WRONG. It ends up costing everyone. Trying to defend yourself or even acting offended is rediculous. You put it out there that you lie. So deal with the consequences of your actions.

there is nothing to debate. There is no fray. Telling a lie to get around the rules is not okay. You know it's true.

now that I have fed the troll I will go to bed now. :goodvibes
 
My son turned 3 while we were there. I had no problems with getting him in for free because he was 2 when we started the trip. I don't see a problem with it as long as he looks his age.

Well if we are only going by what age people look then many of us would have to pay for our very tall 2 year olds! If your kid is 2 then he/she doesn't pay. If they are 3 or older they pay. It's very simple. If you kid turns 3 on a trip then they are 2 when the trip starts so no ticket needed. I can never understand why people want their kids to lie.....:confused3
 
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