April 29, 2012 ~ Aloha! ~ Wonder to Hawaii- who is with me?

[CruznLexi]

I am wondering was it ever decided to break the amount of FE up? I just do not want to deliver and pack items for 100+ cabins. I am not doing the lanyard I much prefer my castaway and DVC lanyards. But like the SM and FE.

 

[granmaz]

Val, The FB page is a closed group so not just anyone can go there. i.e. you have to be on the cruise and join that group. However I guess there might be people on there who aren't members here which I think is what you are meaning. As I said I haven't been on much, but from what I see it is an extension of this group but a different way of chatting.

Lexi, I am sure no decisions have been made about splitting the FE groups as the FE group leader isn't active here right now. She has a new job which I imagine is taking her time at the moment.

 

[dylan'smom]

Val, The FB page is a closed group so not just anyone can go there. i.e. you have to be on the cruise and join that group. However I guess there might be people on there who aren't members here which I think is what you are meaning. As I said I haven't been on much, but from what I see it is an extension of this group but a different way of chatting.....

Agreed on both counts!!


I see no conflict between the 2 sites & haven't experienced it in any of the other 5 DCL cruises set up as DIS meets, later expanding to include group chatting on FB (past & present).

But......I do see a need for a "major" site or "buck stops here" sort of place, because I doubt everyone wants to post pertinent information twice, in 2 different places!!

So I would agree that this DIS cruise meet site is THE place for final word on things! (For anyone who is put off by the need to read quite a bit of chatter on the way to arriving at the planning info, I think a good rule of thumb is to skim for pertinent info and check the first page of the thread occasionally... that's what I do.. )!!

I was just trying to answer the question regarding why anyone may want to chat further on Facebook.

Now, to try to catch up on my other meet threads!!

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[CarolAnnC]

Although I occasionally take a look at the Facebook group, I consider the DIS thread here to be the "official" decision maker and gathering place for the DIS group events.

I think of the Facebook page as enhancing the info, but not the official site for this particular group.

There is lots of reading here, but I truly do love it. I have been busy planning my Alaska cruise for later this month, so not as much time to devote to Hawaii yet. But will be able to be on here more once I get through July/August.

However, I do have the DVC Member cruise in Sept and DD is getting married in October, so life is busy busy busy LOL. So I try to skim over the thread here when I can, knowing that I will be more active a bit down the road.

Now off to clean, DD & fiance coming over for barbeque later on and wishing all my Aloha buddies a Happy 4th of July!!!!!

 

[Lexa]

There was a lot of talking about FE on Facebook....specially about using lanyard as FE gift. As much as I follow on FB there was no decisions made and my personal opinion is that decisions about our group activities should be made here on DIS board. I don't mind chit-chat on FB...but I come here to read about plans for FE, lanyards and other stuff.

 

[Pixiegran]

OK, I am active on both facebook and here. I keep both sites open all the time so getting it to load isn't an issue .
Facebook has not had any discussions that are in any way a decision making thread. So far main topics have been 1-requests for advice on how to handle motion sickness because a friend they are bringing with them has a serious issue with it. 2-what in the heck do you do to fill four days at sea twice (LOL) 3-advice on packing The rest of the posts are generally chatting.. e.g.: I booked at this hotel, my friend is coming with me, etc. Jan Easterly did tell people how to find FE list etc to sign up here and the Dis board has been mentioned to go to for advice and info.
One reason I think a few are using facebook is because they do not know about this site. I found it so by accident (before Alaska cruise, last year) that I can't even tell you how it happened except I wasn't looking for it
I will continue to monitor both and if I see any signs that someone needs to be "suggested" to come here with their issue/cause/help I will definitely tell them so.
But also if that group wanted to form their own social network separate of what goes here that is their decision. But from what I can see most of the questions are from newbies and responses from people that are also here on the board.
That answer most concerns???

