Anyone else think Disney is getting Greedy?

Has nobody considered the fact that there are locals like myself who pay a minimal amount for tickets (compared to those who spend thousands on annual/bi-annual vacations) and are willing to put a little more money into getting new experiences since we go so much?

Not saying that's Disney's #1 perogative, but still. Greed doesn't drive Disney. Growth drives Disney, and if it comes from APs or vacationers, whatever. Are they charging for bathrooms? Nope. Are they charging for the 'extra' that some sectors are willing to pay but do not require much extra work to put on? Yes. That's how business works. ID what activities will maximize profit while minimizing expenditure.
 
Disney might be worried about appearing greedy.

I did a survey today for Disneyland. One of the questions was "Which of these statements fo you agree with (check all that apply"

One option was: "The Disneyland Resort is greedy."

The next option under that was: "The Disneyland Resort is too expensive. "

I found it funny.
 
It's not a matter of want, it's a matter of ability to buy it. I'm paying $12K already for our WDW vacation. Now I'm supposed to justify another $400 for our party to be part of the privileged?

Are you entitled to the same experience as " the privileged"?

And I'm not even sure what "the privileged" even means in this context, other than people who can/will pay more.
 

I just love those who praise vampire capitalism. As if you were crazy to suggest that things are getting out of hand…like rolling out water to purchase as you wait 2 hours in line to fix your tracking device on your vacation. How dare you complain. Lets see when I was growing up airlines gave you a blanket. Oh yeah and a meal…Oh and heh they even let you check a bag..no two. Heh and when you went to the gas station they checked your oil, oh yeah and they pumped your gas. How dare you complain that Disney is $100 bucks and the hotels like the deluxe $600 for basic motel room..oh guess what no Mickie soap anymore…Oh and yeah I just love Goldman Sax and CEO's making hundreds of millions to rape company's ship jobs overseas gamble. loose and turn the debt over to you the tax payer…can you say GM, AIG anyone..How dare you..Its the American way…didn't you see Wall Street with Mike Douglas….not the talk show host…oh that was when they had programming that lasted more than one minute before they shoved 100 commercials at you…What's wrong with you. Disneyland is God and God is America..It says it right on our money..next to the surveillance eye.

I travel internationally. And get a blanket and food. And free scotch. Ummmmm....scotch!

Oh yeah, I also pay about 3x for my tickets.

You were getting your oil checked while sitting in a $5000 shinny new car.

Etc, etc.

This ain't your Uncle Walt's America!
 
I think that Disney is definitely greedy but who can blame them? Like any business they will attempt to get as much money out of customers as possible. They are good at it so why not?
 
I don't plan on buying any extra packages or tours. I feel like what I'm already paying for, the resort, park hopper tix, restaurants, etc will be plenty for me and my family to enjoy our vacation. I honestly feel as privileged as I could be.

I couldn't agree more. That's why I'm not spending the extra $300 for Christmas party tickets. It's our first trip to Disney ever, our first trip as a family of 5 (baby boy arriving soon!) and we get to go with another family that are our best friends. Blessed!
 
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The irony is lost on most that a vast majority of these people complaining about how "greedy" Disney has gotten continue to willingly give their money to Disney for their vacations. I guess venting is easier than acting on your frustrations.

Too funny
 
I don't understand this post?

Anna and Elsa thing is a new experience not just a meet and greet. The glorified FPs is actually a tour. The tours have been offered for years?? I took the Keys to the Kingdom tour a few years ago and I'm not "privledged". Saved my money took the tour, thought it was neat but not all that. Enjoyed it but won't do it again. These are specialzed experiences requiring some extra expense, training, etc. Is it worth it?? Yes, no, maybe?? Should it be for free? Not if a business wants to stay in business!! You don't go to work for free. If you own a business you don't put out extra products for free!

I don't understand the post??
 
Many of the same people on these boards who jump on someone who points to the obvious... that Disney prices are getting way out of hand, will be the first to cry yell and scream when and if they get priced out of a quality Disney vacation themselves.

Some of the people who I have seen run to the capitalist society argument are some of the same people I saw screaming bloody murder on these boards when Disney messed with their beloved touring strategy with the new fast pass system. They were so upset that they were not getting value out of their trip because of it. They complained they could not go on as many rides. Is that a right you have? Disney can do what they want and if they want to give you less for more money why be angry it is a capitalist society? Kind of hypocritical. :rolleyes1
 
Of course it's annoying that Disney seems to be making just about everything cost extra. You are already paying thousands of dollars and then all the "good stuff" isn't even included in that price.

