Anyone made it through (or not made it through) ROFR recently? - Section I

[Delaware Mike]

PASSED:
4Pluto -------------- 180 VWL (Oct) $87, 184 pts currently available, all '07 pts coming, buyer pays closing, seller pays '06 MF (sub 10/18, passed 11/1) - non-member
Liisa --------------- 170 HHI (Jun) $70, 119 pts available now, 170 '07 pts coming (sub 10/25, passed 11/3) - member
dstumpvt ------------ 200 VWL (???) $85, 95 '05 pts, all '06 & '07 pts, no MF until '07, seller pays closing (passed 11/9?) - non-memer
LoriBW --------------- 50 VWL (Dec) $93, 50 '06 pts coming (sub 10/31, passed 11/9) - non-member
kdzgon -------------- 100 HHI (Apr) $75.50, 36 '06 pts, all '07 pts, seller pays '06 MFs and all closing (sub 11/3, passed 11/9) - member
rlduvall ------------- 50 HHI (Apr) $76, all '07 pts coming, buyer pays closing and dues beginning '07 (sub 11/2, passed 11/9) - non-member
BuzznBelle'smom ----- 240 BCV (Mar) $91, no pts until '08 (sub 10/30, passed 11/9) - non-member
hygienejean --------- 220 BWV (Apr) $84, no '06 pts, 132 '07 pts coming, all '08 pts (sub 10/26?, passed 11/9) - non-member
waseller77------------ 40 HHI (Apr) $73, no points until April '08, seller pays '07 MF, buyer pays closing (sub 11/1, passed 11/10) - non-member
beachwarmer --------- 115 VWL (Mar) $85, all '07 pts, buyer pays closing (sub 10/16, passed 11/13) - non-member
owtrbnks ------------- 25 HHI (Apr) $75, 50 pts available 4/1/07 in reservation status, seller pays MF thru 2008, buyer pays 53% of closing, seller pays 47% of closing (passed 11/21) - member
Judy WI -------------- 62 VWL (Dec) $89, 48 banked pts, buyer pays closing (sub 11/6, passed 11/21) - member
chop003 ------------- 210 VB (Feb) $61, 78 pts currently available, 105 pts banked into '07, all '07 pts coming, buyer pays closing and '06 MFs on 100 pts (sub 11/9, passed 11/21) - member
springandmac --------- 50 HHI (Dec) $76, all '07 pts coming, buyer pays closing (sub 11/15, passed 11/27) - non-member
JLitfin ------------- 154 BCV (Sep) $95, 101 current pts, all '07 pts coming, seller pays closing and '06 MF (passed 11/27) - non-member
PADVc'r -------------- 25 OKW (???) $86, ???? (passed 11/27) - non-member
AngB ----------------- 70 BCV (Dec) $99, all '07 pts coming (sub 11/10, passed 11/27) - member
homedad ------------- 100 VWL (Jul) $90, 100 '05 pts, all '06 pts, seller paid closing and admin fee (passed 11/22)
Jacky ---------------- 75 BCV (Apr) $88, no '06 or '07 pts (passed 12/2)
pennyguy23 ---------- 150 SSR (Sep) $80, 7 '05 pts, 150 '06 pts, all '07 pts coming, buyer pays closing, seller pays '06 MF (sub 11/28, passed 12/4) - non-member
nmere --------------- 300 VWL (Sep) $87, 300 '06 pts banked, all '07 pts coming, seller pays '06 MF, buyer pays '07 MF and closing (sub 11/18, passed 12/4)
bell1627 ------------- 50 OKW (Oct) $87, all '05 & '06 pts available, all '07 pts coming, seller pays '05 & '06 MF, buyer pays '07 MF & closing (sub 12/1, passed 12/11) - non-member
wdwmouse ------------ 150 BWV (Dec) $85, 138 '06 pts, all '07 pts coming, buyer pays '07 MF & closing (sub 11/30, passed 12/11) - non-member
smb123 -------------- 210 BCV (Aug) $90, 156 '07 pts remaining and 2 pts banked from '05 (passed 12/12)
