Anybody's child have the book "Love you Forever" by Robert Munsch

Well, there are thousands and thousands and thousands of great quality picture books for children, so if the award winning ones don't float your child's boat, there are others you can choose that will entertain and delight a child.

My point is that a parent should know the difference. My God, over on the toy recall thread I don't hear anyone saying, "Gee, not every toy has to be free of GHB chemicals." I don't ever hear a parent say, "She slept in my old Tshirts when she was a baby. Not every piece of clothing has to have that flame retardent on it." Nobody on the breastfeeding threads ever says, "Sure, go ahead and feed your baby that formula. Not every kind of infant food has to have an optimum balance of nutrients in it."

We as a proup of parents have been the most vocal generation ever in every other area of consumer goods we purchase for our children.Their food, their clothing, their toys, their products like strollers, etc. etc. We have consumer programs in place to help us tell quality from junk, and we enforce them for the betterment of the children they impact.

So why then aren't we willing to do the same for their books? Why aren't parents getting online and reading bookd reviews before they go to the bookstore? Why aren't they making friends with their Children's Librarian at school or the public library and saying, "Look, it's overwhelming for me. How do I make great choices for my kids? What do I look for?"

Why are parents willing to settle for crappy maudlin junk? Is it because it takes time to research the good stuff and learn to appreciate it?

You got to be kidding me just bc my family likes this one particular book, you dont think we care about what are children read:confused3 . I know what the Caldecott and Newberry awards are for. I volunteer in my son's school library, I scour the reviews but you know what if my kid wants to read something that isnt picture perfect it is ok. My kid is really smart and obsessed with sports, some day it is like pulling teeth just to get him to read anything that dosnt invlove sports. When I mention this, all of the educators and librarians and book store staff say "be gald he will read anything, some kids wont pick up a book" I am glad he has a love of reading so sometimes if he wants to read something that isnt on the "Best of " list it is ok.
 
Planogirl, I know this was a page or two back, but I wanted to say that I TOTALLY agree with this. My issue with the preschool book we are talking about has nothing to do with how I feel about preteens and teens reading, and what material they choose. I guess I see it as a strong background in good litereature gives them the foundation. Then, at the age when they sometimes start to see reading as uncool or boring, I think all bets are off - with the hope, of course, that something good will still appeal to them and that they will develop an ability to choose good books they will enjoy reading. But Goosebumps helped many a kid standing in front of me with a mom breathing down his neck find a book he didn't fight to keep from reading.
I give Dr Seuss credit for keeping DS reading when he was younger. Luckily the fellow wrote a lot because DS did not want to sit down and focus on a book too often unless it was Seuss and a few other notable exceptions. I don't know how Seuss stacks up among the experts but he worked for us. :)
 
no one has mentioned "guess how much I love you" :( that book makes me cry EVERY single time! Dr. Seuss's Abc's and 10 apples up on top are our current fav's
 
Sure it can. Being popular has nothing to do with literary quality - that's my argument. Munsch has sold TWENTY MILLION copies of this book - but it's still, and will always be, crappy in terms of its literary merit.

I haven't seen anyone on this thread say anything about the impact this book has on their child alone. It's the PARENTS who are crying. Don't you think it's odd that a children's book seems to have so little effect on the actual child and makes the parents weeping wrecks??? Do you think that was an accident? That book is designed to touch an emotional chord in a parent, not to be a good book for children to read and love and feel a personal connection to, which is what a good children's book should do.

ITA! It's an emotional button pusher for the parents! They're the ones who like it. It's such sentimental schmaltz. I've never read it to my son. I don't want to scare him....because that's one scary mom in the book.
 

I give Dr Seuss credit for keeping DS reading when he was younger. Luckily the fellow wrote a lot because DS did not want to sit down and focus on a book too often unless it was Seuss and a few other notable exceptions. I don't know how Seuss stacks up among the experts but he worked for us. :)

Seuss is a genius. Now there's an example of an author who took something basic, like the vocabulary words a first reader should learn, and made something wonderful out of them.
 