But at the same time, I get it. As long as people are willing to pay, Disney will keep doing it. If people won't pay, they won't do it. That's how business works. No one is forcing anyone to pay extra for priority seating for Frozen fireworks or a VIP tour or anything else. As long as people happily hand over their money, of course Disney is going to keep taking it. It's a business, not a charity.
 
Many of the same people on these boards who jump on someone who points to the obvious... that Disney prices are getting way out of hand, will be the first to cry yell and scream when and if they get priced out of a quality Disney vacation themselves.

Some of the people who I have seen run to the capitalist society argument are some of the same people I saw screaming bloody murder on these boards when Disney messed with their beloved touring strategy with the new fast pass system. They were so upset that they were not getting value out of their trip because of it. They complained they could not go on as many rides. Is that a right you have? Disney can do what they want and if they want to give you less for more money why be angry it is a capitalist society? Kind of hypocritical. :rolleyes1

I guess I don't understand this post either!

Comparing someone who dislikes changes in FP to someone who complains Disney is greedy because they charge for an extra service and then call it hypocritical if they don't see it the same way. I guess I'm hypocritcal as well. I don't see the apples to apples comparison.

Oh well none of it is ever worth getting upset about. If I don't like the cost of a tour, I don't take the tour. If disney restricts the number of FPs I can get, I take what I can get or find a way to beat the system and get whatever FPs I want.

Disney, like vegas, provides entertainment. They go to great measures to alure you there to spend money. Sights, sounds, smells, ligths,etc are placed to influence you to spend money. I do feel there is an element still remaining at Disney that is not completely about being greedy but about providing good quaility entertainment...for a price!!

Does it cost too much? Is it worth it? Yes, no maybe??
 
I think they're getting WAY too greedy...

That's why, as soon as my DIS stock doubled in price, I sold it all.
 
Jet blue gives you free chips…ALL other American lines you pay for food except first class (domestic flight)…Jetblue gives you a free checked bag…Just about all other USA lines charge $25 bucks now.

This is not entirely true. Southwest still gives a free snack (sometimes peanuts, sometimes pretzels, sometimes small nabisco snack bags). Southwest also gives each passenger 2 free checked bags still.
 
I guess I don't understand this post either!

Comparing someone who dislikes changes in FP to someone who complains Disney is greedy because they charge for an extra service and then call it hypocritical if they don't see it the same way. I guess I'm hypocritcal as well. I don't see the apples to apples comparison.

Oh well none of it is ever worth getting upset about. If I don't like the cost of a tour, I don't take the tour. If disney restricts the number of FPs I can get, I take what I can get or find a way to beat the system and get whatever FPs I want.

Disney, like vegas, provides entertainment. They go to great measures to alure you there to spend money. Sights, sounds, smells, ligths,etc are placed to influence you to spend money. I do feel there is an element still remaining at Disney that is not completely about being greedy but about providing good quaility entertainment...for a price!!

Does it cost too much? Is it worth it? Yes, no maybe??

Not sure what is so difficult to understand? I am simply saying that I have seen some of the same people make comments about how Disney has taken something away from them i.e.. getting to ride "x" number of rides a day and thus the value is not there because the used to be able to ride more etc.

It may not be "Apples to Apples" but i t sure is close. People on this thread have said Disney Prices are getting out of control and are talking about the value. So I guess you are saying that feeling that you have a right to "X" number of rides on fast pass because that is the way it has been and the "value" has decreased is different from saying someone is complaining about being able to afford something they once were able to? It sounds like a similar argument to me at its core. By the way I am not just referring to the original post but all the posts and arguments I have read on this thread.

I would think the attitude would be more akin to ...Disney is a corporation and if they want to limit the number of rides you go on for whatever good business purpose they have all the power to them. If the arguments were based on "value" which many were and still are, then it is all about money and I can not see the difference and the capitalist society argument should really fly both ways. If Disney wants to give you more for less and people are willing to delve out the money than all the power to them.
 
