As feared Forbidden Journey is Not for Many

[Slacking]

i think you will fit imho. i just watched the video and the 3 clicks seems impossible not to get to unless you are over 6 ft or over 300 lbs

6 Feet exactly here, and under 300 pounds. I did not get 3 clicks.

That video is misleading. We see the large guy sit on the bench as he goes camera and then we hear clicks (his? his whole benches?) we actually don't see him putting his restraint down.

 

[bouncy54]

6 Feet exactly here, and under 300 pounds. I did not get 3 clicks.

That video is misleading. We see the large guy sit on the bench as he goes camera and then we hear clicks (his? his whole benches?) we actually don't see him putting his restraint down.

I'm becoming convinced that it has more to do with the proportion of the bottom half of the body than the top half. The smaller the butt and thighs are, the more room you have to slide back into the seat which gives room for the harness to lock over the upper part of the body.
What do you think?

 

[seadd67]

My husband is 6 ft and 280 and he rode (broad shoulders and big chest) so please try to stop worrying. You guys will have a blast.

I am just a little shorter and about 20# less so there Is hope out there!!

 

[seadd67]

I wonder if it's the addition of the "s" that makes the difference. Let's see...

Chicken breast

Chicken breasts

Or maybe the addition of "chicken" is what does the trick.

ETA: Okay, I gotta try it without the "chicken"...

Breasts!

ETA x 2: Oh... was the original "b-word" a different one? Say, with two "o"s in the middle? As in "Some politicians are ****s."

ETA the Last: Yep, that's it!

ok that made my day laugh untill I hurt Thanks!!

 

[contemporarymom]

Originally Posted by contemporarymom View Post
I'm honestly not trying to start anything or be cruel, but you do realize this person and another who was denied (I believe 5'8"/230-240) are considered medically obese. While some might refer to themselves as "shrek sized", barrel chested, big boned etc., the bottom line is these people are to large to safely ride. When designing a ride the engineers need to work with the median, not the extremes to ensure safety.

I would hardly call someone 5'8" and 230 extreme. Overweight, absolutely. Obese, yes probably. But, you're going to find a lot of people that size, so definitely not extreme.

The worldwide percentage of people like the aforementioned 5'8"/230 person who are considered medically obese is under 15% (Even in the US it stands currently at 31% and we are the highest worldwide). So yes, based on percentages, that is an extreme. As I stated earlier, when designing a ride like this you can not take into account the extremes but need to take into account the majority.

 

[seadd67]

The worldwide percentage of people like the aforementioned 5'8"/230 person who are considered medically obese is under 15% (Even in the US it stands currently at 31% and we are the highest worldwide). So yes, based on percentages, that is an extreme. As I stated earlier, when designing a ride like this you can not take into account the extremes but need to take into account the majority.

But see you are trying to start something!, your throwing out %'s,really like any one here can not tell you If there overweight or not you odioulsy dont care for Obesse people or you would not go out of your way to make the point!!. Medically Obese?, so because the medical feild says something that must be true right? I dont think so. If you are comfortable with who you are,who cares what the medical feild says. They Build theses rides to get as many people on them as posspile, and trust me they can build anything safetly for the right amount of money. US just chose not to,just plaine and simple!. Thats ok,thats up to them but trying to say they built this for safety reasons Is really kind of funny. Look at other rides that are much more complecated,Hulk,DD Rock N roll they all go up side down. On the hulk they have bigger seats I dont think they ask to see the latest graph on over weight people then!. At WDW there everyone Is Included. If you dont like someone dont say anything.

 

[contemporarymom]

But see you are trying to start something!, your throwing out %'s,really like any one here can not tell you If there overweight or not you odioulsy dont care for Obesse people or you would not go out of your way to make the point!!. Medically Obese?, so because the medical feild says something that must be true right? I dont think so. If you are comfortable with who you are,who cares what the medical feild says. They Build theses rides to get as many people on them as posspile, and trust me they can build anything safetly for the right amount of money. US just chose not to,just plaine and simple!. Thats ok,thats up to them but trying to say they built this for safety reasons Is really kind of funny. Look at other rides that are much more complecated,Hulk,DD Rock N roll they all go up side down. On the hulk they have bigger seats I dont think they ask to see the latest graph on over weight people then!. At WDW there everyone Is Included. If you dont like someone dont say anything.

Please don't assume things because in this situation you couldn't be more off base if you tried. My father, my MIL and SIL are all considered medically obese and I sure as heck love and adore them. I actually agree with you. It doesn't matter what a person looks like as long as they are happy with themselves. But please lets be honest and call it like it is. If you are X'X'' height and you weigh X, you are considered medically obese and because of that you may have a problem getting on this particular ride.

I'm simply saying that for this particular ride, the mechanics and safety involved are geared towards the majority and not the minority. Disney has plenty of rides that a minority of individuals for different reasons are precluded from riding. Heart conditions, back problems, a tendency towards motion sickness, pregnancy and height are just a few of the reasons. If every ride everywhere was designed for every single person we'd have a heck of a lot of very boring rides.