I agree reading for fun is OK. However, I detest the Junie B. Jones books because of the poor grammar. There is no reason to teach young children improper grammar.

I agree those books drive me absloutely crazy.
 
I love you Forever
I like you for always
As long as I'm here (not too sure about this line)
My baby you'll be

:love: I got that book as a baby shower gift 2 weeks prior to my DS5 being born. I've read it to him a few times and during the "back and forth" parts, I'll rock him "back and forth, back and forth".

I almost cry at the end. Well, my aunt did tell me to have a box of kleenex near-by :rolleyes:
 
CHILDREN'S NOTABLE BOOKS
CRITERIA
The evaluative criteria to be used are:
literary quality;
originality of text and illustration;
clarity and style of language;
excellence of illustration;
excellence of design and format;
subject matter of interest and value to children;
the likelihood of acceptance by children.

As a woman with a degree in English literature, I hate to admit this, but I still don't see what is meant by "literary quality." The other criteria are pretty straightforward, but "literary quality"? The standards of literary quality seem to change and be re-evaluated with the passing of time. (Although I also have an issue with "excellence of illustration," as I would hazard a guess that the average librarian has no better understanding of artistic merit than the average social studies teacher, lawyer, chef or parent, so why should librarians be using this criterion? Wouldn't they largely be judging based on opinion? :confused3 I may be totally wrong, though. Perhaps the ALA judges are expected to have more than the average background knowledge in art.)

I may be all wet, but I must have skipped the classes regarding what is true, unchanging "literary excellence," because it was never described or explained to me in a straightforward manner, and I was a very good, attentive student.

My mom read "I Love You Forever" to me and my siblings when we were very young. I only remember the beginning and the very end, and the message I got from it was that my mom would love me forever. Sounds like a pretty basic and heartwarming theme to moi. YMMV.

When I was in college, Mom sent me a care package and signed the card with the poem/song from the book. It gave me warm fuzzies, because I remembered the basic elements of the story. I didn't remember the stalker-crazy-creepy aspects. Of course, as I said, I haven't read the book on my own -- it was always a read-to-me-by-Mom book, and that's what made it more special than some of the books I read on my own later. People remember and value different things, and I found value in that book. As an adult, I might read "I Love You Forever" and determine that it's junk, but that does not nullify the value it held for me as a child and the positive memories I have of it now, and I don't think someone else can look at it -- from an adult's perspective and with advanced degrees to "back them up" -- and say that it is the equivalent of junk food without giving me concrete rationale -- something less ephemeral than the term "literary quality."

I don't mean to be snarky, but I do like to learn and be educated, and simply saying the book has no literary quality and is not a "good" book from an objective standpoint (and who can really be objective about this?) does not educate me on why it is not a good book.

Did that make any sense at all?
 
I have my Master's in English and I swear you'll find more self-absorbed people in an English department than you will anywhere else on a campus. :rotfl2: I still worry about the kid of a fellow grad student after she said she would start reading the classics to him from day one. Poor kid will be ready to run away when she pulls out Keats. :)
 
Oops, I was one of those, too!! Guilty as charged...:rotfl:

I read a bunch of "pieces of crap" in college. Bleak House sends cold chills down my spine, for example. BUT, it still met the criteria for a literary masterpiece, so it wasn't a piece of crap from a literary standpoint.

Still, I'd much rather reread Bridget Jones than ever have to pick up a Dickens novel again....

I was one too. I have read some %^$* in my time. Dickens? At least he was palatable even if he wasn't enjoyable. Let's talk about some of those "stream of consciousness" writers sometime.

My point is, sometimes we attach labels to things that don't apply, simply because we think we have to, or because something is so completely out there that we think we *have* to rever it just because it's strange/different/"original".

I admit I have never read the specifc book the OP mentions. I will have to pick it up the next time I'm out and skim it. My argument is more esoteric than a specific book. I believe I read a stat recently that about 75% of households don't have even *ONE* children's book in the house, let alone "good" books. My personal opinion is, let's work on that first, before we start dictating what is and isn't "of merit".
 
