Anyone up for a Mid-Winter Trip Report?

Pea-n-Me

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ETA what would a TR from me be without a long winded OP?

Jump right to my second post if you want to just see the pictures!


Trying to think of how I want to do this. I think I’ll approach it primarily from a photography standpoint.

Background: last trip 2009, which was first trip using a dSLR, an Olympus E510. That trip was a bit hairy (basically due to my inexperience), but I did get some nice shots, ultimately. You can read about it here.

Over two years, lots of experience, and a camera upgrade later – now using an Olympus E30 – I was much more comfortable this trip knowing what I needed to do to get the shots I wanted. I had a few :scratchin and “duh” moments, usually when I was distracted by the kids and/or otherwise not fully concentrating on photography, but fortunately, they were pretty few and far between.

Uggh. As before, I once again forgot the darn tripod at home! :headache: This was discovered the first night we arrived and I mentioned to my DH, “can’t wait to get out here with the tripod”. This was him :scared1: lol. He’d done me a favor packing my photography equipment along with all the electronics (trade off: I took care of all the planning and most of the clothes packing). But it was my own fault for not making sure it came with us. I’d also wanted to take the monopod and that wasn’t packed, either. But alas, I was able to run to WalMart to pick up a cheap tripod. Thankfully they had one. (Bonus was that I was able to pick up some cheap Disney souveniers for the kids’ friends back home, as well as a bottle of Diet Ginger Ale for myself which you seemingly cannot find anywhere in Disney!)

I brought most of my equipment because I knew there would be times I’d need something and would have been frustrated not having it. I brought both camera bodies and most of my lenses: a Sigma 25mm f/1.8, and Olympus lenses - a pancake 24mm f/2.8, a 14-54 f2.8, a 50-200 f/2.8 (for savannah view AKL room only), and an 18-180 f/3.5 . My plan was to use both bodies, with DS13 carrying one, and myself carrying the other; with a prime and a zoom for each, depending on lighting conditions and landscape, etc. And I was pretty proud of myself with that plan, lol. I also brought my FL 36 flash, which did come in handy, and the rest was batteries, cards and such.

Well I went to get the 18-180 to put on my son’s camera as his walkaround, and lo and behold, we left that at home, too. :rotfl2: Fortunately, friends of ours were joining us at WDW later, so they were able to get the lens for me and gingerly transport it down there. On arrival, friend took it right out of his carry on bag, handed it to me, and said, “I’m so glad to be rid of this thing”. :rotfl: (As it turned out, we didn’t use it much after all, as after a day or two, DS lost interest in both picture taking and videotaping, for which he’d even bought his own video camera. I guess it’s to be pretty much expected with kids. This was the first trip that we’d made them completely carry ALL their own stuff and he was getting overwhelmed with it all, as even us organized, motivated adult folks do at times. He did do some shooting later on with the E30, but he was way more interested in riding rides and running around with his sister and their friends than taking pictures. To complicate matters, DH brought and planned to use our Canon S3IS, but he wound up using the E510 most of the time, which actually made more sense. Why deal with blurry pictures when we have what we need to get decent ones?)

A little embarrassed re-reading here at my seeming incompetence, :lmao: but I think things really did get better. Again, this was my mistake for not communicating better with my DH if he was nice enough to pack my stuff for me. Live and learn. The more important point was that I felt, at least, that I, for the most part, knew what I was doing.

A word, once again. about camera bags and carrying equipment. Last trip I had a Crumpler 6MDH and that was really uncomfortable and awkward walking around the parks. This time I brought along the Slingshot 100 (for DS, which he didn’t use, preferring his sports pack) and the Slingshot 302 (for myself). I like the 302 because, along with my equipment, there’s room for my travel wallet and phone, girlie essentials, and I’m sure I could have even stuffed a light jacket in there if I needed to, which allowed me to forego the pocketbook and just deal with the - albeit heavy - camera bag. I saw a lot of people walking around with Slingshots (and I also saw a few with the WalMart version, which I’d noticed that night at the store :laughing: ). I did find the Slingshot heavy, but not awkward at all. The sucker is solid. Most people I noticed carrying them mainly over their shoulders, as getting on and off rides and going into bathrooms, shows, and through turnstiles, bag checks, etc, made it seem almost silly to put it all the way on. (When I did, it was off within minutes.) Even the big one, however, fit very easily on rides (ETA with the exception of Soarin), the biggest difficulty being getting in and getting your feet on either side of it - gracefully! We saw no rain, but it was good to know that the Slingshot had a rain cover if need be. The 302 also has a tripod holder.