mydogdrew (seller) --- 50 VWL (Aug) $95, all '06 & '07 pts, buyer paid closing and '07 dues (passed 12/15)
tacomaranch --------- 190 OKW (Apr) $78, 36 '06 pts banked, all '07 pts coming, buyer pays closing (passed 12/15)
cropper -------------- 50 BWV (Aug) $89, 22 '06 pts, all '07 pts, buyer to pay closing and '07 MF (sub 12/11, passed 12/19) - non-member
KristineN ----------- 100 BWV (Oct) $85, all '07 pts coming, buyer pays closing (sub 12/16, passed 12/22) - member
skipamyb ------------ 150 VWL (???) $83, all '05, '06, and '07 pts, buyer pays closing (sub 12/15, passed 12/26)
ssonley ------------- 100 SSR (Feb) $86, all '07 pts coming (passed 12/30)
CR88 ---------------- 120 SSR (Sep) $83, all '06 & '07 pts, seller pays '06 MFs, buyer pays closing and '07 MFs, can't close until Feb (sub 12/21, passed 1/8) - non-member
korbbec -------------- 50 OKW (???) $85, all '06 & '07 pts (sub 12/23, passed 1/8)
WendyinNC ----------- 175 BWV (Feb) $84, all '07 pts coming, seller pays closing (sub 1/2, passed 1/8)
jonosonshouse ------- 200 SSR (???) $82, ??? (sub 1/2, passed 1/8)
alldiz -------------- 150 VWL (Apr) $88, all '06 & '07 pts coming, buyer pays closing (sub 12/28, passed 1/8) - non-member
tkillini99 ---------- 160 SSR (Feb) $83, 10 '06 pts banked, all '07 pts, buyer pays '07 MFs (passed 1/15) - non-member
lexib --------------- 150 VWL (Aug) $83, all '06 pts banked, all '07 pts coming (sub 1/5, passed 1/15) - non-member
gofenmom ------------ 400 OKW (Apr) $78, 46 pts to be used by 4/1/07, 400 '06 pts banked, all '07 pts coming (passed 1/15)
Stageman ------------ 121 SSR (Aug) $82, all '07 pts coming (sub 1/8, passed 1/16) - non-member
jermpi -------------- 150 OKW (Apr) $76, 41 '07 pts coming, 150 '08 pts coming (sub 1/8, passed 1/16) - non-member
newcomer52 ----------- 50 VWL (Aug) $90, 5pts from '06 & all '07 pts coming, buyer pays closing (sub 1/12, passed 1/24) - non-member
Krissalee ----------- 150 BWV (???) $$$, ???? (sub 1/11, passed 1/24) - non-member
bfrosty ------------- 150 VWL (???) $$$, ???? (passed 1/24) - non-member
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KristineN ----------- 100 BWV (Dec) $86, all '06 & '07 pts, buyer pays closing and '07 MFs (sub 1/13) - member
Buckeye Fan (SIL) --- 150 OKW (Dec) $78, all '05, '06, and '07 pts, buyer pays closing (sub 1/16) – member
keliblue ------------ 100 VWL (Sep) $90, 26 '05 pts and all '06 pts currently available, all '07 pts coming (sub 1/16) - non-member
jedspad ------------- 200 BWV (Oct) $85, 196 ’05 banked points, all ’06 pts & all coming ‘07 (sub 1/16) - non-member
Buckeye Fan --------- 270 SSR (Aug) $84, 217 '06 pts and all '07 pts coming, seller pays closing (sub 1/16) - non-member
Buckeye Fan --------- 120 SSR (Aug) $84, 120 '05 pts, all '06 & '07 pts, seller pays closing (sub 1/16) - non-member
bmoncher ------------ 25 OKW (Oct) $79, 25 banked ’05 pts, all ’06 & ’07 pts, unknown closing and MF (sub ???) – Assumed non-member
turk083 ------------- 197 BWV (???) ???, ???, ???
worldvillagrs ------- 200 BWV (Dec) $85, all '06, '07 pts, Buyer pays all closing costs and '07 fees, (sub 1/19) – non-member