Do not single out Universal and say that they and this ride are the only ones that preclude people from riding because that is just simply not the case.

 

[02134_HHN]

The worldwide percentage of people like the aforementioned 5'8"/230 person who are considered medically obese is under 15% (Even in the US it stands currently at 31% and we are the highest worldwide). So yes, based on percentages, that is an extreme. As I stated earlier, when designing a ride like this you can not take into account the extremes but need to take into account the majority.

Obesity, or Morbid Obesity, is determined by body fat percentage, not by weight and height. As far as taking into account the majority, according to the CDC, obese American adults are at 34%, and 67% are classified as "overweight or obese."

And before you say it, I realize that you're trying to narrow your point to only the obese, but I'm sure there are taller folks out there that can't ride because of the combination of them being tall and simply overweight, not technically obese. I guess the lesson here is, if you're tall, you'd better be skinny, because there is no margin of error.

Whatever you feel about the subject, I think anyone would see that's a large number of people to leave out. And I agree with the other poster: You're trying to start something.

 

[Albytaps]

People forget that FJ is not even really "open" yet. These are soft openings or previews so maybe they're still testing things out. There haven't been too many posts the last few days about people not being able to ride. On the contrary, more folks have been posting that they got on and saw many large people ride without problems.

After the 18th we'll know more.

 

[muffyn]

Crikey! I don't think my girls are going to make it. 42I's here...but I have no bum at all and skinny-minnie legs. I'm 5'9" and 220. I was really looking forward to it, but like someone else said, I am a little embarrassed to try. Is the test seat very conspicuous? Is everyone watching you trying to smooooooosh your "melons" down for the 3rd click? We are going in Sept. What to do? What to do?

speaking of........
anyone know how this compares to the seats on Kraken ( Sea world)?
now that seat , I, had the hardest to smoosh melons , Hulk & DD were easier!

and. about space. how does personal space figure in on the benches? are you squoooshed together on this? been on DD with a few shreks, & that was um, pretty tight.

 

[seadd67]

Please don't assume things because in this situation you couldn't be more off base if you tried. My father, my MIL and SIL are all considered medically obese and I sure as heck love and adore them. I actually agree with you. It doesn't matter what a person looks like as long as they are happy with themselves. But please lets be honest and call it like it is. If you are X'X'' height and you weigh X, you are considered medically obese and because of that you may have a problem getting on this particular ride.

I'm simply saying that for this particular ride, the mechanics and safety involved are geared towards the majority and not the minority. Disney has plenty of rides that a minority of individuals for different reasons are precluded from riding. Heart conditions, back problems, a tendency towards motion sickness, pregnancy and height are just a few of the reasons. If every ride everywhere was designed for every single person we'd have a heck of a lot of very boring rides.

Do not single out Universal and say that they and this ride are the only ones that preclude people from riding because that is just simply not the case.

So where does it say If you are Medicaly Obese you can not ride and who at US determins that? Other rides, and at WDW It does say If you have neck or hart problems etc, Its recomended you do not ride,they do not actually keep you from rideing It,there at US Is singled out. Again your takeing the stance where some one Is assumeing that a certain typ of weight Is the majority.
I applogize I did not try to assume what you are thinking,my fault.
I just belive when you are Building anything for the genreal public,you have to build It for evryone,Height,weight age disabilty etc. Now In fairness,It was posted that this Is the soft opening not the official one. They accomdated on the Hulk,with the bigger seats and It seems that the Hulk Is much more Intense? and could cause much more of the so called medical conditions that they say JF could cause. Sorry I am not trying to argue
and I will just say we will agree to disagree and hope for the best for everyone. By the way are you going to be able to ride It this year?,we are going In a few weeks

 

[DBEAR]

New here but I just wanted to add my opinion since I have actually dealt with the Forbidden seats. Chest and stomach size can be roughly 48-49 inches. Anything above will NOT fit. This is only if you are proportionately overweight. If you have a large chest or stomach that sticks out then you may not fit even at that size. A large rear can also cause a problem since the harness fits snugly against your thighs. If you have very large thighs, it could also cause a problem. As far as this being a soft opening, it doesn't matter. I have talked to many TMs and this is it for now. The seats in front of the ride are calibrated every day but may be a little off from those inside. Also there are many people who can't ride but they never even go through the line. They simply turn away once they get disappointed outside. Also if you fit on Sum of All Thrills at Epcot it does not mean you fit on Forbidden Journey. Bothe use the roboarm technology but the seats and harness at FJ are more restricting.