It seems like everyday some new adventure pops up for Disney. I think it is getting out of hand. I understand the party tickets for Halloween and Christmas. But you can now get glorified FP's for you family for 300 bucks each, see Frozen characters for 60/35 buck per person. I know people will pay for this stuff, or they would not offer it, but when you pay 100 to get into a park, it hurts a little to have to pay more to get the ultimate experience. I know several families that are going to Florida and only getting to do Disney for a day, because of the cost. It just seems like they are nickel and dimeing people every chance they get. what happened to buying a ticket and having it cover everything?

I understand what you are talking about. I don't think Disney is in any way alone in this regard, and they have every right to do this. I think it's a matter of the consumer needing to be aware and making wise decisions that work for them, which may mean in some cases not visiting.

My husband hasn't gone to one of their parks in years and hated being in their parks and onsite. I think for him the gift shops everywhere, heavy marketing to children, and overpriced items at the hotels are what really got to him. He also felt their vast property kind of had you trapped. If staying onsite, it feels pretty far out of your way to lets say go offsite to buy some groceries or get a better value restaurant meal. He felt Disney was much to blatant at getting people to spend more and more money (nickeling and diming to death). And he was there on a conference, so even had our room paid for by his company. He prefers to stay home vs. set foot in Orlando.

I'm absolutely blown away with how much Disney can charge for hotels (and that's after discount and dining offers) and how full they are able to keep their rooms. The value to me isn't there, and I stay offsite when I visit. Still I love watching their brilliant marketing in action though, as long as I don't feel like a victim.

The VIP passes and special tour items are an in thing for corporations to maximize profits. You should see all the behind the scenes things SeaWorld has, Kennedy Space Center has. You have opportunities to skip lines for a price at the Empire State building, all over. And Universal is doing a good job of filling up their overpriced hotels by offering early entry to HP stuff and some unlimited express passes.

One area where Disney beats out Six Flags, SeaWorld, etc. is that they have a very liberal policy that allows you to bring your own food and drink into the parks -- great for having healthy snacks like fruit and spending less money. // Six Flags offers horrible unhealthy food (more overpriced and way worse than Disney food. Disney food is at least edible.) and doesn't let you bring any food or drink in. That's a big pet peeve of mine.

As soon as Disney made multiday tickets non-expiry, I stopped doing multiple days at their parks on any one vacation. Although it's brilliant marketing, it bothers me that you really only get more than a very nominal discount on a Disney ticket starting the fourth day. The strategy is to keep you on their property spending your money there, so your ticket price per day is pretty decent. And then with more days and a good deal on those, some might find the parks a little ho hum, so there are special things you can buy and add on. At least that's my take on this, and one of the reasons for all the new special experiences.

Another pet peeve is the high charge for eleven year olds at table service buffets, $40 just like an adult. I just stopped doing these when DS turned 11.

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What do I do, as I still do like to do Disney parks.

I do budget trips (only one Disney park day per year) which means we don't go that often, so just the park admission without extras feels pretty special. They are getting lots of money from me though, like $100 per day per person.

I get a subscription to the touringplans.com website and get tips about maximizing my one day experience without extras.

I either bring my own food in or buy counter service meals.

Obviously many people make completely different decisions, multiday tickets, no days / no trips, frequent trips, trips only every so many years, etc.
 
The irony is lost on most that a vast majority of these people complaining about how "greedy" Disney has gotten continue to willingly give their money to Disney for their vacations. I guess venting is easier than acting on your frustrations.

Too funny

No the biggest Irony is likely some of these people throw rocks while in glass houses.

Just think for a second what a lot of families are: own a home, eat well daily, have a vehicle, have internet, waste money on decorating and likely have entertainment on the weekend. How do they pay for that in addition to a pretty big expense at Disney?

Well likely there is some extracting of capital out of other people, and most would take more if they could even if they are not worth it (have you really heard of everyday people saying I don't want that raise?). Could Disney give back more? Yes but they don't need to if they feel people will keep coming and it won't affect longterm views of the company for a vast majority of people.

The bigger question is:
Own a restaurant - why is your expected profit 60-75% profit, by the way can I somehow squeeze into a reservation for 7PM on Friday and I don't want to hear you are full
Own a store - why don't you pay employees more? PS - Please price match Walmart/Amazon
Own a factory - Walmart "Give me X widgets at $0.50 a piece" - employee "Give me $25/hr + healthcare + time off + extra perks" while I product 45 pieces an hour

People who complain likely are apart of the problem just like everyone else. We have devalued service in place of cost savings. If people were willing to pay more for "Locally Made" or high quality items and services you would see these current practices ending over time.