 

[tig82174]

OK, I am active on both facebook and here. I keep both sites open all the time so getting it to load isn't an issue .
Facebook has not had any discussions that are in any way a decision making thread. So far main topics have been 1-requests for advice on how to handle motion sickness because a friend they are bringing with them has a serious issue with it. 2-what in the heck do you do to fill four days at sea twice (LOL) 3-advice on packing The rest of the posts are generally chatting.. e.g.: I booked at this hotel, my friend is coming with me, etc. Jan Easterly did tell people how to find FE list etc to sign up here and the Dis board has been mentioned to go to for advice and info.
One reason I think a few are using facebook is because they do not know about this site. I found it so by accident (before Alaska cruise, last year) that I can't even tell you how it happened except I wasn't looking for it
I will continue to monitor both and if I see any signs that someone needs to be "suggested" to come here with their issue/cause/help I will definitely tell them so.
But also if that group wanted to form their own social network separate of what goes here that is their decision. But from what I can see most of the questions are from newbies and responses from people that are also here on the board.
That answer most concerns???

OY VEY!! Who know that my post about my and Jason's gay marriage would cause less controversy than DIS vs. FB?!?!? (I'm just kidding, of course----I don't think there's any controversy)

I know that Jason and I will not be doing FB....but I think everyone should mix and mingle whenever and wherever they feel comfortable. As long as most the major decisions are being made and/or communicated involving everyone....then I think we're all good. And as long as there is a healthy batch of folks who are doing both DIS & FB and can keep us all in the loop, keep the communication connected, etc. then that will be great!!

(Also....if there are folks on FB who are NOT on the DIS, definitely encourage them to at least sign up over here and then email or PM me so they can get lanyards if they want them!!)

 

[dylan'smom]

OY VEY!! Who know that my post about my and Jason's gay marriage would cause less controversy than DIS vs. FB?!?!? (I'm just kidding, of course----I don't think there's any controversy)

I know that Jason and I will not be doing FB....but I think everyone should mix and mingle whenever and wherever they feel comfortable. As long as most the major decisions are being made and/or communicated involving everyone....then I think we're all good. And as long as there is a healthy batch of folks who are doing both DIS & FB and can keep us all in the loop, keep the communication connected, etc. then that will be great!!

(Also....if there are folks on FB who are NOT on the DIS, definitely encourage them to at least sign up over here and then email or PM me so they can get lanyards if they want them!!)

I'm not usually one to post with nothing to say but to add a smiley, but your post is so RIGHT ON, and made me...



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[granmaz]

OY VEY!! Who know that my post about my and Jason's gay marriage would cause less controversy than DIS vs. FB?!?!? (I'm just kidding, of course----I don't think there's any controversy)

I know that Jason and I will not be doing FB....but I think everyone should mix and mingle whenever and wherever they feel comfortable. As long as most the major decisions are being made and/or communicated involving everyone....then I think we're all good. And as long as there is a healthy batch of folks who are doing both DIS & FB and can keep us all in the loop, keep the communication connected, etc. then that will be great!!

(Also....if there are folks on FB who are NOT on the DIS, definitely encourage them to at least sign up over here and then email or PM me so they can get lanyards if they want them!!)

Exactly.

Glad you aren't going to be leaving any of the activities etc!!!

 

[dolphingirl47]

Good Morning, Happy Cruisers!

For what it's worth, my opinion is - what is decided on THIS thread is the group decision - facebook is a discussion, but it is NOT the DIS.

The whole point (for me) of joining the lanyard team IS to keep from having to pack, carry and deliver FE gifts. If people want to NOT give my cabin an FE gift because *all* I contributed was a share of the lanyards, then that is their option.

I've always put something in every FE in every hall (for the fun of it) whether that cabin was on my list or not, but I just can't do it any more .

Hope everyone has a lovely day of food fireworks and (for Americans) remembering what it is we are really celebrating today - The Independance of our Nation.

Happy Day, all!

I wholly agree on the Facebook versus DISboards thing. This is my main port of call. I do check in at Facebook every now and again, but I actually do not find it very user friendly. There often seems to be a considerable delay for comments to show up. I get notifications by email and if I log in, I can't find the post. I cannot access to group posts on either the iPhone or the iPad apps and this is what I use for Facebook about 90% of the time. It is useful for just being able to chat as the discussion for each topic is grouped together, but this thread is where I feel at home and were I would post questions or post information about the activities that I am involved in.

