Anyone there now that can comment on FP enforcement

[magicbob]

I should clarify.....gone for the time I will be in the park. I posted in another post our situation.

Also, we have never been any later than 15 minutes after park open for the morning.

I see. Thanks for clarifying.

One of the things that I'm optimistic with Next-Gen X-pass is that, hopefully, it will allow all of us who got FPs early but used them later the ability to simply reserve a later time to ride. That seems like it could be the best of both worlds. We'd still be able guarantee avoiding the standby line early in the day (possibly before we even go to the park), but will be able to select those evening times that work for us. We won't need to ride some things earlier in the day when we'd rather ride later and those FPs will be available to others who WOULD prefer to use them earlier. Also, we'd be able to get a later FP without having to time our visit to the distribution kiosk just right.

I hope if X-pass comes at a price, it is not too high. I certainly think it would be something I'd be interested in using, but if it's priced too high, we will just make do with the current system.

 

[andrews_dad]

I too was a Fastpast collector. I have no remorse. While collecting Fastpasses we would ride other attractions with little or no wait or wait in the lines for the rides without Fastpasses, have lunch etc. I am sad that we can't collect and save them up and tour the park enjoying the other rides, taking our time to eat, then ride all the busy rides without wait.

I also love the on-site guest express pass system at Univeral. There it is I have no shame.

fastpass collector here too! when you have breast feedings, diaper changes, naps, diet restrictions, plus grandpa in tow in wheelchair and health issues .... hitting that window is a tall order.

 

[LaurenT]

I should clarify.....gone for the time I will be in the park. I posted in another post our situation.

Also, we have never been any later than 15 minutes after park open for the morning.

The only ride I can think of where the return time would possibly be hours away at 9:15 am is toy story mania.
So, if you're saying that you are always in the park by 9:15 and when you go to get a FP, none of them have return times gnat would be before you're leaving the park for the day....something is not right there....

 

[kaytieeldr]

I look forward to the day when this topic dies off just like the monorail stopping during EMH and RFID chips in mugs.

Don't hold your breath. I just found this thread

All I'm going to say is, to the best of my recollection (a) FastPass was originally intended to enable guests to hold a virtual place in line while they were off shopping or dining - aka providing additional revenue - not to squeeze in as many rides/attractions as possible; and (b) to the best of my recollection, which may not be much, initially the return window was fully enforced.

I'm done here, Jennasis. I swear .

 

[emmababy]

Wow, I started this thread on dvc boards and it got moved. I check back and it has 9 pages! Thanks to those who commented about what I was asking. We are here now. I will update how it affects our touring plan tomorrow.

 

[Tomh]

Lots of opinion here, and a few actually providing some feedback of the enforcement.

I was one of those who knew about the late return policy, and I have used it, though when I think about it, I didn't use it a lot. I think the ride I used it for most was Big Thunder, and occasionally Test Track, mostly because of how often it breaks down lol.

Will I miss the option to return later in the day, yes. Will it ruin my trip . . NO. I'm not mad about Disney making this change, it is well within their rights, and I will adjust my touring accordingly to work within the new enforcement.

I do believe that this is the first step in the direction of preparing guests, and CM's for the eventuality of the nextgen system.

Now, only thing that remains is to see what Ridemax makes for a touring plan. Honestly, the vast majority of the time, we returned within our window anyway, so this isn't going to be a big change for us, just some minor adjustments.

 

[neffernie]

No info on enforcement but I can say that fp's seem to be available later than I have noticed before. I just got back from a weekend trip and on Saturday night, Peter Pan still had FPs available at 7:30 pm. So did Winnie the Pooh. I didn't check the mountains. It seemed that the return times all day were relatively close to the time we got passes. The most was 2 hours before the pass was good. If that was the aim of enforcement, it seems to be working.

 

[cm8]

Wow, I started this thread on dvc boards and it got moved. I check back and it has 9 pages! Thanks to those who commented about what I was asking. We are here now. I will update how it affects our touring plan tomorrow.

Thanks!!

 

[ReluctantDisaholic]

When we were getting FPs for Toy Story & Star Tours yesterday there were CMs there reminding people that the return times were being enforced now.

 

[brettcw23]

what is the new rule? I assume this is about Fast Passes?

We just got back. The last 2 days were FP enforcement days. They were firm and I saw numerous guests turned away for being there both early and late. A few, but not many CM's were warning people at the attractions days before the actual enforcment was to begin. They also put signs up on all of the FP distribution machines.

No changes other than the CM's are enforcing the times on the FP ticket. So you can get a FP, then get another one after the start time on your FP has expired or 2 hours from when you got the FP. Whichever somes first.

