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shmoogrrrl said:
Thanks guys!

I guess that I should have mentioned that I am already on Metformin. In addition to PCOS, I am also a diabetic, so I take 2000mgs of Metformin a day for both things. Kind of handy, really. I am also on insulin since they switched me to insulin after I got pregnant the second time. When I miscarried, they just left me on the insulin (I have excellent blood sugar management and a low dose of insulin) since we planned to try again.

I am so dreading injections if it comes to that. I am already giving myself one shot a day, more isn't sounding like too much fun!

I hope you don't have to go through injections, but I will admit that it's not THAT bad. If you're already used to one shot a day, a second and third isn't going to be a big deal.


Quick update here: Aunt Flo is back full force so I'm going in Wednesday for my FSH, E2, Prolactin, and Thyroid tests. The 3D sonogram is scheduled for next Monday at 10am.
 
Hi there everybody!

shmoogrrl - welcome!

Stepharoonie - lines are lines, and 2 is good!

Kristy - Good luck with all the testing. I know what you mean about the greasy food and the metformin - not pleasant the next morning.... :)

LisaB - is he nuts?!?!?!?!? I bet you he'd never say that in front of his friends ;)

Carla - it's funny how certain things are acceptible, but others will push you over the edge. I don't mind how many pills they tell me to choke down, but as soon as they talk about needles, I want to curl up in a corner and hide.

So my cd3 FSH was 5.6, which is in the normal range for day 3. My doc hasn't called to tell me yet, but I begged the result off the secretary. They're starting to understand that I have a clue what the numbers are about, just tell me what they are :) DH and I are both glad for the break from the Clomid for a few months. It makes me cranky.

Take care everybody

Jen
 
Happy monday ladies!

Carla- 22 viles, that is insane. the more I read about your experiences, the more impressed I am by your strength! :cheer2: i am with you on the diet thing...i love food and would have a worse time dieting than dealing with meds/shots etc. :rotfl:

well AF came on Saturday. actually on a normal cycle this month (27 days). i called the doc today. I have to go pick up my clomid and start taking it tonight. i've always taken it on days 5-9 before, but she said to start it tonight. i am going to call to confirm, since it's only day 3. i know they are giving me more ---i've only done 4 months on 50mg (and that was 3 months ago that I stopped it). anyways- also haev to get the novarel shot too. i guess that is the one that will force ovulation within 36 hours. i go in next wednesday on day 12, i guess for the shot instructions and sono. we will see how it all goes!

I am looking forward to more lovely clomid side effects! lol :rotfl: i guess it's not as bad as what many of you endure.

and only 18 days til my disney trip! :banana:
 
Thanks for all of the well wishes!!

I ended up buying three seperate boxes of tests (different brands) and took one of each. And all were positive. Then I took a Clearblue Easy digital one today...and it said pregnant! I nearly did backflips!

My poor hubby was soooo tired of trying. He was saying he was too tired most of the time...and I asked if that was supposed to be MY line :)

I was on the patch from August last year until November last year. It really messed up my cycle. We tried getting pregnant from January to now, and it finally happened. I was starting to get angry, because it just wasn't happening.

Interestingly enough, they encourgage you to have kids/get married/big life change BEFORE you get accepted into the dental hygiene program. Once you're in, you can't miss ANY time or else they'll drop you. So, it happened at a good time :)
 

Hi Everybody! :wave:

Congrats, Stepharoonie! That's awesome news! :cheer2:

No real news here - DH still insists that I have a pre-conception appointment before we start TTC so we "do this the RIGHT way". :rolleyes: I haven't been able to get in anywhere any earlier than my Sept 8 rescheduled appointment except for this really great clinic that everyone highly recommends but our insurance won't cover it so I'd have to pay $250 (!!!) for the appointment. The only way I could afford that is if I took it out of my Disney fund or didn't pay my student loan bill this month, and since neither of those is an option I'm trying to be patient. I am, however, calling the Dr.s every day or two to see if there's an opening any sooner.