Although I really, really love my camera and lenses, I said to my family on several occasions, “I really need to think through this whole camera thing, at least on trips to WDW”. As much as photography is one of the best parts of a trip for me, it got pretty tedious at times shuffling all the stuff around and digging for and changing lenses, etc. I’ve been thinking about getting an Olympus PEN and that might wind up being the way I go, but I have to say I developed a re-newfound love for my E510 this trip as it seemed so darned easy to operate and light compared to the more complex and larger E30. But I think I would really miss the feel and sound of a dSLR, especially after working so hard to learn the skills to use one over the last few years, so basically I’m not going to make any changes at this point and will continue to search for answers to this dilemma as time goes on. (I might wind up selling the 18-180 and picking up a 12-60 f/2.8, which is supposed to be a great lens, or maybe I'll invest in some fast m4/3 lenses, not really sure yet.) I did see one person using a PEN with a large lens and it did look kind of funny! DH wants me to mention we did commandeer an abandoned stroller one night near 3am as our shoulders were just about broken. pirate: It was so nice to have, lol!

And oh, in Grouchoesque form, I’ll give my little dSLR sightings around the parks report. Mostly Canons, some Nikons, one white Pentax, no Sonys and no Olympuses, other than the PEN. I was surprised at the sheer number of Canons I saw, mostly beginner cameras with kit lenses, as I think ukcatfan also reported recently, and many walking around with the built in flash up.

I know people are anxious for pictures but I have to go grocery shopping and take DS to baseball practice tonight, then I’ll try to get some up.

Something that absolutely plagued me on my last trip was crooked landscapes that caused me an awful lot of work to fix in pp. Happy to report that that is one area I’ve improved on greatly since then. And although I took a lot of pictures, I had far fewer throw aways than I’d had in the past. To me, those two things alone are real progress!

Oh, and a special little note to our favorite girl annewjerz :stir:

... didn’t I say payback would be forthcoming on that nice little thread you started for me a couple of weeks ago? Ha!!!!!!!!!!! I had a lot of fun getting you back!! popcorn::
 
Oh, and a special little note to our favorite girl annewjerz :stir:

... didn’t I say payback would be forthcoming on that nice little thread you started for me a couple of weeks ago? Ha!!!!!!!!!!! I had a lot of fun getting you back!! popcorn::

Sometimes....the trick to learn is.....

knowing when to quit...especially when you're BEHIND! :rolleyes1


princess::upsidedow

ps. You lost me at "go to post 2" (totally about me and my short attention span, not you) ....I'll have to wait till tonight, when it's nice and quiet to read your post. :surfweb:
 
Can't wait to see some shots!

I always struggle with the same thing.... My desire to have the gear to get the great shots (OK.... at least to attempt to! :lmao:) balanced with my desire not to carry around a 25 pound backpack!
 
I'm looking forward to seeing your pictures! I hear you on the size and weight issues and I just did what you're thinking about doing. When I got home this afternoon, the UPS truck was in my driveway delivering my E-PL2!:yay: It's still in the box however, since I had to drive up to Cincinnati and back tonight (4 hours roundtrip) and now I'm too tired to get it out.

My reasons for getting a PEN: My E600 is a lot smaller than your E30, but most of the time the 12-60mm is on it (which I love) but it makes the camera quite a bit heavier and larger. DD8 and I are traveling to London over spring break (she'll turn 9 while there) and I need to travel light since DH won't be with us to help keep an eye on things. And I do want video, although I don't think I'll use it that much. I've even decided to forgo a camera bag this time and see if it'll fit in my backpack.

I tend to forget things too, so don't feel bad. I left my camera on the plane when we went to London in 1993 and left a scarf on the plane on the way back. In 2004 we took a Disney cruise and spent 3 days at WDW afterward for DD's 2nd b'day. Somehow my camera bag with a camcorder, film p&s and digital p&s inside, disappeared at the airport after the trip, even though there were 5 of us to watch it. So I think I need to pare things down quite a bit to be on the safe side.:rolleyes:
 

Looking forward to some pictures:thumbsup2

I took a look at that 302 bag and it's got me thinking. Was there anything you didn't like about it?
 
It's always nice during a winter trip to leave the cold and snow behind...

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To fly into a warm and wondrous atmosphere.

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These were much more fun to photograph than to eat!

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First glimpse of Dolphin room. Wow! A wall full of windows!

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Taking that first stroll around after arrival is always Magical. :wizard:

Boy, I can't wait to get out here with my tripod! :rotfl: (These pics were all hand held.)

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Beautiful pics and thanks for the heads up on the bag. I want something more but I need to figure out just how much "more" I need :lmao:
 
We woke up bright and early and were pleasantly surprised to finally get to see our view from all those windows we had.

And a beautiful view it was! :cloud9:

I left these pretty much as they were shot, but keep in mind it was dawn and I was shooting through a window. (I should have shut the bathroom door as you can see it's reflection in the window. IIR I got some others another day and did remember to shut the door then, I think!)

You'll also note (if not here, then in other pics to come) that Tower of Terror had scaffolding on it for painting, and there was a crane next to it as well.

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(I might wind up selling the 18-180 and picking up a 12-60 f/2.8, which is supposed to be a great lens, or maybe I'll invest in some fast m4/3 lenses, not really sure yet.)
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I went through the same process in December and decided to buy a Sony NEX-5 and leave my Canon 7d at home - it was nice carry around a really small camera, got some good pics too, but I felt I lost out on speed (my fastest lens was a 2.8). I missed the control I had with the Canon. I'm facing a different dilemma than you, with two competing lens systems for my money - it will get more difficult later this year when some real nice Sony lenses come out.