I think the book is lovely. I think if you think it's "creepy," you're taking it too literally. It's meant to convey the circle of life and undying love. It's a bit outlandish at times, but it's a shame people have to ruin the innocent intent of the message.
 
Well, there are thousands and thousands and thousands of great quality picture books for children, so if the award winning ones don't float your child's boat, there are others you can choose that will entertain and delight a child.

My point is that a parent should know the difference. My God, over on the toy recall thread I don't hear anyone saying, "Gee, not every toy has to be free of GHB chemicals." I don't ever hear a parent say, "She slept in my old Tshirts when she was a baby. Not every piece of clothing has to have that flame retardent on it." Nobody on the breastfeeding threads ever says, "Sure, go ahead and feed your baby that formula. Not every kind of infant food has to have an optimum balance of nutrients in it."

We as a proup of parents have been the most vocal generation ever in every other area of consumer goods we purchase for our children.Their food, their clothing, their toys, their products like strollers, etc. etc. We have consumer programs in place to help us tell quality from junk, and we enforce them for the betterment of the children they impact.

So why then aren't we willing to do the same for their books? Why aren't parents getting online and reading bookd reviews before they go to the bookstore? Why aren't they making friends with their Children's Librarian at school or the public library and saying, "Look, it's overwhelming for me. How do I make great choices for my kids? What do I look for?"

Why are parents willing to settle for crappy maudlin junk? Is it because it takes time to research the good stuff and learn to appreciate it?

I am a very intelligent woman, and avid reader. I read classics, non-fiction, and I also read popular "junk" as well as magazines. My child has award winning books, he has books he has asked for from the grocery store aisle, he has comic books. I know the difference. There is absolutely nothing wrong with a child learning to love to read, and a child is going to learn to do that by reading what looks interesting and what he/she likes. Some of the "award-winning" children's books bore both me and my son to tears, if that was all we read, he wouldn't have the interest in books that he has now.

To answer the OP, both my child and I enjoy this book, it is one of my son's favorites.
 
I am a very intelligent woman, and avid reader. I read classics, non-fiction, and I also read popular "junk" as well as magazines. My child has award winning books, he has books he has asked for from the grocery store aisle, he has comic books. I know the difference. There is absolutely nothing wrong with a child learning to love to read, and a child is going to learn to do that by reading what looks interesting and what he/she likes. Some of the "award-winning" children's books bore both me and my son to tears, if that was all we read, he wouldn't have the interest in books that he has now.

To answer the OP, both my child and I enjoy this book, it is one of my son's favorites.

That's really all I'm saying, aidensmom. Know the difference. If all you read were comics and grocery store books, you probably wouldn't have the same kind of interest in books, either.
 
I was one too. I have read some %^$* in my time. Dickens? At least he was palatable even if he wasn't enjoyable. Let's talk about some of those "stream of consciousness" writers sometime.

My point is, sometimes we attach labels to things that don't apply, simply because we think we have to, or because something is so completely out there that we think we *have* to rever it just because it's strange/different/"original".

I admit I have never read the specifc book the OP mentions. I will have to pick it up the next time I'm out and skim it. My argument is more esoteric than a specific book. I believe I read a stat recently that about 75% of households don't have even *ONE* children's book in the house, let alone "good" books. My personal opinion is, let's work on that first, before we start dictating what is and isn't "of merit".

Well, I'll certainly agree with you there. It makes me sad to think how many children miss the experience of having anything read to them, ever.
 
I have my Master's in English and I swear you'll find more self-absorbed people in an English department than you will anywhere else on a campus. :rotfl2: I still worry about the kid of a fellow grad student after she said she would start reading the classics to him from day one. Poor kid will be ready to run away when she pulls out Keats. :)

:rotfl: Even I wouldn't go that far!!!!!!
 
