Anyone stockpiling food?

[MarkLT1]

I'm wondering what the tipping point is where the alcohol is strong enough to be antibacterial and too diluted with other ingredients to be effective for that? Our hands might look clean but the germs & bacteria & virus are not killed. That would just give a false sense of safety.

The CDC guideline is 60% alcohol at a minimum. https://www.cdc.gov/handwashing/show-me-the-science-hand-sanitizer.html (good info at that link, regardless of the COVID situation)

 

[Wendy31]

We live in the same state, but we are East. I was not thrilled to see that but not surprised. TN has not had a good week...

I didn’t want to “like” your comment, so, instead, I quoted it so I can say, “I agree.”

But, on a positive note, have you seen how many people have shown up to assist in the clean-up & recovery efforts? I read somewhere that so many people have registered to help that the sites temporarily crashed. They don’t call us the volunteer state for nothing!

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

I want to know the thought process behind stockpiling for a snowstorm. I've lived in Wisconsin, a state that gets a ton of snow, my whole life, and stockpiling food for a blizzard is entirely unnecessary. But tons of people do it. The grocery stores are crazy here the day before any type of snowfall.

Can someone explain the reason for this? Even in the worst blizzard, the roads are plowed in 1-2 days and grocery stores are open. I can't imagine a scenario where anyone is stuck in their house for multiple weeks because of snow.

Around here it's going to be resources that determine the response. By resources I mean $$$$.

In my area we have the money which buys the salt (and brine solutions), the plows, pays for the workers, etc. In my metro just across the state line in the largest city and other cities around it and you'll find roads not treated or roads not plowed for 3-4 days as a common occurance (not every storm of course but enough storms that's a norm). Hard to get to the store and work when your street is pure ice and hasn't been touched at all. The people who live there are used to it and they deal with it best they can so it's not necessarily going to change things but still sucks. They'll say "we have so many miles"...true but they lack the resources (as in you know they are not spending the money by choice AND not by choice as well) that we have and its evident.

Now being stuck for multiple weeks? No that would be a case of severe power outage and the like and would be rare for it to be that long (a week or so but not multiple weeks at least on a large scale).

I have never seen Costco the way I saw it today. The only thing they were out of was Kirkland bottled water, but the amount of people with carts full of water and paper products was incredible.

I never buy bottled water. It drives me crazy that it’s even a thing since recycling programs barely exist here. If a hurricane is in the gulf I get a couple of gallons. The only time running water was a problem was after Katrina and if you were smart you weren’t there to deal with it.

Recyling is required to be offered for all waste companies in my county but it wasn't always so I get your thinking on waste because what is better in most cases is reusable bottles. That said bottled water gets scooped up throughout the year in my area. At Costco when 40 bottles was $2.19 it sure was. It's been $2.99 for a while now but it still gets bought. We've been before where they were out of water and hadn't yet brought another pallet out assuming they had another one.

There's nothing wrong with tap water here really. We go through time periods where we won't buy bottled water for months and months and then we'll get some at Costco. I think most of the people I imagine who buy it around here probably already do they may just buy in more quantities than normal not that they are necessarily worried about the water supply becoming contaminated. Who knows though there may be those kinds of people around the area lol.

Many of you know I have a rare lung disease (Alpha 1) that requires me to have an infusion weekly. I just got a letter today from the company that deals with the meds in my infusions saying no cause for concern at this point. They screen the plasma very well (as stated in this letter)that is required to protect my lungs. I wasn't really concerned but all this talk about different meds leaving the shelf...........it was interesting to get this letter.

Also, my oldest DS who works at a firm in downtown Detroit was given a survey today asking if they would be able to work from home if need be.

It is getting real in my "neck" of the woods so yes I will be going to get that big bag of Hersey Kisses, diet Coke and rum.

Local Community Blood Center has been cancelling drives at schools and businesses. It's not the first time they do this but I have been wondering how blood resources for people in need will pan out. Storms are one thing...this is kinda different because it's so new. Does anyone know if we had supply issues back when other viruses that were brand new or new to us (like H1N1 and whatnot?)

Here in Vegas they’ve canceled several conventions and occupancy is taking a nose dive. It will be interesting to see what happens when the Golden Knights have another home stand. T-Mobile usually always fills to capacity.