If you look at the food industry now you are seeing more restaurants even stores (Walmart) going to locally sourced produce even if costs go up slightly. You see items with historically bad contents getting updates such as ketchup without High Fructose Corn Syrup.
 
YES!
I actually used Disney as an example of greed for overstepping and turning people off.
Everyone in work knows I love Disney, many trips over the years, but I told them how Disney has slowly turned me off with their greed.

Overpriced everything, that has been from the get go but, the upselling, raising ticket prices twice in a year, hike of parking add that to the thing that I have always not liked- Disney Adults at the age of 10 really always got my goat. So it is not one thing, but it is all the nickel and diming after that had turned me off big time.

As to the Disney defenders, yadda yadda...it is business...yadda yadda that is threre right to make a profit...yadda yadda

Bottom line, Disney had turned me off,with the money grubbing and I am not thrilled with the magic bands and this is my last trip there for a long time. I am already planning my next trip, and it is not Disney. :thumbsup2
 
I understand what you are talking about. I don't think Disney is in any way alone in this regard, and they have every right to do this. I think it's a matter of the consumer needing to be aware and making wise decisions that work for them, which may mean in some cases not visiting.

My husband hasn't gone to one of their parks in years and hated being in their parks and onsite. I think for him the gift shops everywhere, heavy marketing to children, and overpriced items at the hotels are what really got to him. He also felt their vast property kind of had you trapped. If staying onsite, it feels pretty far out of your way to lets say go offsite to buy some groceries or get a better value restaurant meal. He felt Disney was much to blatant at getting people to spend more and more money (nickeling and diming to death). And he was there on a conference, so even had our room paid for by his company. He prefers to stay home vs. set foot in Orlando.

I'm absolutely blown away with how much Disney can charge for hotels (and that's after discount and dining offers) and how full they are able to keep their rooms. The value to me isn't there, and I stay offsite when I visit. Still I love watching their brilliant marketing in action though, as long as I don't feel like a victim.

The VIP passes and special tour items are an in thing for corporations to maximize profits. You should see all the behind the scenes things SeaWorld has, Kennedy Space Center has. You have opportunities to skip lines for a price at the Empire State building, all over. And Universal is doing a good job of filling up their overpriced hotels by offering early entry to HP stuff and some unlimited express passes.

One area where Disney beats out Six Flags, SeaWorld, etc. is that they have a very liberal policy that allows you to bring your own food and drink into the parks -- great for having healthy snacks like fruit and spending less money. // Six Flags offers horrible unhealthy food (more overpriced and way worse than Disney food. Disney food is at least edible.) and doesn't let you bring any food or drink in. That's a big pet peeve of mine.

As soon as Disney made multiday tickets non-expiry, I stopped doing multiple days at their parks on any one vacation. Although it's brilliant marketing, it bothers me that you really only get more than a very nominal discount on a Disney ticket starting the fourth day. The strategy is to keep you on their property spending your money there, so your ticket price per day is pretty decent. And then with more days and a good deal on those, some might find the parks a little ho hum, so there are special things you can buy and add on. At least that's my take on this, and one of the reasons for all the new special experiences.

Another pet peeve is the high charge for eleven year olds at table service buffets, $40 just like an adult. I just stopped doing these when DS turned 11.

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What do I do, as I still do like to do Disney parks.

I do budget trips (only one Disney park day per year) which means we don't go that often, so just the park admission without extras feels pretty special. They are getting lots of money from me though, like $100 per day per person.

I get a subscription to the touringplans.com website and get tips about maximizing my one day experience without extras.

I either bring my own food in or buy counter service meals.

Obviously many people make completely different decisions, multiday tickets, no days / no trips, frequent trips, trips only every so many years, etc.

Really good post. I think this is the key...you have to decide what things are worth to you and how much you are going to spend, and don't get sucked into the marketing. Figure out the part that you really like, and then figure out how to minimize the cost of everything else in a way that works for you. The good news is that the parks are still worth the ticket price (in my opinion anyway). Like you, I've been examining the value of everything else (resorts, food, etc)
 














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