In the meantime, I'm still charting so I've got some idea of what's going on before we start TTC, and DH is starting to talk about preparing to be parents. Of course, he's thinking of things like "clean out the garage so I can move my office in there since my office will become the baby's room" and "talk to our friends who have kids and still have something of a social life to find out how they do it and what decisions they've made to make that happen", but still making plans for a big trip next June ("should we go to Belgium or would you rather take an Alaskan cruise next year?"). :rotfl: I'm thinking he really has no idea...
 
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ImarriedGrumpy, DH is just now starting to figure out how much stuff and plans we need to make for this baby. It's actually kind of cute. (meanwhile I'm trying to talk him into an october disney trip as our last little by ourselves trip for a while- especially since we have some discounts and a couple of gift cards which would make the trip oh so very cheap!)

You should tell your DH not to get too attached to the June date. What if you get pregnant right away? Then you could be due in June!! Personally, for a little baby, I would choose the cruise (also a shorter plane ride for you). getting OT now- ;) -The Alaskan cruises are amazing. We went on celebrity last year (it was my 1st ever cruise) and I swear I know what they are talking about on those "I think of this as a temporary exile" commercials (although I don't like the new ones-they annoy me). When we got off in Vancouver I actually asked DH how I was supposed to sleep w/o the gentle rocking of the waves! :)
 
Congrats, Steph....a line is a line and a "Pregnant" is a "Pregnant"!!

Kristy, I hope they can figure things out from the tests. I always wish they'd find SOMETHING - something easy to fix, of course, but something to explain what in the heck is going on.

IMarriedGrumpy, I fully plan to go to Super Soap Weekend in November. Pregnant or not. Unless a doctor tells me I can't go, I'm going. I'm also planning another trip next year - I just make sure I know all the cancellation policies just in case. What's the deal with the pre-conception appointment? They don't do anything but talk to you about Folic Acid....maybe do an pap test if you're due....check your BP....tell you to get to an ideal weight....blah, blah. Pretty much anything any normal person "planning" a pregnancy would do. IMHO, it's a waste of $250. - especially $250. for Disney!

Michelle, I took my Clomid 50mg CD3-9. I didn't have any side effects the first round. Then, it built up in my system and the hot flashes started. I'm moody all the time, so nobody noticed a difference! :rotfl:

Jen, that's a good FSH....so what are they going to do now??

Denae, yeah, relaxing and putting pillow under my butt. Gee....never thought of THAT. But, when I was given the choice, I figured I'd go the IVF route instead. It's just so much more fun than sex. Although, I admit, I love me some anesthesia! :banana:

I didn't go to work today. I can't bend my arms well enough to drive. :rolleyes: I think she hit a nerve because my right arm keeps twitching. DH has to leave work early to come get me because I have an appointment with my gastroenterologist this afternoon. He has to be involved with me on the Metformin....even though I've only gotten some waves of nausea. I DID change my diet, so maybe that's why I'm doing OK on it. I go for my hand-holding appointment and weigh in tomorrow. She says she's taking me off the Met if I start losing weight. I don't think I am. I'm eating healthier, but I'm keeping it all with me.

I have my first acupuncture appointment Friday. If he thinks he's sticking any needles in my arms, he's crazy. :guilty:
 
Good morning ladies I had some slight cramping on my left ovary so I wasn't sure if it was from the cyst. I called the dr's office and she figured it would p[robably go away on its on with my next period. SHHHHHHHHHHH Kevin took off Monday night from trying I told him I was going to take away his man card. Day 14 past af
 
Hi there everybody!

Carla, how are you feeling? Arms any better? 22 vials is quite a bit.

LisaB, I'm pretty sure that's a great reason to lose one's man card. But tell the guys at the firehouse, and he'll deny it to his dying day :)

ImarriedGrumpy - My DH is just the opposite. He doesn't want to plan out too much ahead for anything in case I'm pregnant then. I keep trying to tell him I'll be pregnant, not dead! So why does the insurance company insist on a preconception appointment? Do they refuse to pay for people when it happens unexpectedly, or is it just so they have a baseline if there are any infertility issues? At least the appointment is only a month away!

