Any other DISers trying to concieve? Reread OP for the QOTD!

[helenabear]

Quick hi here... I was wondering if someone could explain what you are tested for on Day 3 of your cycle if taking Clomid. I have a good friend of mine who is having very irregular cycles and TTC but her doc is testing her levels on CD 21??? She is already questioning her doctor, but I have only heard of y'all testing on CD 3. Just wondering if I can help her out with her battle a bit more. She's been TTC for 1.5 years now and until she talked with me, she never had a clue something could seriously be wrong

Allison, you are a sweetie, I just felt like I was a broken record. I even got tired of listening to it all and it was myself thinking everything. I figured if I hated hearing myself think of how worried I was, you all would hate it just as much
I do my best to not whine to anyone but my husband. It's just how I am. So unless someone wants to know what it is like to be pregnant while having bad sinuses, I figure y'all don't need the details I just am not as much into sharing unless asked

Gurgi, I have used that before and it is great stuff to have around!!!! I wish I had it when I sliced my finger open with a pill cutter

Michelle, I feel a lot more at ease now. Everything looks normal and on schedule (give or take a day or two) and I could see a baby shape forming. Okay huge head, tiny body by comparison I know the percentages are way way down now and that helps a lot. I won't get another ultrasound until about 20w. I will go in for my first dopplar at about 13w. Though I have the option to schedule another ultrasound between then if I do begin to worry. Nothing in this pregnancy feels the same as the last. At least not in the same ways and when/how it all started (symptoms). That is reasurring to me. This was my huge hurdle though. Seeing a heartbeat at about 6w meant nothing to me. 8w meant the world... I admit the first ultrasound I didn't cry at all. This one, wow... that heartbeating just did it in for me.

However, I still expect to see blood, though not every time I wipe. It's a horrible feeling though. So Allison, I can feel your pain on that... I hope that this one is a good one for you and you won't have to see any blood for a looooon time

Ash I am sorry you are so sick. I was getting worried when yous aid you lost so much in such a short amount of time. I have only lost about 5 pounds myself and it fluctuates.

Carla, I really do hope you have an easy delivery... you really have been through so much that you deserve it!

I slept in this morning and skipped early mass. I was at a friend's last night and ate too much and too badly... so I slept it off. I better get moving though so I can at least join my church crew for lunch.

 

[LisaB]

Hi guys just checking in. Kevin's dad died this week. He was 82 but his cancer had come back and spread to his bones and liver. Even though we were the total opposite him staunch republician me liberal democrat we got along really well. I loved debating politics with him and i think he loved getting me going. Please keep us in our prayers. He married Kevin's mom when Kevin was 7 and brought up Kevin and his brother. Kevin's bio dad had basically disowned them and claimed they weren't his. He left the family when Kevin was 5

 

[Tasha+Scott]

I'm sorry to hear about your FIL, Lisa! I will keep all of you in my prayers.

 

[skuttle]

Lisa, I'm so sorry to hear about your FIL.

 

[KimR]

Quick hi here... I was wondering if someone could explain what you are tested for on Day 3 of your cycle if taking Clomid. I have a good friend of mine who is having very irregular cycles and TTC but her doc is testing her levels on CD 21??? She is already questioning her doctor, but I have only heard of y'all testing on CD 3. Just wondering if I can help her out with her battle a bit more. She's been TTC for 1.5 years now and until she talked with me, she never had a clue something could seriously be wrong

I was assume on CD21 they are testing progesterone levels to determine if ovulation occurred. This is very common, although my OB did an ultrasound instead. The CD3 test is to test FSH levels, I believe, which can help predict if the Clomid is likelly to work in the first place. I believe the CD 3 test is usually performed on older patients who are likely to be close to (or already in) perimenopause. Hope this helps!

 

[helenabear]

I was assume on CD21 they are testing progesterone levels to determine if ovulation occurred. This is very common, although my OB did an ultrasound instead. The CD3 test is to test FSH levels, I believe, which can help predict if the Clomid is likelly to work in the first place. I believe the CD 3 test is usually performed on older patients who are likely to be close to (or already in) perimenopause. Hope this helps!

That does help a lot actually! I would think that the ultrasound would be more accurate. I know my friend is in her mid to late 20s but does not believe she has ovulated for the last few months. She has been charting and she did have two months she thought she did, but then 5 or 6 days later her period would come. I am not well educated enough in this area to help her out much, but she doesn't have many people to ask.

Lisa, I am so sorry about your FIL

I have a teeny rant... why can't peope leave me alone and quit asking me if eveyrthing is okay. A friend called and I wasn't in the mood to talk. She kept poking and proding saying I sounded sad. She just wanted to make sure. It was like she was hoping I would tell her that I lost this baby as well. I don't get it, if I say I am busy then leave me be... grrrrrrrrr.... she ticked me off enough that I think I am skipping my knitting group (that she s a part of) tonight.

