Army Plans Involuntary Call-Up of Thousands

[Truth]

The following reply may be skipped over as it is only for anyone that is planning to

"Celebrate Retirement in WDW!!" in 39 days.

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Sorry for not remembering the user name you used before you were banned the last time.

Irregardless

Truth is not fond of explaining things to people that have shown an inability to understand certain concepts and ideas or have thru various discussions revealed a mind so sure of itself that
it would be a waste of time and effort for anyone to try to suggest that there could possibly be other reasons, conclusions or answers.

Add to this the fact that Truth does not knowingly
converse with anyone that reverts to profane name calling when their ability to suffer fools is surpassed and you might begin to get some idea of how repulsive it is to convey this one time only reply to you.

It is left to you that Truth does not require explanations for much of anything pertaining to the Military arm of the United States government
and there is nothing about anything that Truth needs an explanation for from you.
It is known by Truth that irregardless is not a word but since this opportunity presented itself it seemed a shame not to offer you the chance to possibly feel a little of what it's like to be
in the dark about something that seems to be about you.
Now you may of course post anything anywhere you choose but from now on you should feel no lack of understanding at why Truth will never respond to you.
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Apologies to anyone that read this and felt that
to ignore the person would have been the better choice. That is correct of course but since this seemed like it might save the person some pointless typing in future it was the polite thing to do.

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Preceding was commentary/opinion and the degree to which it is true will to some extent depend on the individual reading it.

 

[dawgfan]

Are you referring to youself here?

"or have thru various discussions revealed a mind so sure of itself that
it would be a waste of time and effort for anyone to try to suggest that there could possibly be other reasons, conclusions or answers."

 

[LScot]

I just thinking there is always a risk when you sign up for whatever reason you do. JMO.

 

[DawnCt1]

Originally posted by AirForceRocks

ITA that it is a hardship for those being called up, but I have a hard time categorizing it as "involuntary".

There are also a lot of reservists who don't want to continue with monthly drills and two weeks of AT who CHOOSE to go into the IRR so that they are considered a "deployable asset". A lot of physicians make this choice or commanders who have left command and do not want to leave the Army but also don't want to return to their units as a "non commander" for weekend drills and AT. You are correct that the I does not stand for "involuntary". They all volunteered when they signed up.

 

[AirForceRocks]

Originally posted by dawgfan
Are you referring to youself here?

"or have thru various discussions revealed a mind so sure of itself that
it would be a waste of time and effort for anyone to try to suggest that there could possibly be other reasons, conclusions or answers."

Must be, although I didn't realize that Truth was in the military and about to celebrate retirement...congratulations moof, er...um..Truth...BTW, why did you switch names?

Truth is not fond of explaining things to people that have shown an inability to understand certain concepts and ideas or have thru various discussions revealed a mind so sure of itself that it would be a waste of time and effort for anyone to try to suggest that there could possibly be other reasons, conclusions or answers.

Now, now moof - I don't need for you to explain what happens with IRR. I've actually read and signed the paperwork - I know what it means and what the results can be. As for your ignorance as to the reliance on the Guard and Reserve that has been built into the military structure by Congress, there isn't much I can do about that. I would however recommend the following link, as it contains lots of information about Total Force.
Such as:

A quiet evolution has occurred within the Total Force since the end of the Cold War. During the Cold War, the Reserve components were structured to contain and, if necessary, defeat the Soviet Union and its allies. In the post-Cold War era, the Reserve components now comprise a greater percentage of the Total Force and are essential partners in a wide range of military operations, from smaller-scale contingencies to major theater wars.

Guard and Reserve forces provide trained units and individuals to fight in wartime and to support the complete spectrum of DoD peacetime operations. Today, Reserve component forces are fully integrated into all war plans, and no major military operation can be successful without their participation.

Add to this the fact that Truth does not knowingly converse with anyone that reverts to profane name calling when their ability to suffer fools is surpassed and you might begin to get some idea of how repulsive it is to convey this one time only reply to you.

Profane name calling? Did someone do that? I must have missed it.

It is left to you that Truth does not require explanations for much of anything pertaining to the Military arm of the United States government and there is nothing about anything that Truth needs an explanation for from you.

Apparently there is much you don't know about the military arm of the United States government. But if you prefer to remain ignorant, that is certainly your choice.

