Are there plans for the next DVC property?

[boatboatboat]

NJOYURLIFE I agree there is SO MUCH to due, we all seldom really take it all in.

I just want a 5th park to give me some elbow room. The mega crowds really take the magic away from my WDW stays. Always seems like a "race" to get in line before the masses come. fast pass this, fast pass that ......

Sure be nice to simply walk up to an atrraction and wait 10 min and get on. But that simply can't happen........

 

[La2kw]

Yup Dave, you caught us. I guess we'd better fess up. All the SSR fans are just shills hired by DVC to come on message boards and post great reviews on the boards. We got free park passes for doing it. Gee, I'm amazed you smoked us out. Kudos to you, o truthteller.

I had the same reaction to his post!

 

[La2kw]

Look how long it took for VB to sell. Did they alter those plans? When they decided to expand the plans sales were going well. Guess what, now that people can actually stay there and tour sales have come to a screeching hault.

DAVE

Actually, yes they did alter those plans. There were supposed to be additional DVC units across the road. That's why there's a tunnel there and some other recreational activities. They cancelled that part of the project and I believe they sold off some of the land.

 

[Disney Doll]

I think SSR is a lovely resort. I like the location...perhaps it is a more "adult oriented" location, but not all of us need to be kissing Mickey around every corner!!!!

I think the next DVC resort will probably be built at CR. I believe that area has an adequate amount of land to support a DVC, especially if they take down one of the garden wings and redo it, and they do like to add the DVCs onto existing hotels, SSR & OKW excluded. Of course, OKW was the "first" and hence the fact that it is a stand-alone and SSR was utilizing some of the infrastructure already in place for the DI, so not a bad idea there either. Why totally reinvent the wheel?

I think EP may happen someday, but I don't think it would be next.

I think a 5th park may happen someday, but I don't think it will be soon.

I think a lot of DVCers feel less of a compunction to commando tour the parks on every trip, because we know we'll be back. I know DH and I enjoy the resort a lot more now than we used to, and I htink it's because owning the DVC has taken away that feeling of "this may be our last trip for a long time".

 

[tomandrobin]

They will build another DVC resort after SSR. The DVC program as a whole, makes them alot of money. There is about 27,000 acres owned by Disney. I think there is a little more room for future parks and resorts. Plus, DVC has a pretty good work force and sales force that they probably would not dismantle after SSR. I have been told many times by Disney "people" there will be more DVC resorts.

There is also room at Pop Century for a future phase thats not been built yet. EP had the room, but is dead now. Contempory is so dated now, I DVC addition would definately give it new life. Poly is unlikely...just too limited on space. AKL is a good bet in the future, but probably not the next. And lets not forget that there may be true off-site resorts built, like HH and VB. Maybe one at or near Disneyland.

 

[La2kw]

JerJan he wants to DVC to make SSR a better resort for your family.

He thinks you deserve the best WDW has to offer.

So do I.......

Who knows maybe when DVC build a new pool at SSR that puts SAB to shame they will name the pool ,Daitcher's cement pond.

That's a bit condescending. Many of us prefer SSR just the way it is. The pool there is just as nice as the pools at other DVC resorts and comparing it to SAB is ridiculous. SAB is not typical for DVC properties. None of the other resorts, including WLV, BWV, VB, HH, or OKW have a pool like SAB. The only reason BCV has access to SAB is because it was shoehorned in to the BC after the fact. IMO, BCV has definitely taken away from the BC resort as it was originally designed. I am happy I have the option of using my OKW and SSR points there at the 7 month window, but I do miss the BC the way it originally was.

 

[boatboatboat]

When you say true "on site" resort,


I mean a resort where my wife and I can walk to the "attractions" in a very short period of time.

To me, from my perspective BWV is not on site to MK or AK. Nor is BW on-site to DD. BW is on site to Epcot and MGM, and the board walk stuff, and MGM but that is a gray area. Do keep in mind ALL the parks are simply a 15 min walk and a monorail away from BWV and BCV.

IMO juts because Disney owns it doesn't mean it is "on site".

I don't view the beach house at HH as "on site", but it is a 15 min walk. But to me the 2nd I leave Shelter Cove i am no longer "on site".

I understand DVC can't make SSR meet my on-site requirments, nor do i expect them to. I just wish they would make the resort so over the top, that being a bus ride from everything wouldn't matter.