 

[Gurgi]

Elaine, get used to it. I remember my Mom called every single day while I was pregnant with my daughter wanted to know what was up. Arugh!!

I'm so sorry, Lisa

 

[skuttle]

Elaine. Once you start to show, I'm sure that type of thing will decrease because people will be able to see that you're doing well.

Well, today is CD28. I can't explain how hard my heart was pounding when I woke up this mornign to go to the bathroom. CD28 is the earliest AF has ever arrived...counting my chemical pregnancy, the latest was CD34. So I have a few more days of holding my breath! I'm trying not to stress too much because if AF is on her way, I don't want stress to delay it. I just want AF to come and leave so we can TTC again! So it looks like this week is it for me! Part of me wants to test, but then I think about how excited I was to get those BFP's last month, only to have a super early miscarriage...I'll probably keep waiting. Espeically since I had BFP the day before I started bleeding.

My temp was still high this morning...that's another thing that makes me nervous! I hold my breath every time I press the button to show what my temp was!

All this breath holding...if you ever see something like this from me: jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj That probably means I passed out on the keyboard due to not breathing!

 

[mickeyboat]

Breathe, Allison. I am keeping my fingers crossed for you.

Elaine, I know it is hard, but most people really mean well when they ask about the baby. Yes, there are some that thrive on the dispair of others, but from what I know of you, you surround yourself with wonderful people, who care about you.

Ash, I am sorry you are so sick. Hope it passes, soon.

Gurgi - I hope you are on the mend, too.

I spent all last week taking care of both my kids who were sick with some sort of respiratory virus with high fevers. I almost took Hannah to the ER on Thursday, because her fever was 105.1. It was awful. This week is staff appreciation week, and I have spent lots of time preparing and setting up things at the school. I can't wait for summer so we can all just take a break from all the activities.

Have a great day, everyone!

Denae

 

[helenabear]

Thanks for letting me vent about that. I am not sure what irked me most about it. Probably the assuming the worst, being pushy about it added onto the "you're not still pregnant are you?" she asks now and then. I didn't even want her to know and she accidentally found out. Urgh. I'm seriously too much of a private person for this (like y'all would guess here, but I know you guys are different)

Gurgi, how are you feeling? I've been thinking of you a lot lately. My cousin just had her gallbladder removed through a similar type of procedure and had a lot of the same issues you had. She was out and out miserable for a few days and didn't have near the "work" done you did!

Allison, I say you should quit temping for now. I know... you want to know but if AF does show, it won't do you any good now. Try to keep busy if you can. Go out a lot if you can and just keep away from anything with your cycle. Easier said than done, but I don't want to see a bunch of J's from you My fingers are crossed though and I really do hope something good comes your way!

 

[exwdwcm]

Elaine- they usually will do a Progesterone test on day 21 to check progesterone levels, that is totally standard and normal, it tells them if the person did in fact ovulate or not. in fact, it means her doc is on top of things and really doing a good job to check for ovulation. Here is what i found online----Serum progesterone rises with ovulation, peaks 5-9 days following ovulation, and declines as the menstrual period approaches. Pregnancy rescues the corpus luteum and the progesterone level does not fall.
Progesterone is best tested 6,7, or 8 days following ovulation. Testing on day 21 presumes ovulation occurred on day 14. Ovulation on day 17/18 would mean that a day 21 progesterone level measures less than the = or >10 ng/ml desired peak value because one has observed the rise rather than the top of the curve.

Carla- wow, you so deserve an easy delivery out of everyone i know!! i sure hope it is. you have struggled much more than me, so i feel like such a wimp to even complain. lol

Denise, so sorry you are still feeling gross too. but you are right, i am not sorry i am pregnant, never in a million years, my body just hasn't handled it well apparently. but i am feeling a bit better (14 weeks now), and hopefully i will feel somewhat human again soon and can get back to normal life. going back to work this week is step one!

Skuttle- so sorry about FF- i never was good at tracking temps, so can't help you there. but it does sound like either you aren't ovulating or you are too late- luteal phase defect. has your doc been involved to check for late ovulation? i know it must be so frustrating! or maybe FF is totally off. i am hoping this is your month though!!! i am pulling for you Allison!!!

Gurgi, so glad you found neosporin with the numbing agent. you are a trooper. i hope you continue to feel better!!

Lisa, so sorry about your FIL, many prayers out to him and you and DH's family.

