Anyone else concerned about the crowd increase?

[yulilin3]

Reminder to stay on topic. Discussion of covid is not allowed cause it goes astray very easily

 

[RedFive]

Are we really complaining about long lines, short hours, and the lack of fast passes? With the year we're enduring? I get to bring my daughter maybe once every few years. You know what I don't remember from years past? I don't remember how much time I spent waiting in line, what time we got to the park, how much value I got by promptly hitting the gates at opening and marathoning the day, or what rides we used fast passes for. I do, however, remember watching my daughter ride Dumbo for the thousandth time. I remember the best picture out of hundreds of memory maker photopass photos and my phone, was a free selfie I took of my daughter and I in front of Cinderella's castle one morning (Sorry photographers). I remember her face when the ToT window opened.. she still won't forgive me haha. I understand the concern of crowds for safety reasons; It should be a concern of everyone's, and we'll be doing our part in trying to slow the spread of this. I guess my point is, it's not Disney's job to provide me with my own happiness. In a couple weeks, my daughter and I are going to hop in the car, drive a thousand miles south, and I'm going to try to give, what I am sure is the smallest drop in the bucket imaginable, back to Disney in hopes it helps support current, furloughed, and laid off cast members for every amazing memory they've been there for for us.

 

[3kidz4dis]

Reading this thread makes me sad. We were thinking of going Thanksgiving week but if Disney is not keeping a good handle on safety (crowds) we may not pull the trigger. Do you think Disney is concerned with the crowds and concerned about the negative publicity?

 

[Naomeri]

Reading this thread makes me sad. We were thinking of going Thanksgiving week but if Disney is not keeping a good handle on safety (crowds) we may not pull the trigger. Do you think Disney is concerned with the crowds and concerned about the negative publicity?

For me personally, I’m not freaked out about the crowds, and a lot of the posts I’ve seen are from people that seemed okay with the way things were being handled. I think as long as Disney keeps on top of the mask situation, which they seem inclined to do, safety will be good. The only thing that could stop me from going on my trip at the end of the month is if the masks go away. I think Disney is probably working on opening more restaurants and shows, and I’m assuming they’re going slowly and ensuring that all the CMs (and any unions involved) feel safe returning to work

 

[yulilin3]

Reading this thread makes me sad. We were thinking of going Thanksgiving week but if Disney is not keeping a good handle on safety (crowds) we may not pull the trigger. Do you think Disney is concerned with the crowds and concerned about the negative publicity?

Disney has a good handle on safety. The crowd dilemma comes from social distancing. If the queues did not need social distancing they wouldn't spill onto the streets and if rides didn't need social distancing they could operate at full capacity and wait times would be shorter.
The concern about crowds are the long lines, I can tell you Disney is keeping all the safety guidelines in place

 

[susustudios]

i don't understand why my posts on here keep getting deleted. especially the one where i was merely quoting the governor, giving him credit for the quote, which was directly from cdc data as he said. there was nothing additional on there at all. if people don't know information, how can they discern risk or lack thereof/

 

[yulilin3]

i don't understand why my posts on here keep getting deleted. especially the one where i was merely quoting the governor, giving him credit for the quote, which was directly from cdc data as he said. there was nothing additional on there at all. if people don't know information, how can they discern risk or lack thereof/

please read my almost daily reminders of keeping this thread on topic
discussion of the virus, numbers, what the governor is doing is not on topic. Disney is a private company and can and does implement their own safety procedures, that you can discuss. To discuss the virus you can head to the community board
Each time someone mentions covid or the governor it tends to go downhill quickly, aside from the fact that discussing politics is against DIS guidelines

 

[susustudios]

please read my almost daily reminders of keeping this thread on topic
discussion of the virus, numbers, what the governor is doing is not on topic. Disney is a private company and can and does implement their own safety procedures, that you can discuss. To discuss the virus you can head to the community board
Each time someone mentions covid or the governor it tends to go downhill quickly, aside from the fact that discussing politics is against DIS guidelines

i wasn't saying anything for or against the governor, merely quoting the data that he was quoting, which is official from the cdc. i realize disney and probably every other company will always be at least 10 times stricter than they're required to be due to their perception of how the general public feels. whether or not that's correct or continues to be correct in the future will eventually be apparent by the public's behavior. but nothing can ever change if people are continually kept ignorant