As to the Fish Extender issue, I would not dream not to give to anybody who is saying that they will use their contribution to the lanyards as their Fish Extender gift. For me doing Fish Extenders is more about giving then receiving. This is a welcome opportunity for me to try out new ideas and techniques and generally letting my creativity go wild. I know that I was very vocal about this issue. I had the families with children in mind. I have seen the utter delight on children's faces when they found something in the Fish Extender, but also the disappointment when they came back to the room and there was nothing in the Fish Extender. Knowing this, it would not make any difference if we had lets say 150 cabins involved and 25 participants do not put anything in the Fish Extender as they have contributed to the lanyards. However, if we have 25 cabins and 5 people see their contribution to the lanyards as their Fish Extender gifts, then that makes a huge difference, especially on a long cruise like this.

So I have come up with a solution for myself. Yes, I will give to any people who are in my group who opt to count their contribution to the lanyard team as their Fish Extender gift. On top of giving to my group, I will give a gift to every cabin with children that has people in their group who use their lanyard contribution as their Fish Extender gift.

Oh it's not a senior thing, Pixiegran, I am not involved in Facebook at all. (I am discouraged by both my jobs from having a presence on facebook because of my work for youth and because of its infinite potential for providing too much intimate access to your personal life)-----plus I have to admit I'm not such a huge fan of the guy who created/owns the site so I'm not so in favor of supporting him.





I agree. So I guess I'm confused. Has there been organizing going on the FB page about our activities like Fish Extenders, DIS Meets, etc.? (Isn't it odd to set up "DIS activities" on another website?! ) More importantly, though, if we aren't on facebook how are we supposed to know what is going on or anything? I thought that was the point of the DIS. I guess if the majority of the planning is happening on facebook rather than here on the DIS, then Jason and I will have to pull out of some of the activities, as well, because we won't know what's going on, what group we're in for fish extenders, or what the new rules/parameters are that are being set up.

I spend a lot more time on the DIS that I do on Facebook. Indeed, there have been times when their were months between me logging into Facebook. I see this as the cruise planning thread and the Facebook group is just a spin off.

Bob was a teacher and I worked at the high school for a couple of years. I choose not to be a part of Facebook for multiple reasons, some of them mentioned by Jason, even though friends and family have asked me to 'friend them'. I would be interested in hearing from those who use Facebook as to why they prefer to communicate there instead of here about our cruise. Is there some reason you prefer that site? I ask because I have never used it so don't know what advantages it might have.

Since I haven't read it myself, I also need to ask, have decisions about this groups activities actually been made over on Facebook? Is it more then just individuals sharing their plans? I don't believe anyone intended to exclude or hurt peoples feelings, but I think it is very important we clear this up so as not to have a riff here. The more excitement generated through talk about this cruise the better for all of us. However, I agree that DISboard group decisions and the sharing of ideas leading to those decisions should be made on the DISboard. VAL

Like the others said, apart from the lanyard/ Fish Extender discussion, there has been just chat on Facebook. I have to say that I would have been happier if this discussion would have taken place here for the simple reason that Erik and Jason are not on Facebook and they will invest more time and energy in the lanyards than any of us and should have the opportunity to have their say. I know that the person in question has since asked here and ultimately it is down to individual choice, so it is not an issue really.

Corinna

 

[jiminyC_fan]

Wow, I have to say I sure created a monster. I have deleted my question from FB. If I could, I would here as well. Sorry!

 

[pilk]

Looking forward to sailing with you both again!

Thanks Paula, I am looking forward to this cruise. I can't say the same for Candida, not because she doesn't like the idea, but because she doesn't even know we are going yet.

We are Barrie, Jack & Jadenand are SUPER EXCITED to have been able to book onto this cruise!!!!
We've done the Wonder to Mexico and loved it. REALLY looking forward to the ship and Hawaii!!!
We want IN on the Fish Extender gifts too!!!
Yay!!!