dunnhorn ------------ 125 SSR (Sep) $86, all banked ’05 pts, all ’06 & ’07 pts, (sub ???) – member
CBork1 -------------- 100 SSR (Sep) $86, all ’06 & ’07 pts, buyer pays closing and MF, (sub ???)- non-member
KingOMiami ---------- 50 VWL (Aug) $90, 32 '06 pts, 3 borrowed pts from '07 & 47 pts due (sub 1/29) – Assumed non-member
Joe EpcotRocks ------ 100 BWV (Mar) $84, 0 banked or borrowed pts, buyer pays closing & ’07 MF (sub 1/26) – member
DTrippie ------------ 200 SSR (???) $??, ???, ???, Assumed non-member
Sam888 -------------- 125 ??? (Oct) $88, all of 2005 (banked), 2006 and 2007 points, buyer pays closing and ’07 MF (sub ???) – Non-member
jadis58 ------------- 100 VWL (???) $88, ???, ???, (sub ???) – non-member
jimz ---------------- 50 BCV (Dec) $97, 5 ’06 pts, buyer pays closing, ??? pays MF, (sub ???) – non-member
jejojual ------------ 120 SSR (Feb) $83, ??? (sub 2/05) – member
cruiseletters ------- 200 SSR (???) $85, ???, ???, sub 1/27) – assumed non-members
michamato ----------- 150 SSR (Feb) $82, 19 banked pts, ??? pays closing and MF, (sub 2/05) – assumed non-member
KevinG -------------- 160 BCV (Dec) $??, 120 ’05 all ’06 pts, ??? closing and MF, (sub 2/02) – assumed non-members
HockeyKat ----------- 210 BWV (Sep) $85, 5 ’05pts, 210 '06 pts, 210 ’07 pts, Buyer pays closing & ‘07 dues (sub 2/06) – assumed non-member
Princess Roo -------- 55 SSR (???) $86, 51 ’06 pts (31 xfrd in) & no ’07 pts, Buyer pays closing & seller reimbur’07 MF (sub 2/12) – non-mem
AmyLovesMickey ------ 165 VWL (Jun) $83, all ’06 & ’07 pts, Buyer pays closing & ??? pays MF - assumed non-member
JudyTL -------------- 296 OKW (???) $75, 193 '06 & 296 '07 pts, ??? pays closing and MFs ???(sub 1/19) – member
dhluvsDisney -------- 150 SSR (Jun) $86, all pts coming, ??? pays closing and MF – assumed non-members
Copperline ---------- 164 OKW (Oct) $75, 164 ’05 banked pts, all ‘06 and ’07 pts coming (sub 1/31) – member
Brayn28 ------------- 210 ??? (???) $80, 206 ’06 pts, ??? pays closing and MF (sub ???) – assumed non-member
Surfdoggie ---------- 150 BCV (Apr) $93, 107 ’06 pts, all ’07 pts, ??? pays closing and MF (sub 2/14)- assumed non-members
Monkey Bum (seller)-- 60 OKW (Dec) $87, all '07 pts, buyer pays closing (sub 1/29) – member
MelissaFrom RI ------ 150 BCV (???) $95, 218 ’07 pts (150 + 68 banksed ’06 pts), ??? pays closing & MF (sub ???) – assumed non-member
DJmommy ------------- 100 BWV (Aug) $90, 80 banked ’06 pts, ??? pays closing & buyer pays MF (sub ???) – non-member
JudyTL -------------- 25 HHI (Feb) $72-74?, ???, ???, ??? – member
WelcomeHome --------- 150 BWV (Feb) $83, 74 ’07 pts, ??? pays closing and MF (sub 2/22) – member
Bockegg ------------- 160 SSR (Apr) $82, 160 pts, plus 116 banked pts, Buyer paid closing & ??? MF (sub 2/16, passed 2/23) – non-member
Spark ------------- 100 BCV (Feb) $98, all pts coming, Seller pays closing & MF (sub 2/14, passed 3/12) – non-member
BWV Dreamin ---------174 BWV (Mar) $79, 154 '07 pts., 174 '08 pts.Buyer paid closing costs and '07 MF (sub ???, passed 3/13) - non-member
ASJHLJ ------------- 200 VWL (Jun) $82, 134 '07 pts, ??? pays closing and MF (sub ???, passed 3/13) - non-member