We'll be in Vegas (Strip) in mid-April. It'll be interesting how things progress wondering if tourism will take a hit for non-convention people (assuming that we're still on for it--I'm thinking flight issues would be what would be the issue for us IF something were to happen).

Spring break is coming up too.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

We aren't stockpiling food.

I do think some people see a pack of water bottles or even two and assume---prepper, stock piler and the like. Maybe if the whole store has bottled water in their carts you might be able to more think it's those kinds of people stockpiling or whatever.

For sure there are people out there doing that some are just buying more normal orders and maybe getting some things here and there.

We have some meds we don't normally buy (Theraflu, cough suppressant) and ones we do (alka-seltzer, ibuprofen, cough drops, vaporub) from when we were sick last month so doubt we'll get more.

I'll also mention some places aren't the best at restocking anyways. I like the Walmart by our house but they in the last few years aren't the best at restocking. Who knows if it's due to missed trucks, lack of restocking quickly enough OR if it's just due to the popularity in grocery pick up and delivery around here. Either way a nice weekend like we've had the last 2 it wouldn't be unsurprising to find bread gone (especially hot dog and hamburger but normal bread too) and meats and other things as people opted to take advantage of the nicer weather. Saw many people grilling out when it was in the 50s a few weekends/weeks ago. Allergy season is upon us as well. Mentioned in another thread went to CO for skiing on Feb 27th and my home area the pollen count was 0, came back on March 1st and pollen count was 6 (medium range) and I'm starting to feel it so I wouldn't be surprised to see meds like that start to be lower stock.

We did just get a Walmart grocery order yesterday so we'll have food to make meals for a bit but that's completely unrelated to coronavirus.

 

[Imzadi]

Living in the country's largest city and working in a tourist mecca, all of these things being canceled so that people don't come in contact with many others is something that can be done, but our days to day lives involves us coming in contact with that many people!

Here in Vegas they’ve canceled several conventions and occupancy is taking a nose dive. It will be interesting to see what happens when the Golden Knights have another home stand. T-Mobile usually always fills to capacity.

I live near Times Square, in between 2 Chinatown communities via subway, (one in Flushing, Queens, one downtown Manhattan,) and the 3 train lines that run to or between both Chinatowns. I sometimes have to head to the one in Queens, every now and then for work related stuff. I actually like going there. I looked on Yelp for recommendations for a lot of local Chinese eateries & bakeries. I didn't find out until I went into one that had great photos of dishes, that it was one of Anthony Bourdain's favorite eateries. It's now one on my favorite places. I visit it every time I go there.

About 5 weeks ago, when the outbreak in China was at it's worst, and it coincided with the Chinese New Year celebrations, when people might have traveled from China to visit relatives here, or just gotten back from visiting relatives there, AND we had, first 3 suspected cases, then 2 more add a couple days later, I had to go to Flushing, once a week, for 4 weeks. I was quite apprehensive. It's one thing knowing I'm mingling among 8 million people on any given day, and the odds of bumping into someone with the Coronavirus are statistically slim. It's another purposely going to a possibly target-rich environment.

I checked the news every morning as one by one, each suspected case was a negative. I kept reminding myself, we have no known cases. I could have canceled going to Flushing and just told work, "There's now a case there. I am not going." But, I wasn't going to change my life when we had no known cases.

The first week, I noticed the 3 subways to the different Chinatowns were a lot emptier than usual. I was on at different times of the day, too. I got onto the subway platform for the only train headed to the center of Flushing. I didn't have to worry about hoping to stay far enough away from people on the train coughing & sneezing on me. Normally, when I've gone, I barely get a seat in any subway car. It's packed. This time, there were so few people, that were were all about 8 ft apart. And in my car, we almost all had a long subway bench to ourselves. I don't think anyone was really purposely staying away from each other. There just wasn't enough people for anyone to HAVE to sit near another person. We NYers like our space when we can have it. Makes up for when we have to be crowded together like sardines.

I get up to Main St in Chinatown and it looked almost like the sci-fi movies, where the town is mostly cleared out, due to zombies or a deadly virus, looking like a ghost town. Usually, on any one strip of sidewalk, along one block, on one side of the street, there are 50+ people. That day, there was only about 12 along each block. The stores & eateries I went to were pretty much empty.