Subbing too and looking forward to your TR
 
I giggled at your shot of the "plane crackers". My daughter just couldn't stop laughing when she got hers on our flight. I'm not sure if she was messing with me or what.......... but when I asked her to recount her top 5 favorite things from our trip, she included the "plane crackers"! :rotfl2:

Looks like a great home for your trip. Can't wait to see more!
 
:banana::banana::yay::yay: A trip report to follow .... subbing .... can't wait to see some of your Disney shots!!
 
Thanks, guys!

I giggled at your shot of the "plane crackers". My daughter just couldn't stop laughing when she got hers on our flight. I'm not sure if she was messing with me or what.......... but when I asked her to recount her top 5 favorite things from our trip, she included the "plane crackers"!
Funny! If she wants a copy of the shot, let me know.

Revan said:
I went through the same process in December and decided to buy a Sony NEX-5 and leave my Canon 7d at home - it was nice carry around a really small camera, got some good pics too, but I felt I lost out on speed (my fastest lens was a 2.8). I missed the control I had with the Canon. I'm facing a different dilemma than you, with two competing lens systems for my money - it will get more difficult later this year when some real nice Sony lenses come out.
I'll be interested to hear what you decide and how it goes for you. It's probably a little easier for me given they're the same brand and can work together fairly easily. I imagine I would still bring a dSLR but just not lug it around everywhere - probably throw the PEN in my purse at times I want to travel more lightly, like when going to the pool and such (which is sort of what I ended up doing with my older dSLR, with the pancake on it - just threw it in my purse. I really like that camera but the sensor on the PEN has the same sensor as my E30, which I find is improved over the sensor in the 510, with better dynamic range and better high ISO capability. It would be a lot easier to just keep the 510 as backup, which I may very well do. I guess I just have to really study how the pics came out with it. Thanks for helping me think it through!).

BTW, how much did you miss your dSLR from a purely ergonomic/fun standpoint? Do you think that some of the difficulty you had with it could just be, in part, that it's "new" for you, and that maybe it'll perform better as you get more time in using it?

pugrpooh said:
My reasons for getting a PEN: My E600 is a lot smaller than your E30, but most of the time the 12-60mm is on it (which I love) but it makes the camera quite a bit heavier and larger. DD8 and I are traveling to London over spring break (she'll turn 9 while there) and I need to travel light since DH won't be with us to help keep an eye on things. And I do want video, although I don't think I'll use it that much. I've even decided to forgo a camera bag this time and see if it'll fit in my backpack.
Congrats on pulling the trigger, Lynn! :goodvibes Can't wait to hear how you like it and to see your pictures. What lens(es) did you get with it?
 
I'll be interested to hear what you decide and how it goes for you. It's probably a little easier for me given they're the same brand and can work together fairly easily.

You hit the nail on the head - as you know - lens investment far exceeds the cost of the camera; you would have an easier time and justification if you can get lenses that would fit on both bodies and work fully. I could always get adapters for my Sony but lose autofocus and auto iso - doesn't work.


BTW, how much did you miss your dSLR from a purely ergonomic/fun standpoint? Do you think that some of the difficulty you had with it could just be, in part, that it's "new" for you, and that maybe it'll perform better as you get more time in using it?

I think not being as familiar with the camera as my 7D was an issue - I had the NEX-5 on a Blackrapid strap and kept the flash and pancake in my cargo shorts pocket - it was a little liberating not having a bag. The NEX has a really cool Panorama feature built in and I used that a lot. I didn't take a tripod either - so I knew my night shots would be limited. It was December and crazy cold (I'm a New Englander too, no stranger to below freezing) - so that was never really an issue though.

I'm trying to decide what I take on my Dream cruise in April. Leaning towards the NEX again - but may take my 7D with one really fast prime lens as well.
 
Congrats on pulling the trigger, Lynn! :goodvibes Can't wait to hear how you like it and to see your pictures. What lens(es) did you get with it?

Thanks Linda! I just opened it up and already I'm loving it, even though I haven't taken a picture yet! I had charged up my extra battery for the E600, but it has 3 contacts whereas the one for the E-PL2 has 4. I found some posts on dpreview that says you can use the old one in the E-PL2, but I'm wondering what the 4th contact is for?:confused3

I just got the kit lens right now. I debated on getting the 40-150 too but thought that might defeat my purpose in getting the PEN. Portability is what it's all about! It fits perfectly in my new Vera Bradley backpack and the body with the lens attached will even fit into the lens bag for my 12-60 for extra protection. The m4/3's 14-42 is MUCH smaller than the 4/3 version.

If I'm really happy with the pictures, I'll get the adapter to use my pancake and the 50mm f/2 with it.

Great pics so far!
 


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