Syyreal - Good luck talking him into the trip. I'm trying to convince him for next winter sometime.

exwdwcm - good luck with the Clomid. My doc put me on it for 5 days the first cycle, and then 7 days for each one after that. The only side effect I noticed was being REALLY moody. Enough that DH actually mentioned it to the doc. Good luck with the IUI.

The doc agrees with letting us take a break for 2 months, and if nothing happens on it's own by then, then we'll try IUI after that. He wants to try it with Clomid, but I'm thinking I'd rather try it with injectables (frightening, I know :) ) According to the temp stuff, I O'd with the Clomid, but the u/s from this last cycle didn't show any follicles. Since I didn't do u/s for any other cycle, I don't know if there ever were any. And I know this sounds stupid, but I'm getting older and don't want to waste any more time. I'll be 32 the end of this week, and really want to be done having kids by 35. That makes having 2-3 babies a bit more pressured, you know? As DH keeps telling me, just have twins!

Jen
 
Carla & Jen, (and everyone else wondering what's the big deal with the preconception appointment) :teeth: Our insurance is an HMO with a big emphasis on "take charge of your own health" (I like to add "so we don't have to"). You pick a "primary care physician" and women get to pick an ob/gyn, but in order to see any other doctor, you have to go through your primary care person first. So, for example, if I have allergies, I can't just schedule an appointment with an allergist. I have to go to my primary care physician, explain my symptoms to her, and then she gives me a prescription for something. If that doesn't work, I have to go back to her, and then she will either send me to the allergist or she will try something else.

So with the women's clinic, they want everyone who decides they want to get pregnant to go to a preconception appointment with their primary ob/gyn first. Then you are "in the system" for all future appointments and if there are any problems, your ob/gyn can schedule you with a fertility specialist without having to do the first ob/gyn appointment. Now that's not what they tell you when you call - they say "this is so you can take charge of your health". I'm sure some of it is driven by the fact that they get a lot of people who don't have a clue about having a healty pregnancy, but really folks, if you don't know enough to eat well and give up some things while you are pregnant, you aren't going to know enough to schedule a preconception appointment.

Anyway, DH heard that this is "what you're supposed to do", and mr. follow-the-rules decided that if the HMO says I need this appointment, then I must need this appointment and I should do this first before we start TTC. Never mind that EVERYONE else is telling him it's just crazy, he's still insisting that I need this appointment. So I'm going in for the appointment to appease him. The frustrating thing is that I ovulate the first week of the month (day 21 of every cycle like clockwork - it's the time from O to AF that changes every month), so I know that we're missing two chances waiting for this stupid appointment, and I'd really like to avoid being preg. in the hot summer months, so Aug and Sept seem like great times to be TTC to me! Oh well. I can't always get what I want...DARN!
Oh, and the extra baby I'm watching today is deciding that he doesn't want to nap and the poor kiddo is screaming his way through what should be his nap time. Another one of those reality checks about having a baby... Am I crazy that I still want my own baby despite the screaming today? Or am I just a glutton for suffering? :confused3
 
Lisa, that's too funny....taking away his "Man Card". I'd say mix it up a bit, but why should you do all the work? He could make it different instead of complain about it. :teeth: You take the drugs....he can make the "work" interesting. It's only fair.

Jen, I agree....wasting time with Clomid when you didn't have a follicle is silly. Move on to the injectables. They have less side effects and too much time on Clomid is bad anyway. It's so easy for the guy...well, just have twins! When my RE told us we could have quads from two embryos, DH thought it was a fabulous idea. :rolleyes: The arms are well enough for me to drive today. Of course it's 200 degrees here so I have to wear short sleeves. I must have looked like a junkie today in Hannaford's.

IMarriedGrumpy, I don't get HMOs.....they seem to just cost themselves more money. So, you need to see a cardiologist, but let's make you see a doctor before that - waste of money. But, how are they going to know if you start trying first? If you have problems, then they can go from the date of your appt. for fertility stuff. If not....oops! :thumbsup2 Ah, DH's......sometimes they make donor sperm very appealing.