Anna chronostic, I couldn't find the textbook I was looking for earlier, but any good childrne's library will have some from which to choose. As I recall, they did a pretty good job of discussing in detail what were the generally accepted criteria for "literary quality." I found this on the net...Outline on Literary Elements
The literary quality of a fictional book is based not upon its popularity or the ease with which it can be read, but upon the quality of the literary elements found in the book. Students who are unfamiliar with the literary elements or who need a greater understanding of literary quality than is presented here and in the text should read A Critical Handbook of Children's Literature, by Rebecca J. Lukens. Any edition will do, since basically she changes the books used as examples and adds a new chapter. In editions 1-5, use chapters 3-9. In edition 6, use chapters 4-10.

The following bold-faced terms are ones which should be understood and used in discussing the literary elements. They should be used in the Critical Analysis Paper.

Please note that these elements apply only to fiction books.


Character
Character can be revealed through the character's actions, speech, and appearance. It also can be revealed by the comments of other characters and of the author.

Certain types of characters appear in many stories. Describe the following types if they appear in your book:

The protagonist is the central character (person, animal, or personified object) in the plot's conflict.
The antagonist is the force in conflict with the protagonist. It may be society, nature, or fate, as well as another person. It can also be the protagonist's own self, if he or she has an internal conflict.
A character foil is a character whose traits are in direct contrast to those of the principal character. The foil therefore highlights the traits of the protagonist. The foil is usually a minor character, although if there are two protagonists, they may be foils of each other.
A stereotype is a character who possesses expected traits of a group rather than being an individual. Using stereotypes is usually considered an indication of poor quality, especially in cases such as members of minority groups, people with disabilities, or women. However, stereotypes can be useful in furthering the story quickly and are acceptable in minor roles if they do not provide hurtful portraits of the groups in question.
Character development is showing the multitude of traits and behaviors that give the literary character the complexity of a human being. The amount of character development affects the quality of the story:

A flat character is not fully developed; we know only one side of the character.
A round character is fully-developed, with many traits--bad and good--shown in the story. We feel that we know the character so well that he or she has become a real person.
Character development is a continuum with perfectly flat characters at one end and very round ones at the other. Every character lies somewhere on this continuum. Round characters are usually considered an indication of literary quality. However, characters in folktales are almost always flat, and flatness is appropriate for minor characters in modern literature for children. A character foil is often flat, even if the protagonist is round.
The amount of change in a character over the course of the story also affects its quality:

A static character is one who does not experience a basic character change during the course of the story.
A dynamic character is one who experiences a basic change in character through the events of the story. This change is internal and may be sudden, but the events of the plot should make it seem inevitable.
There is also a continuum of character change in a story, with very static characters at one end, and very dynamic ones at the other. Every character lies somewhere on this continuum. Dynamism in the protagonist is usually considered an indication of quality, but many characters, especially in stories for younger children, have only the mild amount of change which can be expected from growing and maturing from day to day.
A character may thus be round and dynamic, round and static, or flat and static. A flat character cannot usually be dynamic, because you do not know enough about the flat character to notice a change. If a character seems flat and yet seems to change, it is usually because the characterization is not well written.
The following table summarizes how the development and change in characters interact:

Character Dynamic Static
Round Considered the best type of character development. Usually the protagonist. Development is considered well-done. Often found in protagonists in books for younger children.
Flat Characters cannot be dynamic and flat, because in a flat character we do not know enough about them for them to recognize a change. If a flat character seems to change, it is usually due to poor writing. In very simple books, or in fairy tales, the protagonist may be flat and static. Also appropriate for minor characters in other books.


Plot
Plot is the sequence of events which involves the characters in conflict.
See the outline about Types of Plots in Modern Literature on the Web to learn about types of plot.

The sequence of events is called the narrative order:

The most common type of narrative order in children's books is chronological. In this case, the events are told in the order they happen.
A flashback occurs when the author narrates an event that took place before the current time of the story. Flashbacks are uncommon in children's literature because the passage of time is difficult for children to understand. The opposite effect, a flash forward, is even rarer.
A time lapse occurs when the story skips a period of time that seems unusual compared to the rest of the plot. There is no standard amount of time that might constitute a time lapse; it depends upon the reader's sense that a longer than usual period of time has passed since the previous episode.
Conflict is the struggle between the protagonist and an opposing force. There are several types of conflict:

Internal conflict, or person-against-self, occurs when the protagonist struggles within himself or herself. The protagonist is pulled by two courses of action or by differing emotions. This is often considered a characteristic of fine literature because it frequently leads to a dynamic change in the protagonist.
Interpersonal conflict, or person-against-person, pits the protagonist against someone else.
Conflict of person-against-society happens when the protagonist is in conflict with the values of his or her society. This is a difficult concept for small children to grasp.
Conflict of person-against-nature takes place when the protagonists is threatened by an element of nature.
Conflict of person-against-fate occurs when the protagonist must contend against a fact or life or death over which people have little control, such as death or disability. Some literary critics, however, see this conflict as a type of person-against-nature.
Several types of conflict may be present in any one story.
Sometimes it is difficult to distinguish between two types of conflict. If a teenager is arrested by a policeman for breaking a law, the conflict is probably person-against-society. If, however, a personal animosity develops between the two, so that the boy taunts the policeman and the policeman harasses the boy because they dislike each other, the conflict becomes person-against-person. Likewise, if a character is attacked by a strange dog, the conflict is person-against-nature. But if the dog knows and dislikes the character, it could be considered person-against-person. If the protagonist is diagnosed with a fatal disease, he or she has a conflict with fate or nature, but also probably has an internal conflict in learning to accept his or her fate.
Most plots have certain common elements:

A story commonly begins with exposition, an explanation of the situation and the condition of the characters. In children's books, the exposition is usually woven into the action.
A plot usually begins with a problem which the protagonist must meet or solve. During the story, tension is built through a series of complications, incidents which either help or hinder the protagonist in finding a solution. This is the rising action.
The climax is the peak or turning point of the action; at this point we know the outcome.
The denouement or falling action is the part after the climax. It gives any necessary explanation and ends with resolution, the sense of at the end of the story that it is complete.
The ending of the story may be either open or closed:
In a closed ending, the most usual one in children's books, readers feel that they know what will happen. The various parts of the plot are tied together satisfactorily, and the reader feels a sense of completion.
In an open ending, readers must draw their own conclusions; they do not know what will happen.
A cliffhanger is an abrupt ending at an exciting and often dangerous time in the plot. Its purpose is to keep the reader reading. It is usually found at the end of a chapter, but occasionally a book will end this way. (Not all open endings are suspenseful enough to be called cliffhangers.) Recently, books in some science fiction and fantasy series have ended in cliffhangers, which encourages the reading of the other books in the series.
Other elements which may be found in plots include:

Suspense is a state of tension, a sense of uncertainty, an emotional pull which keeps the reader reading. All plots need some suspense to sustain interest.
Foreshadowing is the planting of hints about what will happen later in the story. It prepares children for the outcome and reassures them when the suspense is very high. Good foreshadowing is subtle and often contributes to high quality in a story.
Coincidence, the concurrence of events which happen by chance, is a fact in real life. However, real life is not a plot that moves from problem to climax to resolution. In fiction, coincidence seems contrived; it weakens the plot. Coincidence in a plot is acceptable if it is carefully but subtly foreshadowed.
Inevitability is the sense that the outcome is necessary and inescapable. It had to happen, given these characters and this situation; it is not contrived. It is a sign of high quality in writing.
Sensationalism is unrelieved suspense; it often includes violence and may produce fear in the reader. Readers often like it, as the popularity of horror books and films attest, but it is usually considered a sign of poor quality. Even the Disney Studio, known for wholesome entertainment, is guilty of sensationalism. Sixty years ago, many children were frightened by the witch in Snow White. More recently The Lion King was criticized for excessive violence. In films, suspense is often heightened by cutting quickly between scenes and by the adroit use of background music to create a mood.
Sentimentality is the opposite of sensationalism; it is the overuse of sentiment (a natural concern for another person) that produces a tear-jerker. It is dwelling too much on the "cute" and the "precious." Like sensationalism, it is a sign of poor quality but is often popular. Movies such as Love Story and Terms of Endearment are examples of sentimentality. Many popular children's books are overly sentimental. Black Beauty, The Velveteen Rabbit, The Giving Tree, I'll Love You Forever, and the works of Joan Walsh Anglund have all been criticized for this.
Setting
Setting includes the place and the time period in which the story takes place.