I am Jon and my DW is Candida.

Jon

 

[Lynn G]

Happy 4th of July to all!

 

[castoff]

Val, The FB page is a closed group so not just anyone can go there. i.e. you have to be on the cruise and join that group. However I guess there might be people on there who aren't members here which I think is what you are meaning. As I said I haven't been on much, but from what I see it is an extension of this group but a different way of chatting.

Lexi, I am sure no decisions have been made about splitting the FE groups as the FE group leader isn't active here right now. She has a new job which I imagine is taking her time at the moment.

Do you know how decisions are being made for different activities ? I ask because there has already been alot of discussion regarding the FE being broken up into groups. I thought majority rules. I waited before I ordered my things and checked here first. I realize you can't make everyone happy, that being said how could it hurt putting FE in groups ? You could sign up for as many groups as you want to. If the person who is in charge of FE makes the decision then I guess I just have to wait till she can find the time to get on here. I am sure I am not the only one who plans ahead.

 

[castoff]

Wow, I have to say I sure created a monster. I have deleted my question from FB. If I could, I would here as well. Sorry!

No monster. You have every right to ask a question. Everyone also has the right to give there opinion. This should be a fun planning a 15 day cruise not stressful ! Sometimes I need to remind myself of that.

 

[hamm1207]

If we were to break down the FE into groups, then there would not be as many surprises for everyone, but at the same time you could spend a little more on each person/cabin. I think either way we'll just do something for everyone. Just my thinking so far...

We are excited for all the activities, and we hope the FB page won't turn people away. We are on both, but I think the decisions will be made here.

 

[aan1701]

I think I am about to upset people, if that is the case I am sorry but I have to get this off my chest. Please realize this is my perspective so I am sure others will disagree. What is happening right now is just one of the many reasons why I don't do the FE thing. In my eyes reading the conversation I just have a image in my head of children crying. I can't believe grown adults are, again in my eyes, are complaining about such a trivial thing. This is to be a fun adventure half way across the Pacific and back. What I see happening now is not very fun. Sorry again, but I had to get it off my chest. Again this is my perspective and if I have angered someone I apologize.

 

[ibouncetoo]

I can see starting lists and accumulating information, but I don't think anythigng should be locked/closed/decided before 12/31/11.

First of all, I think a lot of people on this cruise still haven't realized that the end of December is final payment day for everyone (in spite of what their paperwork or the web site says). Having to pay up right at Holiday time may be an issue for some people and most of the threads I've been on for special itinararies lose about 5% of the people who booked opening day anyway. (This is Jackie math...nothing I can document.)

I can understand people who are crafting or special ordering items for FEs wanting to get a head start and one would need to, but locking anything down before final payment could shut out any DIS folks who are able to book in January when cabins open up. However, there really is no reason WE can't agree now that FE groups wouldn't be more than 25 (or whatever) cabins. Right?


.....my thoughts as of this moment in time......

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[Lexa]

Wow, I have to say I sure created a monster. I have deleted my question from FB. If I could, I would here as well. Sorry!

Sandy, please don't worry....thats why this board is here to ask questions with hope to get answer. And discussion is good.....this way we can all tell our opinion and get some things cleared out....

 

[MrsMork]

My own take on this is that people over on the FB thread should be encouraged to come over here to make decisions etc as it is actually a DIS cruise group. I know the person asking the question about lanyards did do that but got more replies over there. But this is the place to make arrangements and decisions really. I think the FB group should be more of a chat group really.

Hopefully Heather the FE organiser will become more involved eventually and some progress can be made with the FE groups which will help, but I know she has just changed jobs so will be taken up with that at the moment.

Yes, DIS...

Good Morning, Happy Cruisers!

For what it's worth, my opinion is - what is decided on THIS thread is the group decision - facebook is a discussion, but it is NOT the DIS.

The whole point (for me) of joining the lanyard team IS to keep from having to pack, carry and deliver FE gifts. If people want to NOT give my cabin an FE gift because *all* I contributed was a share of the lanyards, then that is their option.