My RE appt went well today. We talked for an hour. She explained all the stuff she tested. She even drew me pictures. She explained about the auto-immune stuff. She explained about the clotting stuff. Then she told me that she tested me for some kind of translocation where a piece of the X Choromosome breaks off. If it re-attaches (even if it's on the "wrong" spot), the person lives. If it just breaks off and doesn't re-attach anywhere, the person will die in utero. So, if I have it, there is a 75% chance that the baby will have the broken piece fly off and not live (in case of IVF, the embryo won't live), but a 25% chance that it will re-attach and be fine - well, not fine since they'll probably inherit the broken piece, but alive and normal until they go to have children and discover it. DH doesn't have to be tested because he already had his stuff done with the urologist - I guess there is a type of translocation men can have where the embryo/baby can end up with 0Y Chromosome instead of XY and it'll cause the embryo to die or m/c. She DOUBTS I have it, but since I demanded to have every test possible, she ran it.

Then, I told her what the phlebotomy supervisor said to me about going on vacation and relaxing and she was mad. She said she was going to call them and tell them to keep their opinions to themselves (well, not like THAT, but more or less not to tell her patients to relax and just draw the frickin blood).

Oh, and for big fun, I'm having a colonoscopy on the 22nd. So, my appt. with my gastro went great! :sad2:

At least I get more anesthesia. :rotfl:
 
Just wanted to step in with an update.

Had my first OB appt today and they did a quicky pic with the "fun stick" LOL!

I measured 3 days behind--but in line with my ovulation (hmmm...love it when we're right, eh?).

Saw baby and saw heartbeat--so all looks good and my "official" due date is March 24th.

I hope you guys have some luck making those babies. My posting time is limited now. I just wanted to post an update as I had some scares last week and even removed the siggy b/c it was upsetting me. But the siggy is back. :)

Carla--reading your latest post..I hope everything is okay!
 
Jen_in_NH said:
Hi there everybody!


exwdwcm - good luck with the Clomid. My doc put me on it for 5 days the first cycle, and then 7 days for each one after that. The only side effect I noticed was being REALLY moody. Enough that DH actually mentioned it to the doc. Good luck with the IUI.

The doc agrees with letting us take a break for 2 months, and if nothing happens on it's own by then, then we'll try IUI after that. He wants to try it with Clomid, but I'm thinking I'd rather try it with injectables (frightening, I know :) ) According to the temp stuff, I O'd with the Clomid, but the u/s from this last cycle didn't show any follicles. Since I didn't do u/s for any other cycle, I don't know if there ever were any. And I know this sounds stupid, but I'm getting older and don't want to waste any more time. I'll be 32 the end of this week, and really want to be done having kids by 35. That makes having 2-3 babies a bit more pressured, you know? As DH keeps telling me, just have twins!

Jen
yeah, the clomid is fun stuff! i've taken it before- i actually started it in Dec 05- and took it for four months- only 50mg, the lowest dose all 4 months. it worked. my sonos showed nice big follicles every single time and i had major O pain i had never experienced before. It even hurt to just touch my abdemon

so now i am back on the clomid, 100mg this time. taking third dose tonight. so far just major headaches. i didn't get the hot flashes until i had been on it for a few months last time.

i would go straight for injectables if I knew the clomid wasn't working. i am so with you- i am 32 now and will be 33 in September, only a few months away. DH is 34, about to be 35 end of the month. so we are in a time crunch (in our minds anyways) too. i want at least two. I'd be okay with twins...i say that now of course.....but i know the reality isn't easy. :rotfl: :confused3

congrats Stepharoonie!

Carla, glad to hear the arms are better. Colonscopy(SP?)-----not fun! i haven't had one, but know I will one day as there is colon cancer in our family. great fun huh? lol :rotfl:
 
I returned last night from Las Vegas...it was a great trip and just what I needed to relax a little and distance myself from all the infertility hassles going on.

Highlights of trip: some excellent frozen drinks, hitting a Royal Flush on Pai Gow Poker which paid me $300!, attending the World Series of Poker and meeting a bunch of famous poker players as well as celeb players including Tobey Macguire and Brad Garrett from Everybody Loves Raymond!