 

[La2kw]

Many of us DVC owners go so often to WDW, we spend less time in the parks than regular visitors


But you DO GO "so often" that even if you only go to the parks every 2nd or 3rd day, you still end up in the park more often over the coruse of time then a non dvc owner.

I don't really understand what your post said. We have always spent at least two weeks at WDW, even before becoming DVC members. Living in California, it's too expensive to just go for a weekend or so. Since becoming DVC members, we spend the same amount of time at WDW, but spend less time in the parks. We bought the points to make the vacations we already plan to take more affordable. We didn't buy them so that we could go more often.

 

[RobDoc]

... Do keep in mind ALL the parks are simply a 15 min walk and a monorail away from BWV and BCV.

How is that monorail ride to AK, BB and TL and how long does it take? That doesn't seem to appear as an option on any of the WDW transportation guides, but it sure sounds interesting.

 

[La2kw]

When you say true "on site" resort,


I mean a resort where my wife and I can walk to the "attractions" in a very short period of time.

To me, from my perspective BWV is not on site to MK or AK. Nor is BW on-site to DD. BW is on site to Epcot and MGM, and the board walk stuff, and MGM but that is a gray area. Do keep in mind ALL the parks are simply a 15 min walk and a monorail away from BWV and BCV.

IMO juts because Disney owns it doesn't mean it is "on site".

I don't view the beach house at HH as "on site", but it is a 15 min walk. But to me the 2nd I leave Shelter Cove i am no longer "on site".

I understand DVC can't make SSR meet my on-site requirments, nor do i expect them to. I just wish they would make the resort so over the top, that being a bus ride from everything wouldn't matter.

I think the word you want is "adjacent" as opposed to "on site". BTW, MK and AK would take you much longer than 15 minutes to walk to from BWV and BCV. There is also no monorail that will take you to either park from those resorts.

 

[Tink10]

Very Funny!

 

[boatboatboat]

I don't really understand what your post said. We have always spent at least two weeks at WDW, even before becoming DVC members


I don't think most DVC owners went to WDW as much prior to becoming DVC owners as they do now that they own. In fact IMO a major reason WDW came up with DVC was to increase the number of times people would return to WDW.

How is that monorail ride to AK, BB and TL and how long does it take?


It normaly takes me about half of a flask, you should join me sometime.

 

[boatboatboat]

I think the word you want is "adjacent" as opposed to "on site".

no not really. IMO what has happened is that via a huge marketing department, WDW has gotten the masses to view a 10 min wait for a bus, and a 20 min bus ride, as something being "on site".

How far from the attraction can something be prior to no longer being viewed as "on site"?

If WDW were to obtain land another 3 miles from SSR and build a DVC there, would that also be "on site"?

What about 5 miles?

It never ends........

But maybe I mean adjacent?

 

[NMW]

I think the next DVC resort will be at the CR. There is plenty of space and those garden wings are so dated and ugly looking.

I could see AK too, added on like VWL or BCV.

I think Eagle Pines is a bad idea. We come to Disney to go to the parks everyday. We could golf at home! I just don't get the appeal.

I think a 5th park would be fabulous!

 

[La2kw]

Leaping Lizards, you mean they build resorts where the primary draw is golf, well they won't last.

Haven't you heard? Two highly rated, celebrity designed golf courses are not a selling point. Being adjacent to an extremely popular entertainment and shopping zone, or having a spa and another golf course does not count either. They have to be within walking distance of a theme park, have a swimming pool with at least 15 lifeguards, or forced into the parking lot of an existing hotel for anyone to buy them.

 

[La2kw]

I think the word you want is "adjacent" as opposed to "on site".

no not really. IMO what has happened is that via a huge marketing department, WDW has gotten the masses to view a 10 min wait for a bus, and a 20 min bus ride, as something being "on site".

How far from the attraction can something be prior to no longer being viewed as "on site"?

If WDW were to obtain land another 3 miles from SSR and build a DVC there, would that also be "on site"?

What about 5 miles?

It never ends........

But maybe I mean adjacent?

I thought we covered this already. "On site" is referred to being a Disney resort on Disney property. If you have ever been off of Disney property, you can very easily see the difference between "off site" and "on site". FYI, Disney already owns alot of land about 3 miles from SSR. I think it's called the Magic Kingdom.

