Am I losing points??

[Klane64]

I booked a week in October, however I had to cut 4 days off. These points are from my use year 12/19. Since I cannot bank them, will I lose them if I don't take another trip this year?

 

[RobDoc]

If you are not able to bank them they will expire at the end of the current Use Year.

If they were originally borrowed from your December, 2019 Use Year, they cannot be banked since borrowed points may not be banked back into their original Use Year.

If they were actually from your current December, 2018, you might see if MS would allow a one-time banking exception due to the circumstances and maybe they can still be banked for use in your 2019 Use Year.

Good luck!

 

[Marionnette]

I booked a week in October, however I had to cut 4 days off. These points are from my use year 12/19. Since I cannot bank them, will I lose them if I don't take another trip this year?

They’re from your 12/19 UY? That would mean that they were borrowed into your 2018 UY (Oct. 2019 is in your Dec 2018 UY). So, you have 2 things working against you. You cannot unborrow points or, assuming that they are actually 2018 points, you are months past your banking deadline.

If you cannot travel between now and the end of November consider either upgrading your reservation to something bigger or put the points up for rent at fire sale prices to move them quickly.

 

[Deb & Bill]

But finding anything to book between now and the end of your UY will be difficult.

 

[Sandisw]

To add, if you canceled those days 30 days or less from check in, those points are now in holding status and will expire at the end of your UY.

It also means they can only be used for trips 60 days or less from check in. In this case, since we are almost to October 1st, this restrictions isn’t really going to play much of a role since the end of your UY is November 30th.

The bigger problem, as mentioned, is that there is very little availability left to book other nights, or even upgrade room size,

This is why traveling late in your UY is risky. There aren’t many options for points returned to your account from a cancellation

 

[MouseOfCards]

Agree with PP, if you cannot bank them and they were borrowed from the next year, then call MS and ask if they can do one-time exception and allow you to un-borrow them. Wishing you the best.

 

[Sandisw]

Agree with PP, if you cannot bank them and they were borrowed from the next year, then call MS and ask if they can do one-time exception and allow you to un-borrow them. Wishing you the best.

Other then in cases of hurricanes, MS doesn’t give exceptions to unborrow. They have been known to allow a member to bank late with a one time exception but not with borrowed points.

 

[Frederic Civish]

If Member Services can't help you (and they most likely won't), then your best bet is to try to rent them out, and the most efficient way to do that is through someone like David's Vacation Rentals. https://dvcrequest.com They often have requests for Aulani, or a day or two here or there. However, they don't like to handle only small numbers of points, so you might need to be willing to throw a few more in. Still, I would definitely consider this and email them or call them.

Your points are probably Holding Points at this point, if you made your change within the 30 day window. Holding Points can only be used to make a reservation that is no more than 60 days out.

However, holding points or not, there is another possibility you might consider: Even though all the resorts and rooms are booked up between now and the end of November (your points will expire December 1st), there are a lot of people who cancel at 31 to 35 days out, so that THEY can avoid holding points) and single days (and sometimes multiple days) become available at many surprising locations. This is a fluid and flexible thing, and would require you to CHECK for availability at all resorts, multiple times per day. But, if you did this, you would undoubtedly find a day or two, here or there, popping up at some nice resorts. And if they do, then you could go grab it and make a reservation for yourself, and then put the reservation out on the boards for rent.

In any case, if you rent them out, I would not price them at more than about $12 a point, since you really want to MOVE them, and get SOMETHING for them. I try to get $18 or more per point for my points when I make reservations many months in advance, but I have rented them for as low as $12 in the past, in situations just like this.

If you price the points low enough, SOMEONE will probably figure out a way to use them, and pick them up. At least you could cover your Maintenance Fees, plus a bit more.

 

[Sandisw]

If Member Services can't help you (and they most likely won't), then your best bet is to try to rent them out, and the most efficient way to do that is through someone like David's Vacation Rentals. https://dvcrequest.com They often have requests for Aulani, or a day or two here or there. However, they don't like to handle only small numbers of points, so you might need to be willing to throw a few more in. Still, I would definitely consider this and email them or call them.

Your points are probably Holding Points at this point, if you made your change within the 30 day window. Holding Points can only be used to make a reservation that is no more than 60 days out.

However, holding points or not, there is another possibility you might consider: Even though all the resorts and rooms are booked up between now and the end of November (your points will expire December 1st), there are a lot of people who cancel at 31 to 35 days out, so that THEY can avoid holding points) and single days (and sometimes multiple days) become available at many surprising locations. This is a fluid and flexible thing, and would require you to CHECK for availability at all resorts, multiple times per day. But, if you did this, you would undoubtedly find a day or two, here or there, popping up at some nice resorts. And if they do, then you could go grab it and make a reservation for yourself, and then put the reservation out on the boards for rent.

In any case, if you rent them out, I would not price them at more than about $12 a point, since you really want to MOVE them, and get SOMETHING for them. I try to get $18 or more per point for my points when I make reservations many months in advance, but I have rented them for as low as $12 in the past, in situations just like this.

If you price the points low enough, SOMEONE will probably figure out a way to use them, and pick them up. At least you could cover your Maintenance Fees, plus a bit more.

The problem with renting them out is not how to do it but the availability right now. There is very little available right now for October and November...the only months left for the OPs points to be valid.

So offering them to an agency, even at a distressed price, wonT yield a rental if there are no rooms to book.

 

[Frederic Civish]

The problem with renting them out is not how to do it but the availability right now. There is very little available right now for October and November...the only months left for the OPs points to be valid.

So offering them to an agency, even at a distressed price, wonT yield a rental if there are no rooms to book.

This is true. They might need to do it all themselves. HOWEVER, if you check the boards multiple times per day, you will find that in the 30 to 35 day window a lot of rooms open up, one or two days at a time, at many resorts, as people who booked, "Just in case" decide they won't be going or using those reservations, so they cancel them so that they can avoid holding points.

If the OP reserved a single night in a good location, they could almost certainly go on the Rental boards and rent it out.

It is definitely a hassle, but if they are going to lose the points otherwise?

 

[Sandisw]

This is true. They might need to do it all themselves. HOWEVER, if you check the boards multiple times per day, you will find that in the 30 to 35 day window a lot of rooms open up, one or two days at a time, at many resorts, as people who booked, "Just in case" decide they won't be going or using those reservations, so they cancel them so that they can avoid holding points.

If the OP reserved a single night in a good location, they could almost certainly go on the Rental boards and rent it out.

It is definitely a hassle, but if they are going to lose the points otherwise?

Typically maybe, but not in October and November. But if someone is looking for just one night, and doesn’t care able it room size, then there would be a possibly to use up some points.

I have been watching studios for my upcoming trip as my airfare time was change a month ago. Pretty much sold out. I lucked into SSR to aid to my trip, but since then, no otHer room has shown up and I check 5 to 7 times a day.

But, as you said, if someone is willing to do that much work to try and get a night booked, they could end up with something. If it were me, maybe what I’d do is snag something if I saw it and offer that vs, just points.