I've always put something in every FE in every hall (for the fun of it) whether that cabin was on my list or not, but I just can't do it any more .

Hope everyone has a lovely day of food fireworks and (for Americans) remembering what it is we are really celebrating today - The Independance of our Nation.

Happy Day, all!

Yes, DIS...

Oh it's not a senior thing, Pixiegran, I am not involved in Facebook at all. (I am discouraged by both my jobs from having a presence on facebook because of my work for youth and because of its infinite potential for providing too much intimate access to your personal life)-----plus I have to admit I'm not such a huge fan of the guy who created/owns the site so I'm not so in favor of supporting him.





I agree. So I guess I'm confused. Has there been organizing going on the FB page about our activities like Fish Extenders, DIS Meets, etc.? (Isn't it odd to set up "DIS activities" on another website?! ) More importantly, though, if we aren't on facebook how are we supposed to know what is going on or anything? I thought that was the point of the DIS. I guess if the majority of the planning is happening on facebook rather than here on the DIS, then Jason and I will have to pull out of some of the activities, as well, because we won't know what's going on, what group we're in for fish extenders, or what the new rules/parameters are that are being set up.

Bob was a teacher and I worked at the high school for a couple of years. I choose not to be a part of Facebook for multiple reasons, some of them mentioned by Jason, even though friends and family have asked me to 'friend them'. I would be interested in hearing from those who use Facebook as to why they prefer to communicate there instead of here about our cruise. Is there some reason you prefer that site? I ask because I have never used it so don't know what advantages it might have.

Since I haven't read it myself, I also need to ask, have decisions about this groups activities actually been made over on Facebook? Is it more then just individuals sharing their plans? I don't believe anyone intended to exclude or hurt peoples feelings, but I think it is very important we clear this up so as not to have a riff here. The more excitement generated through talk about this cruise the better for all of us. However, I agree that DISboard group decisions and the sharing of ideas leading to those decisions should be made on the DISboard. VAL

DIS should be the planning place....

This may be just my opinion but.....

If you go to Facebook is there a site that anyone who joins FB can go to, called something like the DCLHawaii cruise?

If that is the case, I feel a separate group as been formed and it is not just people sending private PM's or e-mails and discussing this cruise. That is fine and I think it is similar to the situation where you may participate and be a part of our DISboard group but you also are a part of the Cruise Critic group that is on our cruise. But, any activities discussed or planned on the Cruise Critic board, or FB does not represent the Disboard group. How could it be otherwise - it is a separate web site that not everyone who is on DISboards has access to - it is Cruise Critic or Facebook but not DISboards.

I appreciate that the DISboards is not always as technically as smooth as I would like. For example the fact you can't just cut and paste a picture in is a pain. Also, I know the inability to post a copy of a spreadsheet is a problem. But it is my choice to stay with DISboards instead of planning my activities on another site with another group.

OK, I am active on both facebook and here. I keep both sites open all the time so getting it to load isn't an issue .
Facebook has not had any discussions that are in any way a decision making thread. So far main topics have been 1-requests for advice on how to handle motion sickness because a friend they are bringing with them has a serious issue with it. 2-what in the heck do you do to fill four days at sea twice (LOL) 3-advice on packing The rest of the posts are generally chatting.. e.g.: I booked at this hotel, my friend is coming with me, etc. Jan Easterly did tell people how to find FE list etc to sign up here and the Dis board has been mentioned to go to for advice and info.
One reason I think a few are using facebook is because they do not know about this site. I found it so by accident (before Alaska cruise, last year) that I can't even tell you how it happened except I wasn't looking for it
I will continue to monitor both and if I see any signs that someone needs to be "suggested" to come here with their issue/cause/help I will definitely tell them so.
But also if that group wanted to form their own social network separate of what goes here that is their decision. But from what I can see most of the questions are from newbies and responses from people that are also here on the board.
That answer most concerns???

I am confused, I guess. If the FB group is closed and you have to be invited to join, then how are people finding that without knowing about the DIS?