After picking up the stuff for work and heading into my Anthony Bourdain recommended eatery, I had decided not to eat there, as usual. I was going to get the food to go and eat it at home. Normally, there is a 10-15 min wait for the food. Then another few minutes of waiting and jockeying for seats at the always full counter. (It's not a sit down restaurant.) I get there, besides the workers, there was only ONE customer, sitting at one end of the counter eating. I'm hungry. I figure I can sit at the other end of the counter and I'll be safe from being sneezed by anyone. During the time I was there, only about 4 other people came in to order food to go.

The local news channels showcased a few different Chinese restaurants which were always empty each day. They tried to drum up business for the Chinatowns. As well as the Department of Commerce, saying the risk was small. The Chinese New Year celebrations were scheduled as usual. But attendance was small. People were afraid. Both the Chinese people living there, as well as customers & tourists.

The next few weeks, I saw more and more people slowly back out on the streets & shopping, each week, as each of the 5 suspected cases were found to be negative. And finally, (back then) that there were no known cases in those areas, that it pretty much was back to business as usual. People bustling about the streets & business and bumping into each other. That was 2 weeks ago, since I've been there.

HOWEVER, I'm sure some of those business have been financially hit hard. Losing business because of a weekend storm is one thing. Losing a full month's worth is devastating. Probably not financially recoverable for many. I'm concerned that the next time over there that many of those businesses will have closed.

 

[DLgal]

Latest update from med cram went over research showing that vitamin D taken regularly can reduce your chances of getting ARDS, which is how Coronavirus kills. Check out his YouTube channel.

Yeah, I saw that after you posted. I already take 2000 IU per day. Plus, I go outside for some sun every day too, so I should be good. Although, the study specifically was done with people who were deemed deficient. If your Vit D levels fall in the normal range, I don't think there is any added benefit to supplementation. My last bloodwork in the fall had me at 36 (30-100 is normal range). I take the supplement because I have a tendency to dip into the 20s without it.

 

[TLSnell1981]

We live in the same state, but we are East. I was not thrilled to see that but not surprised. TN has not had a good week...

The man travel between Boston and Nashville.

Announced today...three people tested positive. All attended a Biogen meeting in Boston.

 

[wenrob]

We have our first presumptive case. Man in his 50s traveled by plane from Washington. They won’t say where in the Valley. It’s a huge city, way bigger than people realize. (I can get to Mount Charleston from my house faster than I can get to The Strip).

 

[SaintsManiac]

Yeah, I saw that after you posted. I already take 2000 IU per day. Plus, I go outside for some sun every day too, so I should be good. Although, the study specifically was done with people who were deemed deficient. If your Vit D levels fall in the normal range, I don't think there is any added benefit to supplementation. My last bloodwork in the fall had me at 36 (30-100 is normal range). I take the supplement because I have a tendency to dip into the 20s without it.

Before I started taking D I had a 13!!!!

 

[Lehuaann]

Do you remember how long her concert is? I want to run to Target, across the street, afterward, to see if they have anything left worth buying.

About 2 hrs, but she came out later than the start time of 7:30 pm. Pre-show audience dance off started at 7:30 and Celine around 8:20.

 

[Imzadi]

About 2 hrs, but she came out later than the start time of 7:30 pm. Pre-show audience dance off started at 7:30 and Celine around 8:20.

Thanks! You reminded us we don't have to get there right on time. It's not like a Broadway show, where if one is late, they won't seat people until a proper break in the show.

 

[Lehuaann]

Thanks! You reminded us we don't have to get there right on time. It's not like a Broadway show, where if one is late, they won't seat people until a proper break in the show.

That’s right! The pre-show dance cam is great fun though!

 

[wenrob]

Just got a voicemail from the School District. They are halting all out of state and international school travel. Have not heard officially from their school but I’m taking that to mean the Disneyland trip is canceled.

 

[queenofthehive]

I live near Times Square, in between 2 Chinatown communities via subway, (one in Flushing, Queens, one downtown Manhattan,) and the 3 train lines that run to or between both Chinatowns. I sometimes have to head to the one in Queens, every now and then for work related stuff. I actually like going there. I looked on Yelp for recommendations for a lot of local Chinese eateries & bakeries. I didn't find out until I went into one that had great photos of dishes, that it was one of Anthony Bourdain's favorite eateries. It's now one on my favorite places. I visit it every time I go there.

