Annual Pass Discount for DVC Members While Renting Points?

[lisa3635]

I read that when you rent DVC points you receive alot of their benefits (free internet and such). I also read that your key to the world generally says "dvc member." Could someone tell me if you can purchase an annual pass with the DVC discount if you are renting points? Thanks.

 

[dgaston]

No. You have to have the Blue DVC membership card for that.

 

[lisa3635]

No. You have to have the Blue DVC membership card for that.

Thanks. I kind of thought that since I didn't see it anywhere.

 

[Lynne M]

I read that when you rent DVC points you receive alot of their benefits (free internet and such).

Actually, you don't. You'll get all the benefits of being a Disney resort guest (free parking, use of DME, charging to the room, etc), but renters aren't entitled to the member benefits.

Your card will say "DVC member" on it, but that's because the reservation is owned by a member. Most of the time I'm asked to show my membership card when I use the member perks.

 

[DebbieB]

For the AP discount, you also need to show ID at the same address as the member and be a family member. So unless you are family living at the same address, you couldn't get the discount even if the member was there.

 

[Deb & Bill]

If you are not a member, you are not entitled to any member benefits - unless you are staying with the member while they are staying on points. And then, you are only entitled to a bare minimum.

 

[littlestar]

For the AP discount, you also need to show ID at the same address as the member and be a family member. So unless you are family living at the same address, you couldn't get the discount even if the member was there.

Exactly. We can't buy them for our grown kids since they no longer live with us.

 

[Brian Noble]

There appear to be three categories of perks offered to those on a points stay:

Member: gets the whole ball of wax. Has DVC Member on their KTTW, plus the Blue Member ID.

Guest of member: gets some, but not all, of the perks (as I understand it, even if the Member is not there.) Has DVC Member on their KTTW, but not the Blue Member ID. Such stays do get complimentary high-speed internet, and a few other odds and ends. These guests are also given a copy of the current Portable Perks.

Renter (either from a Member, or from CRO): gets none of the DVC perks. Does not have DVC Member on the KTTW card. Is not given a copy of PP.

Generally, II inbound exchanges have reservations coded as renters, not as guests---even if they are members. In such cases, they need their Blue Member ID to get access to perks, and may or may not be entitled to all of them, depending on how exactly you read the guidelines.

However, DVC relies on its Members to distinguish between renters and guests when they use their points for others. Obviously, a "landlord" is not inclined to make that distinction, because then his "rental product" has less value if he does. So, nearly all renters are treated as de facto guests.

Edited to add: in any event, you must have the Blue Member ID for the AP discount.

 

[missy2217]

"Renter (either from a Member, or from CRO): gets none of the DVC perks. Does not have DVC Member on the KTTW card. Is not given a copy of PP."

We are currently in the process of purchasing DVC. When we did rent we received a copy of the perks and were able to get them with our DVC room key. We received the discounts in the restaurants. That was all we really tried to use it for and there was no problemd.

 

[Deb & Bill]

"Renter (either from a Member, or from CRO): gets none of the DVC perks. Does not have DVC Member on the KTTW card. Is not given a copy of PP."

We are currently in the process of purchasing DVC. When we did rent we received a copy of the perks and were able to get them with our DVC room key. We received the discounts in the restaurants. That was all we really tried to use it for and there was no problemd.

That may have been true on that trip. But renters are not entitled to member benefits according to the Public Offering Statement.

 

[DebbieB]

The problem is member services and the front desk don't always distinguish between a "member guest" and a "renter". They frequently give the renter the "member guest" status and put "DVC Member" on the key. I've never rented points or made a reservation for anyone else, so I don't even know if they ask what the arrangement is. I think they prefer to stay out of that.

 

[crisi]

"Renter (either from a Member, or from CRO): gets none of the DVC perks. Does not have DVC Member on the KTTW card. Is not given a copy of PP."

We are currently in the process of purchasing DVC. When we did rent we received a copy of the perks and were able to get them with our DVC room key. We received the discounts in the restaurants. That was all we really tried to use it for and there was no problemd.

According to contract (from what I remember), the DVC member is supposed to let MS know that they are renting for cash - then MS is supposed to code the account accordingly and then your card doesn't say member - and you don't get perks.

And according to the rules, no one drives 37 in a 35 either. No one ever rolls through a stop sign, and all household toxic waste gets taken to the toxic waste facility.......

In truth, I have no doubt that it rare that a member tells MS that their "guest" is a "paid guest" or that MS would know what to do with that information.

We've been getting asked more and more for the blue card when using member perks. But we usually forget to ask for them - we got carded (and asked for the blue card) hopping to the Poly. And we've had to give the blue card for dining discounts.

There are a few perks that its pretty difficult to get if you aren't a member - its pretty impossible to get the AP discount without being a member or living in a member's household.

 

[CarolMN]

The problem is member services and the front desk don't always distinguish between a "member guest" and a "renter". They frequently give the renter the "member guest" status and put "DVC Member" on the key. I've never rented points or made a reservation for anyone else, so I don't even know if they ask what the arrangement is. I think they prefer to stay out of that.

I recall reading some posts by owners that specifically tell MS that they are renting(like we are supposed to do) and it doesn't matter at check in - i.e., their renters are treated like guests. To me, that means MS/DVC has no system to distinguish between guests of owners and renters or generally chooses not to use it if one exists. My guess is that only those who exchange in are actually treated as "renters" for the purposes of the member perks.

 

[Brian Noble]

When we did rent we received a copy of the perks and were able to get them with our DVC room key. We received the discounts in the restaurants. That was all we really tried to use it for and there was no problemd.

There are several possible reasons. The first could be that your landlord "forgot" to tell MS that you were a renter, and not a guest. The second could be that MS coded the reservation incorrectly. The third could be that the front desk goofed when checking you in. If any one of those things happens, poof, you're a guest and not a renter.

My guess is that only those who exchange in are actually treated as "renters" for the purposes of the member perks.

I've had inbound exchanges handled both ways---as a guest, and as a renter. But, I gather the latter is what is "supposed to" happen--at least, last time I checked. On the other hand, inbounds are allowed to speak to MS directly, and are the only non-Members that can do so.

 

[littlestar]

. . .On the other hand, inbounds are allowed to speak to MS directly, and are the only non-Members that can do so.

Right. II inbound exchangers pay an extra $95.00 fee to Disney so I would hope they'd be able to talk to MS.