 

[yulilin3]

i wasn't saying anything for or against the governor, merely quoting the data that he was quoting, which is official from the cdc. i realize disney and probably every other company will always be at least 10 times stricter than they're required to be due to their perception of how the general public feels. whether or not that's correct or continues to be correct in the future will eventually be apparent by the public's behavior. but nothing can ever change if people are continually kept ignorant

to say it plainly.
It doesn't matter what the CDC or the Governor say at this point. This thread is to discuss the crowds at the park due to social distancing measures put forth by Disney, that's it
I understand you trying to help by giving numbers, but again each time that has happened the threads go off topic very quickly SO in this forum, the TPaS one, we don't discuss numbers or covid or the Governor, you can post those numbers and discuss them on the community board

 

[3kidz4dis]

My thoughts on why we are thinking of bailing on Thanksgiving week is that Disney was enticing everyone with low hotel room rates because the crowds were low to compensate for the mask wearing, lack of park hopping, fast passes, shows, restaurant availability ect. There has to be some positive in order to put up with the negative. Universal does post their capacity of 25% during the week and 50% on the weekends. Disney is keeping it a secret.

 

[yulilin3]

My thoughts on why we are thinking of bailing on Thanksgiving week is that Disney was enticing everyone with low hotel room rates because the crowds were low to compensate for the mask wearing, lack of park hopping, fast passes, shows, restaurant availability ect. There has to be some positive in order to put up with the negative. Universal does post their capacity of 25% during the week and 50% on the weekends. Disney is keeping it a secret.

Disney has never disclosed numbers of any kind, even pre covid, that's nothing new
Also Disney was enticing everyone with low rate rooms because they needed to fill rooms, not to compensate for anything
People need to understand what the parks feel like and look like now and decide for themselves if it seems like a vacation you'll enjoy, like ive said many times, clear and realistic expectations have to come before anything else, you can have a good time but have to come with the right frame of mind

 

[CaoilinnsMom]

I am hoping for Fastpass and Park Hopping in January. Also hoping they open up the restaurants more. I would totally be willing to get an order to go and eat in my room or outside.

 

[yulilin3]

I am hoping for Fastpass and Park Hopping in January. Also hoping they open up the restaurants more. I would totally be willing to get an order to go and eat in my room or outside.

I believe we will see park hopping return before fp. Also word is that Indiana Jones cast will begin rehearsals soon, so with the reopening of shows that will help spread out the crowds

 

[Tidepride11]

It’s not really just standing in line. Without FP+ the lines move constantly. The only time you’re standing still in line is if you’re in line during a cleaning. In 3 hours yesterday at MK, I walked 6 miles!

This is my thought and why our family has booked for November. Without FP+ the lines hopefully will consistently move and the lines though long will not take nearly as much time. As my wife says it will be old school Disney, where you aren’t crisscrossing across a park multiple times a day to make FP+ times and ADR’s. Hopefully this will reduce a little structure and allow a little more spontaneity especially for my twin 11 year olds. Now we can eat when ready and hungry ride a ride when we pass it instead of walking past rides on our way to a reservation.

I am hoping the less structure will be a little less stressful where we are not always watching the time. So we are hoping the fastpass stays away until after our trip. (The other reason for going besides being more of an old school experience is for us to do our very little part of trying to help keep people employed and a little family time away after cabin fever all summer). Also hoping it will be a little cooler for wearing a mask.

 

[mi*vida*loca]

I believe we will see park hopping return before fp. Also word is that Indiana Jones cast will begin rehearsals soon, so with the reopening of shows that will help spread out the crowds

If and when hopping returns, do you think that’ll be by park reservation also?