Setting may or may not have an important influence on the story:

An integral setting is essential to the plot; it influences action, character or theme.
A backdrop setting is relatively unimportant to the plot; it is like the featureless curtain or flat painted scenery of a theater.
Readers may interpret the importance of the setting differently; one may say that the setting is integral because the story must happen in a big city; another may say the same thing is backdrop because it may happen in any big city. (The former statement is probably more accurate, but either is acceptable if the meaning is clear.)
Setting can clarify conflict, illuminate character, affect the mood, and act as a symbol. The setting itself can be an antagonist in a person-against-nature conflict.

Theme
Theme is the underlying meaning of the story, a universal truth, a significant statement the story is making about society, human nature, or the human condition.

A book's theme must be described in universal terms, not in terms of the plot. The plot is the way the universal theme is carried out in that particular book. Themes can be applied to the reader's own life or to other literature.

Although themes can convey important messages, they should never be overtly didactic. Didacticism is preaching and teaching so explicitly that children lose pleasure in the story and reject its message.

The primary theme is most important theme in the story; children's books usually have one primary theme. There may be other secondary themes as well.

Types of themes:

An explicit theme is one that is stated openly in the book. It is stated in universal terms in the book itself.
An implicit theme is one which is not directly stated, but which the reader can infer. Many times, readers will not notice that an explicit theme is directly stated, but they can often infer the theme anyway.
Themes must be clearly stated; one word is not usually enough. To say that a book's theme is "friendship" is not clear. It may mean, "Friends are a person's most valuable possession." It may also mean, "Friends can never be trusted if their own interests are opposed to yours."

An understanding of theme is dependent upon one's previous experience of life and literature. At the same time, theme in literature can enlarge one's understanding of life.

Not every good book has a significant theme; some books' value lies in the pleasure they give, rather than the message they bring. Books of humor, for instance, may or may not have a significant theme.

Style
Style is the language used in a book, the way the words are put together to create the story.

Most children's books use standard written style. This style sounds natural, but when carefully analyzed, it is clear that it is more formal than most speech. Sentences are complete; expressions like "um," "you know," and "like--," are avoided; contractions are used less often than in ordinary speech. Lots of conversation may included, but the style as a whole does not sound like speech.
In conversational style, the language is more informal, it sounds more like the way people really talk. The narration as well as the character's speeches sounds conversational.
Dialect is easiest for children to read if word order or a few unusual words and expressions are used to suggest a difference from normal speech. Other languages may be suggested in the same way through speech patterns and foreign words. Foreign and unusual words should be explained naturally in context. An eye dialect, in which words are spelled the way they sound, is sometimes very hard to read.
An ornate or unusual style is sometimes used, especially in some high fantasy and historical fiction. Older editions of traditional literature and older poetry may also have such styles.
Writers use many devices of style to make stories interesting.