ROFR'D:
DizneyNutz ---------- 150 VWL (Oct) $81, 139 '06 pts coming, all '07 coming (sub 8/25, ROFR'd 9/1) - member
BlueCrown327 -------- 150 SSR (Feb) $82, all '07 & '08 pts coming (sub 8/28, ROFR'd 9/6) - non-member
WDWMOE --------------- 50 VB (Apr) $75, 50 '05 pts banked (ROFR'd 9/8) - non-member
triple7 (seller) ---- 210 OKW (Dec) $76, 180 '06 pts coming and all '07 pts coming, buyer pays all MF and closing, can't close until after 10/28 (ROFR'd 9/22) - member
SCDisneyholics ------ 160 OKW (Oct) $75, all '06 pts (sub 9/25, ROFR'd 10/12)
MainStMandy (seller)- ??? SSR (???) $80, no pts until '08, seller pays MFs for '06 & '07 (ROFR'd 10/13?)
cmkallen ------------ 150 BWV (Aug) $82, all '06 & '07 pts, buyer pays closing and MF (ROFR'd 10/6)
cmkallen ------------ 150 BWV (Jun) $73, 85 '06 & no '07 pts, no MFs until '08 (ROFR'd 10/6)
AzMickeyFan --------- 210 OKW (???) $75, ??? (sub 10/16?, ROFR'd 7/30) - member
dstumpvt ------------ 200 VWL (???) $80, 92 '05 pts, all '06 & '07 pts, seller pays closing (ROFR'd ???) - non-member
tacomaranch --------- 220 OKW (Jun) $76, 210 current pts, buyer pays half MFs (sub 10/29, ROFR'd 11/9) - non-member
chop003 ------------- 200 VB (Aug) $59, 120 '06 pts, all '07 coming, buyer pays closing and '06 MFs on 100 pts (sub 11/3, ROFR'd 11/9) – member
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Teyedoubleguhrrr ---- 300 SSR (???) $79, ???, ???, ??? assumed non-member
Bockegg ------------- 130 SSR (???) $80, no ’06 pts, all ’07 pts, ???, ??? (sub ???) – assumed non-member
Calindsey ----------- 204 SSR (Aug) $78, no ’06 pts, 43 ’07 pts, 204 ’08 pts, ??? pays closing and MF, (sub ???) – assumed non-member
lmb ----------------- 150 HHI (???) $66, 30 ’07 pts, buyer pays closing and prorated ’07 MF (sub ???, ROFR 3/01?) – assumed non-member
billyb1 (seller) ------- 210 SSR (Jun) $82, 202 '07points, 59 '06 banked, Buyer payed prorated MF for 07 points (202/210) (sub 2/28,ROFR 3/8)