 

[3kidz4dis]

Disney has never disclosed numbers of any kind, even pre covid, that's nothing new
Also Disney was enticing everyone with low rate rooms because they needed to fill rooms, not to compensate for anything
People need to understand what the parks feel like and look like now and decide for themselves if it seems like a vacation you'll enjoy, like ive said many times, clear and realistic expectations have to come before anything else, you can have a good time but have to come with the right frame of mind

After covid they should release capacity explanations because there IS covid and those coming should have some sort of idea what they are paying for (risk/reward)
I just feel that a "frame of mind" isn't enough to compensation for what you are not getting for the same price of a ticket. All things to consider going forward. The increase in crowds becomes a gamechanger that a "frame of mind" may not overcome. Especially when a potential vacation could cost $5,000

 

[Dug720]

I guess I'm weird in that I feel like they set their caps at the numbers that they - in consultation with medical staff - felt would be safe. The initial low numbers were NOT the caps - it was the number of people who were going at that time. Have we heard from Disney that they have increased the caps? If not, they are still under what was deemed safe.

Even with crowds, most people I know who have been say they STILL feel safer at Disney than in their local grocery store or the like.

If I was THAT worried, I'd postpone my trip until I felt like I could enjoy it. (I said the same to a co-worker who was ordering that stupid plastic box thing to wear in the classroom over everything else under the sun - "Friend, I love you. But if you're THAT worried about it, take advantage of the DOE making accommodations pretty easy to get. Get an accommodation and don't stress yourself out.") We all love Disney, but it is NOT a necessity.

I personally will take reasonable precautions but cannot wait to go in January and not freak out about it.

 

[yulilin3]

If and when hopping returns, do you think that’ll be by park reservation also?

that's a good question. I would think that they will cause they whole point is to know, in advance how many people are visiting parks. What I see happening is after you tap into your first park you can make a reservation for another one for the same day. That way they know how many people will be visiting the 2nd park

After covid they should release capacity explanations because there IS covid and those coming should have some sort of idea what they are paying for (risk/reward)
I just feel that a "frame of mind" isn't enough to compensation for what you are not getting for the same price of a ticket. All things to consider going forward. The increase in crowds becomes a gamechanger that a "frame of mind" may not overcome. Especially when a potential vacation could cost $5,000

Disney should do many things but none of us here can make them do it
As far as cost of your vacation and what you get in return, again that is a family by family decision. Some might say that spending xxx amount is fine to come and enjoy the parks even with longer standby lines. Some might say same amount is not worth it.
What I'm saying is IF you decide you want to come, come with realistic expectations and know what you are getting into
Again I visit the parks 3 times a week and can tell you rope drop and last hour continue to be crucial. Over on the SWGE sub forum someone reported being at DHS before 9am, they were able to do MMRR, ToT before 10am and get a bg, it is possible to do most headliners it just needs some planning

 

[3kidz4dis]

that's a good question. I would think that they will cause they whole point is to know, in advance how many people are visiting parks. What I see happening is after you tap into your first park you can make a reservation for another one for the same day. That way they know how many people will be visiting the 2nd park


Disney should do many things but none of us here can make them do it
As far as cost of your vacation and what you get in return, again that is a family by family decision. Some might say that spending xxx amount is fine to come and enjoy the parks even with longer standby lines. Some might say same amount is not worth it.
What I'm saying is IF you decide you want to come, come with realistic expectations and know what you are getting into
Again I visit the parks 3 times a week and can tell you rope drop and last hour continue to be crucial. Over on the SWGE sub forum someone reported being at DHS before 9am, they were able to do MMRR, ToT before 10am and get a bg, it is possible to do most headliners it just needs some planning

What about the evenings? Does everyone just go to bed early? Not being sarcastic but what are those expections? We would love to come Thanksgiving week but am getting a little spooked. What is the SWGE sub forum? Thanks for the help! We are planning on using our DVC points

 

[yulilin3]

What about the evenings? Does everyone just go to bed early? Not being sarcastic but what are those expections? We would love to come Thanksgiving week but am getting a little spooked. What is the SWGE sub forum? Thanks for the help! We are planning on using our DVC points

Star Wars Galaxys Edge subforum right here on this board
Again, I am not here to tell you to come and you'll enjoy OR not to come cause you won't enjoy it
The important thing is that you are researching, you know what's open and not, you know what the parks look like, so if those things appeal to you then come, if it doesn't then don't
There are other threads that discuss what to do after the parks close or on days that you are not going to the parks, definitely check those, use the search bar