In my experience, BCV and BWV and WLV have some of the worst bus rides of all the DVC resorts. Also, the boats are rather slow as well. All the resorts have transportation issues, SSR isn't the only resort that does.

 

[Plutofan]

I would be surprised if Disney announces a new DVC until they think that they can sell out SSR. We have to remember that SSR is by far the largest DVC resort and there are six other non SSR DVC that are in competition with SSR. You may think that SSR sales are slow but slow compared to what? BCV, WVL, Boardwalk which were a lot smaller resorts. I think Disney is stating that they were slower than they thought but they have never built one this big with so much available on the re-sale market. Sales maybe slow for what Disney hoped to sell but lets not forget that sales of SSR were listed as one of the major contributors to Disney's bottom line in their public report. Also I heard that Disney may announce plans for a new DVC resort late this year or early next and yes this comes from someone who currently works there. So I bet sales are going decent especially since they are still building more units. If they they go back and offer large incentives they still make a lot on the sales. I bet that they will go back to selling smaller DVC since it is a lot fater to sell since there is a lot of current DVC members that would probably add on to a new resort.

 

[LoveMyDVC2]

I think SSR is a lovely resort. I like the location...perhaps it is a more "adult oriented" location, but not all of us need to be kissing Mickey around every corner!!!!

I think the next DVC resort will probably be built at CR. I believe that area has an adequate amount of land to support a DVC, especially if they take down one of the garden wings and redo it, and they do like to add the DVCs onto existing hotels, SSR & OKW excluded. Of course, OKW was the "first" and hence the fact that it is a stand-alone and SSR was utilizing some of the infrastructure already in place for the DI, so not a bad idea there either. Why totally reinvent the wheel?

I think EP may happen someday, but I don't think it would be next.

I think a 5th park may happen someday, but I don't think it will be soon.

I think a lot of DVCers feel less of a compunction to commando tour the parks on every trip, because we know we'll be back. I know DH and I enjoy the resort a lot more now than we used to, and I htink it's because owning the DVC has taken away that feeling of "this may be our last trip for a long time".

I agree!!!
Perhaps the powers that be built SSR near DTD for the people who are looking for a "low key" vacation. There may actually be people out there who don't want to be near the Great Mouse. Some people may be looking for a more relaxed location with nice places to eat and adult night life (aka..DTD) Perhas they would like to play a little golf and then get a nice massage. That sounds like a vacation to me!!! I don't know what all those anti SSR people are talking about.

Before SSR, DVC had enough of the "Disney Themed" "On Property" resorts. I think they may be trying to get the attention of another "older" crowd of people. After all. I may be 35 now, but I'll be 85 before my membership expires. SSR may look even better as I get older (not that it doesnt already)

IMO!!!!!!!

 

[bpmorley]

I agree!!!
Perhaps the powers that be built SSR near DTD for the people who are looking for a "low key" vacation. There may actually be people out there who don't want to be near the Great Mouse. Some people may be looking for a more relaxed location with nice places to eat and adult night life (aka..DTD) Perhas they would like to play a little golf and then get a nice massage. That sounds like a vacation to me!!! I don't know what all those anti SSR people are talking about.

Before SSR, DVC had enough of the "Disney Themed" "On Property" resorts. I think they may be trying to get the attention of another "older" crowd of people. After all. I may be 35 now, but I'll be 85 before my membership expires. SSR may look even better as I get older (not that it doesnt already)

IMO!!!!!!!

I'm 38 and I love SSR. And I do go to all the parks. This is the first time I've been in this discussion so i have to admit that I haven't read every post, but it seems that people are bashing SSR. Since SSR last June I've been to OKW & BCV. In May I'll be at VWL. No plans yet but the next time will most likely be BWV. Then I can decide which one I like best. But I still can't wait to get back to my home resort of SSR. That was the first DVC we stayed in and it was our Wedding and Honeymoon. I agree that Disney has enough "Disney Themed" resorts. Not that I'm against that but this one, along with OKW are a little more adult oriented. And that can be a good thing for disney.

As far as rumors go. I've heard about the 5th theme park and I've also heard that there will be a new water park on the site of the old "River Country".

 

[djreed]

The hotel industry has been busy recently converting hotel rooms into condos and time shares, I would not be a bit surprised to see Disney join this trend. My guess is that DVC will convert and remodel some rooms at existing resorts to DVC rooms…