Elaine- so glad you are feeling better about this pregnancy. on your friend's poking around......to be honest, sometimes we just don't know what to say. I haven't suffered through a miscarriage, but i have suffered through years of infertility. i have 2 close friends that both could get pregnant pretty easy. both have toddlers and were trying for #2. one of them got prego right away, m/c early (like within days of her BFP). the other m/c at 6 weeks. I didn't know what to say to either of them. other than to let them know i am here and encourage them. now one of them is seeing my RE and the other got pregnant yet again, but this time m/c at 7 weeks. she is devastated. and i am sure i have said the 'wrong thing' to her more than once and never realized it or 'bugged' her too much about how she is doing. she always called herself 'fertile myrtle'. and now 2 m/c later she was debating even TTC again. it is so hard to know what to say. so while i am sure friends mean the best, they can bug you. sometimes we just don't know what to say to someone- i know my family wasn't sure what to say to me with how bad i feel. just know they care and if it gets to be too much- just screen your calls or let them know you are good and actually don't need to be checked on all the time. i know it is hard. i get it all the time too!!

feeling slightly better. had a bad day saturday, but okay days since. i haven't gone back in the office yet, as i was waiting on the doctor's note. it came last night, however my boss is working from home today and the temp is still using my computer. so i am checking email from home today and that's it. i will go in tomrorow though- and they should have another pc for the temp so i can have my laptop back. it should be interesting to see how i do. i am hoping that being back at work will actually give me the kick i need to get back into regular life.

 

[helenabear]

Again thank you all! I probably would feel different if this were a close friend of mine, but it isn't. She really does seem to be one who focuses on the bad and not the good. Probably why it irks me. I don't mind be asking by those I want to know how it is going, and they are all so positive. She's just not.

So Denae, I try to surround myself with good people... it just doesn't always happen the way you like it
I needed the break from her for sure.

Thank you also for the info Michelle. The issue my friend has is that her cycle is sooooo irregular. They made her wait to come in for the test even though it showed a temp spike at a different time and then by the time she came in AF had already showed. They won't budge on CD21 for her. Some months her cycle is less than 20 days and others it is 40. Most of the time when she has a longer cycle, she ovulates on about CD 27 and then w/in 5-6 days AF comes. I think that is her biggest irk. That and when she calls to talk to her doctor, the doctor never calls back and makes a nurse call her. Then when she has more questions and asks to talk to the doc, the nurse again calls back. I just think she feels like she isn't in good hands

Denae, I am sorry your girls were so sick. I hope that everyone is on the road to recovery! How many days/weeks do you have left of school? I think my district is down to 3-4 weeks.

Michelle, I am sure you are totally fine with your friends. Really that is the only one that bothered me lately. Everyone else just says "how's it going?" A simple hug and "I'm sorry" when things are bad seems to go a long way. I can relate to your friend who might give up TTC. If this one ends in miscarriage for me, we are done. You reach a limit sometimes with what you can handle.
Like I said it was the negativity surrounding this woman that bothers me. She always has the "bad news" for the group and dwells on it. THen again I should blow her off more because I know she is on anti-depressnats. So honestly as long as you are positive I doubt you say anything wrong.
Good luck going back to work!!!!! I am sure you will be fine

 

[mickeyboat]

Elaine - I had similar issues with my RE. I felt like there was a protocol in a binder somewhere that all TTC'ers had to follow - with no variation. Most of my appointments were with a PA, who I really liked, but who was just following the protocol. We didn't actually vary from the protocol until Christmas time, when the PA was on vacation and I got to see the RE himself. I made the suggestion to test for PCOS, and he thought for sure I had already been tested. I hadn't been, and I was pregnant less than a month later. Tell your friend to do some research on her own, bring it to the attention of the nurse and ask to see the RE himself. She needs a different protocol than she is on, and needs to stick up for herself to make sure it is done. If they refuse, or can't get her in for months, then I think it is time for her to see someone else. Good luck to her.

We have another 5 weeks of school left, maybe a few days more because we have to make up some snow days. The teachers are doing reading tests this week, and I am nervous about how my youngest will fare. She is not really struggling, but she doesn't enjoy reading, and is right on grade level. Being sick for a week before the test isn't going to help her, either. I hope to really work with her a lot over the summer.

Michelle, I bet getting back to work is just what you need to feel more normal again. But take it easy, you don't want to wear yourself out and make it worse. Your body is already doing an important full-time job!

Have we heard from Meredith (Villain-Lover) lately. I was not around much last week, and I am wondering if I missed an update. She was thinking it might be twins.

Denae

 

[2bemarried]

Hi all!!

It's been a long time since I last posted. I've lurked here and there and wanted to say congrats to all of you that were able to get pregnant!!