Now for the BIG news...while I was away - our first choice egg donor said yes AND she agreed to drop her requested compensation frm $7000 to $5800! So we have an egg donor (who we really like) and we are now going through all the medical screenings. I am hoping that I can be implanted in October!

Yeah!!

We also have a 2nd appointment regarding the Premature Ovaiarian Failure (POF) diagnosis at Brigham and Women's in Boston on Friday. I don't really want to go but my husband is insisting.

Some of you might remember that a few weeks ago a nasty nurse told me that my routine blood work showed a positive pregnancy result and I needed a repeat test immediately. On the first test the beta was 4.6 - on the repeat test (taken 4 days later) the result was still showing a positive but the beta had dropped to 4.0. The doctor told me it was a "false positive"

But here is the weird part...I was diagnosed with the POF on June 23rd - I had been off the pill and trying to get pregnant for 1 year prior to diagnosis. During that year - my periods had always been irregular ranging from 20 days to 40 days - but I had a period every month!! My last period was on June 2nd -- now here it is Aug. 2nd and still no period...61 days. I KNOW the doctors will say "blah blah blah...you condition causes irregular periods...it is nothing to read into..." But somewhere in the back of my head I think it is strange to have a positive (false) pregnancy test AND no period for 61 days.

So anyway -that is why my husband wants to keep our 2nd opinion appointment. I know I am not pregnant but I am aggravated and concerned about the no period in 61 days thing.

So it is good to be back home. Carla sorry you were the human pincushion recently. Jen in NH - maybe a short break is a good idea! Everyone else -- hope you are all well.

For me, for now - I am focusing on the fact that we have our Egg Donor and I am so excited about that!!! I just want to get the process underway and get that little embryo implanted in me!

Have a good night ladies.

Back to work for me tomorrow. Booo!!

But only 45 days until my WDW trip!

~Nicole
 
Have you done any hpt since you have gotten home??? It seems weird 40 days with no af but 60 days what the hell is going on. Well I am glad that you had a good trip and best of luck with the donor
 
No -- I have not done any HPT - I guess I could but I just *know* I am not preg. -- no symptoms. Plus - with a beta of 4 nothing would even show up on the HPT -- I think the most sensitive tests don't detect it until it is at least 25. When I go to Brigham & Women's tomorrow for the 2nd opinion I am going to ask them to run a blood test.

62 days w/o a period though is weird - even though I am irregular I am not that irregular. Hopefully this doctor tomorrow can shed some light on the situation.

~Nicole
 
Nicole, good luck at B&W. It's always good to get another view on things. That's great news about the egg donor. What made her lower her fee? I guess she had no takers at $7,000. :) Is she a student? Is she local? Someone should run a blood test and give you something to start AF.

Lisa, good to see everything is looking good. Do you have more appointments?

I have my first acupuncture appointment tomorrow. I'm not thrilled and I don't expect to be enlightened in any way, but they say you don't have to really "believe" for it to work, so I'll take the chance. I'm only going twice a week because it's $65./session. They like 2-3 times a week....maybe I'll increase more around retrieval and transfer, but for now, 2 times a week is good enough for me. I know I should go in with an open mind and all that crap and, if it works, I'll be screaming about how GREAT acupuncture is, but if not, I'll be REALLY mad that I wasted the $$$.
 
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Carla...glad to hear that your appointment went well and that your RE is doing what you want. Good luck with the acupuncture tomorrow.

Nicole...welcome back!! Definitely keep that appointment and see if the new doctors have any insights.

LisalovesPooh...congrats on your first checkup going well!!

exwdwcm...welcome to the group.

Jen...YAY for the doc letting you do your own thing :)

LisaB...LOL poor Kevin is losing his man card. Mine lost his a LONG time ago ;)

Sorry to anyone I missed...need to make this a quick visit.

I gave the doctors office 5 viles of blood yesterday. Aunt Flo is still misbehaving, but they ran the tests anyway. Now I just have to do the sonogram Monday morning. Prayers please that they find everything and we can go directly to the next cycle. I'm not really keen on having a Lap done :rolleyes:
 
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