Imagery is the most frequently used device. It is an appeal to any of the senses--taste, touch, sight, sound, and smell. It paints pictures in our mind.
Figurative language uses words in a nonliteral way, giving them a meaning beyond their ordinary one.
Personification gives human traits to animals, nonhuman beings, or inanimate objects: "The trees bowed before the wind."
A simile compares two different things, using the words "as," "like," or "than": "The snowbank looked like a huge pile of marshmallow syrup."
A metaphor is an implied comparison stating the resemblance between two things: "Her presence was a ray of light in a dark world."
Devices of sound can increase pleasure and clarity. Books which use many such devices should be read aloud. Poetry is particularly rich in such devices.
Onomatopoeia is the use of words that sound like their meaning: a skirt "swishes," a bat "cracks," a hasty eater "gulps" his food.
Alliteration is repetition of initial consonants: "the soft surge of the sea."
Consonance is repetition of consonants sounds anywhere in the words: "The sight of the apple and maple trees pleased the people."
Rhyme is the repetition of a stressed sound, usually the final syllable: "His aim was to blame the dame."
Assonance is repetition of vowel sounds in a phrase: The owl swept out of the woods and circled the house."
Rhythm is the recurring flow of strong and weak beats in a phrase: "Chicka, chicka, boom, boom! Will there be enough room?" Meter is the regular rhythmic pattern of stressed and unstressed syllables found in a line of poetry. The less regular rhythm sometimes found in prose is often called cadence.
Puns and other plays on words add interest and humor: "By the time the milking was finished, the new farmhand was thoroughly cowed." Puns are said to be "the lowest form of wit," but people usually enjoy them even as they groan.
Hyperbole is exaggeration: "He was frightened out of his wits." Understatement is the opposite: "He was upset when he learned he had AIDS."
Allusion is an indirect reference to something outside the current literary work: "He was a veritable Hercules." The reference may be to something in literature, history, modern culture, or another area. Allusion is often difficult for children to recognize because they lack the necessary background knowledge. The proponents of "cultural literacy" believe that all children should acquire a common fund of knowledge in order to understand allusions.
A symbol is something--a person, object, situation, or action--which operates on two levels, the literal and the symbolic. For instance, an engagement ring is a real object, but it is also stands for the abiding love of the engaged couple. Symbols add depth and meaning to a story. Symbols may be universal (as the engagement ring) or specific to a particular story.
Qualities which should be avoided in style include triteness (dull, stale, overused expressions), condescension (talking down to children, making them feel unintelligent or immature), didacticism, sensationalism, and sentimentality. In poetry, avoid a too regular meter which can become a sing-song rhythm.


Point of View
Point of view depends upon who the narrator is and how much he or she knows.

Point of view may be:

First person - uses "I" - A character is telling the story.
Second person - uses "you" - The author speaks directly to the reader. Second person is seldom used; it is found most often in nonfiction today.
Third person - uses "he," "she," or "it" - The author is telling about the characters. There are three third person points of view:
Limited omniscient - We are told the thoughts and feelings of only one character (sometimes, but very seldom, of two or three characters).
Omniscient - We are told everything about the story, including the thoughts and feelings of all the characters, and even information in the author's mind which no character knows.
Dramatic or objective - We are told only what happens and what is said; we do not know any thoughts or feelings of the characters. It is called "dramatic" because it includes the words and actions, just what you would see and hear if it were in a play or film.
Tone
Tone is the author's attitude toward what he or she writes, but it may be easier to understand if you think of it as the attitude that you (the reader) get from the author's words. It is the hardest literary element to discuss; often we can recognize it but not put it into words. The easiest tone to recognize is humor. In describing tone, use adjectives: humorous, mysterious, creepy, straight-forward, matter-of-fact, exciting, boring, etc.
 
Ill love you forever
I'll like you for always
as long as I'm living
My baby you'll be​

DS will be 18 in 2 weeks and read this to him over and over when he was little. I knew the entire book by heart at one point. I "read" it to DS and 3 friends who we shared a room with on an overnight field trip.

The real point is that in the end the boy takes care of his Mother,:rolleyes1 I had ulterior motives:lmao:
 
We have enjoyed a lot of wonderful books without first considering if they were worthy. I think 'literary merit" is over-rated for the most part, and we should just read what we enjoy and enjoy what we read.
 
Thank you for the examples, DVCLiz -- that's exactly the type of thing I needed!

I wish my alma mater had offered children's literature classes in the English department. Instead, the only CL classes were in the education department -- and of course, I didn't recognize that I really feel called to be a teacher until this year, a couple of years after I graduated! :sad2: Instead, I endured a lot of required classes on post-modern literature :scared: , which I did not enjoy. And of course, although I had courses on literary criticism, there was never a class on literary quality, which IMHO would've been equally or more useful than learning feminist theory, queery theory, deconstructive theory, etc.

I took a children's lit course at the community college where I now work, but it focused on the history of children's literature in the US -- nothing about quality, necessarily. I appreciate the info, DVCLiz, and I'll be reading a lot more about it now that I plan to get a second degree in education. Thanks! (I still find value in "I Love You Forever," though. ;) )
 







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