 

[Magpie]

So where does it say If you are Medicaly Obese you can not ride and who at US determins that? Other rides, and at WDW It does say If you have neck or hart problems etc, Its recomended you do not ride,they do not actually keep you from rideing It,there at US Is singled out. Again your takeing the stance where some one Is assumeing that a certain typ of weight Is the majority.
I applogize I did not try to assume what you are thinking,my fault.
I just belive when you are Building anything for the genreal public,you have to build It for evryone,Height,weight age disabilty etc. Now In fairness,It was posted that this Is the soft opening not the official one. They accomdated on the Hulk,with the bigger seats and It seems that the Hulk Is much more Intense? and could cause much more of the so called medical conditions that they say JF could cause. Sorry I am not trying to argue
and I will just say we will agree to disagree and hope for the best for everyone. By the way are you going to be able to ride It this year?,we are going In a few weeks

It says right on the sign outside the castle, along with the usual pregnancy warnings and back problem warnings. Something along the lines of, "Certain body dimensions may not be able to ride."

There are test seats outside, staffed by a TM who will be able to help you if you're not sure whether you fit.

Apparently the TMs are being tactful about pulling people out of line to test them. They've all been described as being very, very nice.

Also, while the TMs are not allowed to push down on the restraints (for fear of hurting you), you CAN get a friend to help push down. That way, if you're close and you don't mind some squishing, you can still get to ride.

ALL coasters have limits, even at Disney. Some may have a few bigger seats, but even those have safety limits and some very large people will not fit, even in those big seats. They will not put people who are unsafe into the seats, because the seat won't lock properly and no one wants to see that person go flying off the coaster at a high speed.

You can't tell by looking if a person has a heart condition, so that's a "recommendation". You CAN measure a person's height, and ask them to sit in a test seat, so those are "limits".

The only ride that's open to absolutely everyone is a floating boat ride like "The Land" and "Small World". I'm glad they didn't do that to Harry Potter.

Enjoy your trip!

 

[bubba's mom]

There haven't been too many posts the last few days about people not being able to ride.

I've noticed that and that there haven't been many reports of the ride stopping and/or breaking down like there was in the beginning. If that's true, that didn't really take all that long to work those bugs out.

 

[damo]

I've noticed that and that there haven't been many reports of the ride stopping and/or breaking down like there was in the beginning. If that's true, that didn't really take all that long to work those bugs out.

When we were there last week, we found that everything was running very smoothly and they were constantly making changes. Sounds like the area is open all day now and that will make about 1 full week of full softs before the grand opening.

 

[Planogirl]

It says right on the sign outside the castle, along with the usual pregnancy warnings and back problem warnings. Something along the lines of, "Certain body dimensions may not be able to ride."

There are test seats outside, staffed by a TM who will be able to help you if you're not sure whether you fit.

Apparently the TMs are being tactful about pulling people out of line to test them. They've all been described as being very, very nice.

Also, while the TMs are not allowed to push down on the restraints (for fear of hurting you), you CAN get a friend to help push down. That way, if you're close and you don't mind some squishing, you can still get to ride.

ALL coasters have limits, even at Disney. Some may have a few bigger seats, but even those have safety limits and some very large people will not fit, even in those big seats. They will not put people who are unsafe into the seats, because the seat won't lock properly and no one wants to see that person go flying off the coaster at a high speed.

You can't tell by looking if a person has a heart condition, so that's a "recommendation". You CAN measure a person's height, and ask them to sit in a test seat, so those are "limits".

The only ride that's open to absolutely everyone is a floating boat ride like "The Land" and "Small World". I'm glad they didn't do that to Harry Potter.

Enjoy your trip!

I just pictured lots of Harry Potter dolls singing while we drift past. Don't do that!

 

[kris1977]

I just belive when you are Building anything for the genreal public,you have to build It for evryone,Height,weight age disabilty etc. :

Thats impossible. It doesnt happen anywhere and that includes Disney. there are height, weight and size restrictions on all rides, Disney just so happens to accomodate more people because their rides are less extreem. Their most extreem ride is probably rock n Rollercoaster and most definately not everyone fits into that with the over the shoulder restraints.

 

[DBEAR]

The reason you don't hear many new complaints is because the locals are the ones going right now. They have already been there multiple times. The other day I counted at least 10 people within 5 minutes who turned away outside at the test seats. Wait till next week and it's packed. By the way, Uni has a TM who stands there by the entrance and marks a line on their clipboard everytime someone doesn't fit on the outside test seats. That sheet had alot of lines the other day. Considering their great attendance figures the last few years you would think they might want to fix this. And yes I'm being sarcastic.

 

[chrisn]

Can someone tell me more about...not large...but tall?

My DD's BF is going back with us in October. He is a bean pole. Tall and VERY thin...lanky. I believe my DD said 6'3 1/2 - 155 lbs.

Does anyone think someone with his height might have an issue?

DD says he has a long torso but his legs look pretty long to me too so maybe he is balanced.

I'm just not sure whether to mention this concern to him or not.

 

[damo]

Can someone tell me more about...not large...but tall?

My DD's BF is going back with us in October. He is a bean pole. Tall and VERY thin...lanky. I believe my DD said 6'3 1/2 - 155 lbs.

Does anyone think someone with his height might have an issue?

DD says he has a long torso but his legs look pretty long to me too so maybe he is balanced.

I'm just not sure whether to mention this concern to him or not.

He'll be fine. There have been people that height who have ridden already.