Waiting:
mattnday ------------ 240 VB (???) $54, all '07 pts coming, buyer pays closing & '07 MFs (sub 12/29)
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pjshaff (seller)----- 50 OKW (Oct) $85, 34 '07 pts, Buyer pays closing and MF on 34 ’07 pts (sub 2/01?) – assumed non-member
BigBahamaDada ------- 50 VWL (Oct) $91.90, all ’06 & ’07 pts, Seller pays closing and ’06 MF, buyer pays ’07 MF (sub 3/06) – non-member
mia973 -------------- 50 BWV (???) $80,???, ???, (sub 3/09) – assumed non-member
jedijill ------------ 100 VWL (Aug) $85, 100 banked ’06 pts, all ‘07 pts, Buyer pays ‘07 dues & closing (sub 3/09) – non-member
PrincessV ----------- 130 SSR (???) $84, all ’07 & ’08 pts, Buyer pays closing (sub 3/09) – non-member
Jlovesee ------------ 25 OKW (???) $85, ??? pts, ??? pays closing and MF (sub 3/12) – non-member

 

[jlovesee]

Well I am officially waiting, contract sent to Disney for ROFR yesterday 03/12, 25 pt OKW $85 PP, new member if this goes through.

Jennifer

 

[BWV Dreamin]

Just passed ROFR today!! Paid $79.00/pt. for 174 pts. at Boardwalk Villas, March UY. So now I will have many questions to post!! Thanks for all the pixie dust!!

 

[BWV Dreamin]

Just passed ROFR.....$79.00/pt. Boardwalk Villas, March UY, 174 pts.

 

[disneydenisel]

Congratulations and Welcome Home!

Wow, great price for that many points! What are the contract details?

 

[mla973]

Nope - not a typo. It was $80 per point. April UY. No 06 points, All 07 points.

Thanks for bursting my bubble. No offense, but I obviously hope you're incorrect.

Is that a typo? The going rate for 50 pts at BWV would be closer to $90/pt. Just wondering if you really meant to type "$90 per point". If it really is $80/pt, you shouldn't get your hopes up because I don't believe that has any chance of passing ROFR. Sorry!

 

[BWV Dreamin]

Details were @ $79.00/pt.,154 pts. for '07, 174 '08 and there after. Buyer paid closing costs and '07 MF. This is for BWV, March UY. Can't believe it passed!

 

[ASJHLJ]

OK, here are the stats. We just passed ROFR. $82.00/point for VWL. The total amount of points was 200. June use year with 134 points from the 2007 allocation.

Also, I was not a member before this purchase.

 

[LisaS]

Nope - not a typo. It was $80 per point. April UY. No 06 points, All 07 points.

Thanks for bursting my bubble. No offense, but I obviously hope you're incorrect.

Thanks for responding and clarifying that the price you posted is correct. It's important that the data in the table be accurate since people use that data to determine the price they need to pay to pass ROFR.

As you can see from the ROFR table, Disney exercises ROFR pretty aggressively against nonmembers attempting to purchase very small contracts. The best defense against this is to pay a premium price for the contract to make it less attractive to Disney. Otherwise, they will snap it up and sell it to someone on their waiting list for $95/pt (soon to be $98/pt).

The going rate for larger (>100 points) BWV contracts is $84-$85/pt. You are offering only $80/pt for a 50-pt contract so it's hard to imagine Disney letting it slip through. If you are already a DVC member then that improves your chances a bit, but if you are not a member, I'll be very surprised if Disney doesn't take this one. If they do, don't give up. Just be prepared to pay a higher price next time around.

 

[mla973]

The vendor through which this resale contract is being purchased had the contract for sale at that price (i.e. $80 per point was the listing price). We chose to offer what they were asking, so there wasn't any negotiating. They have other small contracts in that price range (and some less for OKW). I guess I never thought about offering more. Additionally, I am relying on my agent to guide me in the sale process (although it sounds like they may have guided me incorrectly), since they are more familiar with the buying process than I am.

Only time will tell... and I am not a patient person.

Thanks for responding and clarifying that the price you posted is correct. It's important that the data in the table be accurate since people use that data to determine the price they need to pay to pass ROFR.