About 5 weeks ago, when the outbreak in China was at it's worst, and it coincided with the Chinese New Year celebrations, when people might have traveled from China to visit relatives here, or just gotten back from visiting relatives there, AND we had, first 3 suspected cases, then 2 more add a couple days later, I had to go to Flushing, once a week, for 4 weeks. I was quite apprehensive. It's one thing knowing I'm mingling among 8 million people on any given day, and the odds of bumping into someone with the Coronavirus are statistically slim. It's another purposely going to a possibly target-rich environment.

I checked the news every morning as one by one, each suspected case was a negative. I kept reminding myself, we have no known cases. I could have canceled going to Flushing and just told work, "There's now a case there. I am not going." But, I wasn't going to change my life when we had no known cases.

The first week, I noticed the 3 subways to the different Chinatowns were a lot emptier than usual. I was on at different times of the day, too. I got onto the subway platform for the only train headed to the center of Flushing. I didn't have to worry about hoping to stay far enough away from people on the train coughing & sneezing on me. Normally, when I've gone, I barely get a seat in any subway car. It's packed. This time, there were so few people, that were were all about 8 ft apart. And in my car, we almost all had a long subway bench to ourselves. I don't think anyone was really purposely staying away from each other. There just wasn't enough people for anyone to HAVE to sit near another person. We NYers like our space when we can have it. Makes up for when we have to be crowded together like sardines.

I get up to Main St in Chinatown and it looked almost like the sci-fi movies, where the town is mostly cleared out, due to zombies or a deadly virus, looking like a ghost town. Usually, on any one strip of sidewalk, along one block, on one side of the street, there are 50+ people. That day, there was only about 12 along each block. The stores & eateries I went to were pretty much empty.

After picking up the stuff for work and heading into my Anthony Bourdain recommended eatery, I had decided not to eat there, as usual. I was going to get the food to go and eat it at home. Normally, there is a 10-15 min wait for the food. Then another few minutes of waiting and jockeying for seats at the always full counter. (It's not a sit down restaurant.) I get there, besides the workers, there was only ONE customer, sitting at one end of the counter eating. I'm hungry. I figure I can sit at the other end of the counter and I'll be safe from being sneezed by anyone. During the time I was there, only about 4 other people came in to order food to go.

The local news channels showcased a few different Chinese restaurants which were always empty each day. They tried to drum up business for the Chinatowns. As well as the Department of Commerce, saying the risk was small. The Chinese New Year celebrations were scheduled as usual. But attendance was small. People were afraid. Both the Chinese people living there, as well as customers & tourists.

The next few weeks, I saw more and more people slowly back out on the streets & shopping, each week, as each of the 5 suspected cases were found to be negative. And finally, (back then) that there were no known cases in those areas, that it pretty much was back to business as usual. People bustling about the streets & business and bumping into each other. That was 2 weeks ago, since I've been there.

HOWEVER, I'm sure some of those business have been financially hit hard. Losing business because of a weekend storm is one thing. Losing a full month's worth is devastating. Probably not financially recoverable for many. I'm concerned that the next time over there that many of those businesses will have closed.

Thank you for the detailed report.

 

[Mango7100]

The man travel between Boston and Nashville.

Announced today...three people tested positive. All attended a Biogen meeting in Boston.

Thanks for the info, hadn’t heard this part

 

[Imzadi]

We saw Celine in January and there’s no hand holding during Tinanic, or any part of the show, lol. Honestly wish we could see her again. Have a wonderful time!

That’s right! The pre-show dance cam is great fun though!

I had the time of my life last night!!! I don't have a voice today, we were all singing along at the top of our lungs. Celine was fantastic about that. And Brooklyn really knows how to party.

We did get there, still in time for the pre-show dance cam. It was fun. Two people started a stripper dance challenge. One of them was a guy with a great 6-pack. But, the other was a girl, so she couldn't take off her shirt the way he did. She was indicating, "Not fair!"

Celine got a well deserved, 7 minute standing ovation after Titanic. We love her so much. ♥ I wish we could go again.

I have to go through my photos later. Most of them are crappy & too grainy. We were right in alignment with the back lighting, as we were dead center. So my camera couldn't focus well.

But, in keeping with the topic of this thread, Celine's tour & new album is called Courage. She let us know she did know what it took for us to all gather together to see her.