Now you may of course post anything anywhere you choose but from now on you should feel no lack of understanding at why Truth will never respond to you.

There is no lack of understanding as to why you won't reply, just near orgasmic relief at not having to wade through your Yoda-like exhortations.

 

[minniepumpernickel]

Wow, I knew that there was something that I really liked about Truth!

May the Force be with you, Truth!

 

[Rutt and Tuke]

Originally posted by Truth

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Apologies to anyone that read this and felt that
to ignore the person would have been the better choice. That is correct of course but since this seemed like it might save the person some pointless typing in future it was the polite thing to do.

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Preceding was commentary/opinion and the degree to which it is true will to some extent depend on the individual reading it.

How terribly polite of you.

 

[AirForceRocks]

Originally posted by Rutt and Tuke
How terribly polite of you.

Don't you mean "Of you how terribly polite"?

 

[jfulcer]

Originally posted by AirForceRocks
There is no lack of understanding as to why you won't reply, just near orgasmic relief at not having to wade through your Yoda-like exhortations.

Oh man, I just wish there were a smiley that rolled on the floor laughing I could put here.

Anyway, another few quotes:

Originally posted by Truth
Your inability to understand if indeed that is what is what is, owes not so much to individual capacity as to being unaware of this weeks definitions of terms. Think newspeak.

Aw come on Truth, we don't need to put people down. If EsmeraldaX didn't understand, she didn't. Let's not try to assume something that you won't know. Talk like this is well beneath you, IMHO.

Originally posted by Truth
In Short, the reserves are no longer being used as reserves, they are part of the Standing Military, used without consideration for the hardships it causes and without the cost in Dollars that any honest understanding of the obligation would require of anyone before they would willingly agreee to it.

I have a hard time believing that anyone would go into the military without a clear understanding of that their <i>committment</i> would be. Pardon the comparison, but it's like having unprotected sex - "Oh, I don't think that she'll get pregnant. It couldn't ever happen to me..." Denial is a river in Egpyt, some would say.

 

[jfulcer]

Originally posted by AirForceRocks
Don't you mean "Of you how terribly polite"?

Kill me, do you.

 

[ToriLammy]

Originally posted by jfulcer
Oh man, I just wish there were a smiley that rolled on the floor laughing I could put here.

Here let me help!

It's how I feel about most of the OPs postings all the time.

 

[wvrevy]

Originally posted by Alice28
I have to say that I disagree with wvrevy on one point- there ARE actually some military men and women who sign up because they love their country and want to volunteer their time to serve, or, even give their life if it means freedom for the rest of our country and other peoples of the world.

Just for the record, I did say "Like most people that join..." I know full well that there are some that join for love of country or for other, less "selfish" reasons. But you're fooling yourself if you believe that it's anywhere near a majority.

JMO

 

[Saffron]

There is no lack of understanding as to why you won't reply, just near orgasmic relief at not having to wade through your Yoda-like exhortations.

ROTFLOL!

 

[Bumbles]

What's the big deal? What (he/she prefers to be perceived as) Truth like to conveniently leaves out is that all the military is doing is tapping the Individual Ready Reserve, a pool of 111,000 people that remain eligible for active duty for eight years after completing their Army service commitment. The last time it was used was in the 1991 Persian Gulf War. It is there for exactly this use.

Some are comparing this to a "back-door draft," but they're wrong. When you sign up for the military, you know the rules.
These people are being called up in accordance with the terms of a contract that they entered into voluntarily. They have received benefits under the contract they signed and now they need to
hold up their end of the bargain.

 

[SoonerKate]

The lefties? Some of us on the left are actually capable of understanding how these things work. I would hardly consider Truth to be a representative of the rest of us.

 

[Bumbles]

True Kate..sorry..did not mean for that to be offensive

Maybe I should change that so as not to offend all with liberal leanings....

 

[VampHeartless]

What really scares me about this, is the fact that these people ARE civilians...meaning, they have been out for some length of time...they are going to prepare for war out of shape, with no PT, no recent combat training, etc. This may be more of a liability to our trained soldiers than it's worth.

 

[AirForceRocks]

Originally posted by VampHeartless
What really scares me about this, is the fact that these people ARE civilians...meaning, they have been out for some length of time...they are going to prepare for war out of shape, with no PT, no recent combat training, etc. This may be more of a liability to our trained soldiers than it's worth.

This is the first valid argument I've heard against the call up.