So if your FP for TSM (let's say 9:45 am) and the return time is from 11:30 am - 12:30 pm, you can get antoher FP at 11:45 am (2 hours after you got your original)

 

[DVCJones]

During our last trip to WDW we had an ADR at CP for dinner. We also had a fastpass for the JC that we got just before going to our ADR. We were not counting on being seated almost 25 minutes AFTER our ADR time, slow service and our waitress took forever to figure out our DDP which was done incorrectly the first time and needed to be adjusted. Needless to say we would have been shut out for using our FP if the new rule was in place back then.

I do have to say though, I have never really had a problem using the FP system within the given time. However, if given the above situation, I would want to be allowed to use our passes.

 

[cymbaldiva]

Fastpass windows aren't that long - sounds like going to dinner and still making the window would have been a tight fit anyway.

I think the thing that people keep forgetting is that fastpass isn't a right - it's just a perk Disney threw out there. If you can't make your window, so be it - nobody guaranteed it as a right and it's not an extra that was paid for. Just hop in the standby line and move on.

 

[TisBit]

During our last trip to WDW we had an ADR at CP for dinner. We also had a fastpass for the JC that we got just before going to our ADR. We were not counting on being seated almost 25 minutes AFTER our ADR time, slow service and our waitress took forever to figure out our DDP which was done incorrectly the first time and needed to be adjusted. Needless to say we would have been shut out for using our FP if the new rule was in place back then.

I do have to say though, I have never really had a problem using the FP system within the given time. However, if given the above situation, I would want to be allowed to use our passes.

Which is why I believe it shoudl be moved to a two hour window...there are not many situations that could cause you to be later than that.

Fastpass windows aren't that long - sounds like going to dinner and still making the window would have been a tight fit anyway.

I think the thing that people keep forgetting is that fastpass isn't a right - it's just a perk Disney threw out there. If you can't make your window, so be it - nobody guaranteed it as a right and it's not an extra that was paid for. Just hop in the standby line and move on.

Nope, not a right...neither is the monorail, internal transportation or even entrance into the parks is a right (look at capacity, special events, private parties) and for that matter the fireworks, shows and rides aren't a right either. This is about the most non-sensicle post so far.

 

[DRDISNEYMD]

Fastpass windows aren't that long - sounds like going to dinner and still making the window would have been a tight fit anyway.

I think the thing that people keep forgetting is that fastpass isn't a right - it's just a perk Disney threw out there. If you can't make your window, so be it - nobody guaranteed it as a right and it's not an extra that was paid for. Just hop in the standby line and move on.

~I totally agree! I just read the first page, but just based on some of the posts I've read on the boards in general, it's seems like some people feel like they can't ride at all, without a fastpass. The standby queue is always open to anyone at anytime until park close, lol. We have one ADR for dinner each day, so our day is pretty easy to manage.

~If rides are that important, get to the parks early like we do. It doesn't have to be at rope drop, but try to get there as early as possible. I think people will book less ADR's because of this, too. We'll see.

 

[Aliceacc]

Kind of a related question: have TourGuideMike or touringplans.com changed their advice? Both relied heavily on the "stock up on as many fastpasses as fast as you can" approach to touring.

I would be curious as to how their advice has/is changed.

 

[Victoria3]

We just got back. The last 2 days were FP enforcement days. They were firm and I saw numerous guests turned away for being there both early and late. A few, but not many CM's were warning people at the attractions days before the actual enforcment was to begin. They also put signs up on all of the FP distribution machines.

No changes other than the CM's are enforcing the times on the FP ticket. So you can get a FP, then get another one after the start time on your FP has expired or 2 hours from when you got the FP. Whichever somes first.

So if your FP for TSM (let's say 9:45 am) and the return time is from 11:30 am - 12:30 pm, you can get antoher FP at 11:45 am (2 hours after you got your original)

Not true. You can get another fastpass when your current windows opens or two hours after you got the fastpass. Which ever comes first.

 

[mesaboy2]

Not true. You can get another fastpass when your current windows opens or two hours after you got the fastpass. Which ever comes first.

 

[brettcw23]

Not true. You can get another fastpass when your current windows opens or two hours after you got the fastpass. Which ever comes first.

Isn't that what I said? Stop confusing me

That's what I was trying to say...2 hours from when you got it or once the return time hits.

We got a FP at 11:00 am and the return time was 1:55 PM, We got another FP at 1:00 PM.

 

[mom2rtk]

Isn't that what I said? Stop confusing me

That's what I was trying to say...2 hours from when you got it or once the return time hits.

We got a FP at 11:00 am and the return time was 1:55 PM, We got another FP at 1:00 PM.

You just typed the time in wrong at 11:45 on your example when it should have been 11:30.

 

[fflmaster]

So how about this weekend? What have the FP Lines been like?