Carla good luck on your delivery! You deserve an easy one

I'll give a brief background for those who don't know me. I'm Kristy, my dh Derek and I have been ttc since 2005. Last year we tried our first round of IVF and I hyperstimulated. After that I went through a Laproscopy(sp?). My doctor basically told me to lose 10% of my weight and come back when I had accomplished that.
Well...I did it. I hit my 10% loss in April and she has given us her blessing to try again. Derek and I will be heading to the beach the end of this month so once AF shows up we'll go in for blood work and start the shots in June.
I'm excited and yet scared at the same time. I'm hoping that by losing the weight and taking my medications as prescribed will help me this time.

That's my update

 

[Villain-lover]

hey guys,,I have been reading, but just not posting. We are waiting for ultrasound next week to see if it's 1 or 2.... not having much in the way of symptoms other than tiredness, and that worries me not to have symptoms!!!! I know, it is early, and you guys with symptoms out the wazoo are probably thinking I am crazy. I just want everything to be okay!!! I am 6 weeks, going into week 7, so the fetal age is 4 weeks almost 5, an I know that is still early, but I am hanging on for next tuesday, and when I see the ultrasound I will allow myself to thing everything is okay!!!!!

am I psycho or what.....

good luck to all...Gurgi hope you are feeling better and skuttle, good wishes for you!!!

Meredith

 

[helenabear]

I appreciate your info as well Denae. She isn't even to the point of a RE yet. She is just dealing with her regular OB/GYN at the moment. She was totally frustrated when CD21 really was the same as CD3 yet they still made her wait to test She has done quite a lot of research which is why she is probably so frustrated. I plan on making notes to take in to her when I see her later this week. We work together at church and usually have good ol' "girl chats" weekly

Best wishes to your youngest... i am sure she will be fine. I am dyslexic and have reading comprehention issues so I get how one can feel about testing. I'll keep her in my thoughts.

Kristy, long time no see! I wish you all the best! We've had great success here lately with IVF

Meredith, don't worry about symptoms. I only was tired and had heartburn for week 4-5. I got a nasty sinus thing week 5-6 and couldn't feel the heartburn. The nausea kicked in just about the beginning of week 6 and my bbs were suuuuper sore then. Only slightly before then. So it takes a while sometimes for symptoms to kick in.

 

[mickeyboat]

hey guys,,I have been reading, but just not posting. We are waiting for ultrasound next week to see if it's 1 or 2.... not having much in the way of symptoms other than tiredness, and that worries me not to have symptoms!!!! I know, it is early, and you guys with symptoms out the wazoo are probably thinking I am crazy. I just want everything to be okay!!! I am 6 weeks, going into week 7, so the fetal age is 4 weeks almost 5, an I know that is still early, but I am hanging on for next tuesday, and when I see the ultrasound I will allow myself to thing everything is okay!!!!!

am I psycho or what.....

good luck to all...Gurgi hope you are feeling better and skuttle, good wishes for you!!!

Meredith

Thanks for the update! I called the doctor several times in both of my pregnancies, complaining that I didn't feel like I was pregnant because I didn't have any symptoms. I had a friend due near me, and she was sick constantly. I had very little morning sickness at all. It is different for everyone, so don't worry!

Denae

 

[Gurgi]

Hey gang. I AM feeling better, but having a few odd pains on my right side. I'm wondering...secretly hoping...that it could be ovulation pains. If I get them the way that I used to, I am going to be so excited!

 

[helenabear]

Hey gang. I AM feeling better, but having a few odd pains on my right side. I'm wondering...secretly hoping...that it could be ovulation pains. If I get them the way that I used to, I am going to be so excited!

My fingers are so crossed for you!!!!!!!!!

 

[skuttle]

I'm still breathing! LOL!

Elaine: I usually temp when DH's alarm goes off in the morning, so it's not too much of a hassle. I have so few months where I actually stuck with the temping, I plan on temping until/if AF arrives just so I can have a full month. I know there's not much I can do now, but I'm trying to get a better grasp on my cycles so that I have something to report when I go for my visit in August.

Denae: I hope your girls are feeling better. Fever is so scarey to me because it could mean so many things.

Michelle: I finally had O pop up on FF. They show CD22, but I'm not positive it's correct based on when I saw EWCM. Plus, I had some sleep issues which may have thrown off my temps. Last time I managed to actually temp the entire month they showed O on CD20, so suppose it could be right. My cycle lasts anywhere from 28-32 days. I have an appt with my Dr in August. It'll be a year next month that I went off BCP, but still not really a year that we've been really trying.

Meredith: Good luck! Don't worry about your symptoms. I was 7w before I even knew I was pregnant with DS...the ONLY symptom I had was fatigue. I never had morning sickness, sore bbs...none of that. I was tired and starving, that was about it! The frustrating thing about pregnancy is that everyone experiences it so differently!

Kristy: Good luck!!

Gurgi: Glad you are feeling better. Hope things continue to go well for you!