As you can see from the ROFR table, Disney exercises ROFR pretty aggressively against nonmembers attempting to purchase very small contracts. The best defense against this is to pay a premium price for the contract to make it less attractive to Disney. Otherwise, they will snap it up and sell it to someone on their waiting list for $95/pt (soon to be $98/pt).

The going rate for larger (>100 points) BWV contracts is $84-$85/pt. You are offering only $80/pt for a 50-pt contract so it's hard to imagine Disney letting it slip through. If you are already a DVC member then that improves your chances a bit, but if you are not a member, I'll be very surprised if Disney doesn't take this one. If they do, don't give up. Just be prepared to pay a higher price next time around.

 

[DJmommy]

Good luck mla,

We are in the process of buying a resale contract on BWV too. We made it through ROFR in about 12 days so hang in there. You should hear something soon. If this one doesn't go through keep looking and I am sure you will find something that meets your needs.

 

[LisaS]

The vendor through which this resale contract is being purchased had the contract for sale at that price (i.e. $80 per point was the listing price). We chose to offer what they were asking, so there wasn't any negotiating. They have other small contracts in that price range (and some less for OKW). I guess I never thought about offering more. Additionally, I am relying on my agent to guide me in the sale process (although it sounds like they may have guided me incorrectly), since they are more familiar with the buying process than I am.

Only time will tell... and I am not a patient person.

I've got my fingers crossed for you. Maybe with two resorts (SSR, AKV) for sale at the moment, Disney will be in a generous mood and let some contracts go through. Otherwise, one of the techniques some buyers have used is to offer a higher price per point, but have the seller pay the closing costs and current-year dues. The total price to the buyer works out about the same but it makes the price/pt unattractive to Disney since they don't seem to look past the price/point of the contract. Keep us posted!

 

[MrShiny]

As you can see from the ROFR table...

Where can one find this table?

 

[bobbiwoz]

Where can one find this table?

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=720134&page=215

Post 3321

Bobbi

 

[TenThousandVolts]

Where can one find this table?

http://baseportal.com/cgi-bin/baseportal.pl?htx=/vascubaguy/main&localparams=1
try this database maintained by vascubaguy- it is great because you can sort and filter- really an excellent source of info if you are considering making an offer on a resale.

 

[pgrill]

We are non members waiting to hear on a 40 point contract at BWV for $87 a point. It was submitted to Disney on March 9th. Contract has a December UY with 2007 points currently available. Wish us luck!

 

[snappy]

We are waiting as well. Submitted to Disney today for ROFR, March 16th: 165 BWV points at $86 pp with 158 2006 points and 165 points coming Dec 1, 2007, buyer paying closing and maintenance on the 2007 points, purchased through TS, via Robert.

Thanks for all the info here. It really helped. There are a lot of people here who are very generous with supplying info. Cannot thank you enough.

 

[mla973]

Wow - lots of us for BWV!!! Good luck to pgrill and snappy.

 

[snappy]

Same to you, MLA. I hope these go through the process quickly. It is hard having to wait, although I already have a trip planned in July on rented points.
I have thinking about this for months. DH always finds the computer opened up to the DVC forums. When I told him I wanted to talk to him one night last week, he laughed and siad DVC. I was astounded, but he shared his secret that he could tell I had been doing research.

I kind of like looking forward to 2042 when the points expire. I hope to be around then. I deem this purchase to be an investment, not financial, but in my future escaping reality in WDW, in NICE accomodations.

If anyone asks, renting can be addicting, or dangerous as DH says.

 

[Delaware Mike]

Hi'ya everyone!

Please take a look at the latest ROFR List on page 215. If you're listed, and questions marks appear within your listing, could you please PM me with some, or all, of the missing detail.

If you've submitted, and you'd like to be listed, please provide the details.

I plan upon updating the list tomorrow (for some "luck of the Irish" for those waiting... ). This information is very useful to those researching resale contracts to purchase.

Thanks much,
Mike