Even though there were 22 confirmed Coronavirus cases, as of last night, (Now 33 and 4000 in self-quarantine. Although the majority are voluntary. Only 44 are mandatory.) THIS is what Brooklyn looked like last night. We're still out living life. And I didn't hear a single person coughing or sneezing anywhere I was at. I did see a couple elderly women wearing masks, as they probably should as they are in the high risk category.

 

[mom2rtk]

I had the time of my life last night!!! I don't have a voice today, we were all singing along at the top of our lungs. Celine was fantastic about that. And Brooklyn really knows how to party.

We did get there, still in time for the pre-show dance cam. It was fun. Two people started a stripper dance challenge. One of them was a guy with a great 6-pack. But, the other was a girl, so she couldn't take off her shirt the way he did. She was indicating, "Not fair!"

Celine got a well deserved, 7 minute standing ovation after Titanic. We love her so much. ♥ I wish we could go again.

I have to go through my photos later. Most of them are crappy & too grainy. We were right in alignment with the back lighting, as we were dead center. So my camera couldn't focus well.

But, in keeping with the topic of this thread, Celine's tour & new album is called Courage. She let us know she did know what it took for us to all gather together to see her.

Even though there were 22 confirmed Coronavirus cases, as of last night, (Now 33 and 4000 in self-quarantine. Although the majority are voluntary. Only 44 are mandatory.) THIS is what Brooklyn looked like last night. We're still out living life. And I didn't hear a single person coughing or smeezing anywhere I was at. I did see a couple elderly women wearing masks, as they probably should as they are in the high risk category.

I'll share this with my daughter. It will give her renewed hope that her BTS concert in June might still happen!

Glad you had a great time.

 

[Imzadi]

I think Target is now rationing their disinfectant wipes and may still have them occasionally. I was in Target at 11pm last night. I asked the guy stocking the shelves if there were anymore wipes. I though he was probably going to laugh and say they were long gone. He did say that the individual size ones were gone, but they had just gotten in only a few of the canisters and he was about to put them out.

They are under $4 of 75 wipes and DO say they are disinfecting and work against 99% of germs, bacteria & virus. These 4 packages were all that came in to the store. They are sold individually, not in the wrapping. The Target I went to was the one on 139 Flatbush Ave, Brooklyn, 11217.

 

[NYCgrrl]

I think Target is now rationing their disinfectant wipes and may still have them occasionally. I was in Target at 11pm last night. I asked the guy stocking the shelves if there were anymore wipes. I though he was probably going to laugh and say they were long gone. He did say that the individual size ones were gone, but they had just gotten in only a few of the canisters.

They are under $4 of 75 wipes and DO day they are disinfecting and work against 99% of germs, bacteria & virus. These 4 packages were all that came in to the store. They are sold individually, not in the wrapping. The Target I went to what the one on 139 Flatbush Ave, Brooklyn, 11217.

Don't forget that vinegar is a disinfectant too if bleach or Lysol wipes aren't available. It's my go to for much of the house's hard surfaces plus "cleans" the air during the winter when the windows are frequently closed.

 

[Lehuaann]

I had the time of my life last night!!! I don't have a voice today, we were all singing along at the top of our lungs. Celine was fantastic about that. And Brooklyn really knows how to party.

We did get there, still in time for the pre-show dance cam. It was fun. Two people started a stripper dance challenge. One of them was a guy with a great 6-pack. But, the other was a girl, so she couldn't take off her shirt the way he did. She was indicating, "Not fair!"

Celine got a well deserved, 7 minute standing ovation after Titanic. We love her so much. ♥ I wish we could go again.

I have to go through my photos later. Most of them are crappy & too grainy. We were right in alignment with the back lighting, as we were dead center. So my camera couldn't focus well.

But, in keeping with the topic of this thread, Celine's tour & new album is called Courage. She let us know she did know what it took for us to all gather together to see her.

Even though there were 22 confirmed Coronavirus cases, as of last night, (Now 33 and 4000 in self-quarantine. Although the majority are voluntary. Only 44 are mandatory.) THIS is what Brooklyn looked like last night. We're still out living life. And I didn't hear a single person coughing or sneezing anywhere I was at. I did see a couple elderly women wearing masks, as they probably should as they are in the high risk category.

I don’t want to derail the thread either, but, boy, can I feel the electricity of the crowd in those pics! What a healing place to be for these people. “Courage, don’t you dare fail me now”...brought to you by Céline and her guns