Am I being rude?

[makinorlando]

One fact is that your child might not be there to "replace" you in line at the time for "his" turn. Then what? Do you expect everyone to wait, or will you step to the side, then causing confusion when your child does appear for "his" turn that was missed, or will you at that time go to the now back end of the line, and wait for your turn again?

What if everyone or the majority of people in the line are doing the exact same thing -can you imagine what a bottle neck it would create?

I also agree with the teacher's point of view. My DD is frequently asking why is it okay for them to cut in line? It just sends a message that I am not willing to send to my child.

Sign me up with another 'it is not rude' vote. As long as you don't have 6 kids you are letting in with you at the last minute, I wouldn't have a problem with it.

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So what if the person that does save the spot in front of you has six people? Then is it not okay? Each of the kids has their own book and wants and individual picture..... and by the time those six kids are done -it's time for the character to go in for their break? They do have an exact stop time, and you would then need to wait for them to come out from their break..... see how it gets complicated?


We were at EPCOT the on 4/21, and DD and I followed Coda and Kenai from the Canada Pavilion to the meet and greet spot, and got in the line where the CM told us. Another family of 2 girls jumped right in to give hugs, etc to the characters. No pics, no autograph books. They then moved away, so it was DDs turn. After DDs turn - they tried to get to the characters again because Mom now had the camera ready. CM told them to go to the back of the line!

Believe me, I have seen some things that I just could not believe. No common courtesy of waiting your turn! It's times like these that I think we can be good examples of manners and common courtesy to our children.

Sorry, but this is just a "hot" button for me....

 

[winniethepoohsmom]

I have to agree with what most people are saying, if we got on a character greeting line and there was one person ahead of us and one other person came and joined them in line it would not bother me, but I know some people get cranky dealing with the crowds and the lines and their children getting cranky, but it's not like you're bringing in a whole group of people. I probably would'nt do it unless the character lines were long to avoid getting to the front of the line to soon.

 

[bizeemom4]

You do it, so it's just fine and dandy for you. I would never do that, and I've always taught my kids to wait in line like everybody else. So when I'd see a parent doing it I'd think, "What a jerk of a mom not making her kids wait in line while mine have waited patiently all this time."

I agree. I think it's very rude and I would be really irritated if you finished with one character and let your little darling hop in line in front of my kids who are waiting their turn.

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

I may get flamed for this, but besides the rudeness factor, also think about what this says to your son about cutting. As a teacher, waiting in line is very hard for children. Other children would not tolerate this behavior, so if your child does this type of cutting (even if you are holding a spot,) but then does the same thing at school holding a spot for a friend, the child's peers or teacher may not accept this, and it may be difficult for him to understand since it was something he learned from mom. Not to give an opinion of rudeness, just wanted to point out other implications. You sound like you are thinking about how others will feel, so I just thought this might be a factor you might not have considered.

No flame here. I hadn't looked at it from that perspective.

 

[ToontownPrincess]

The problem is everyone who agrees it's ok says that "it's only a few people joining and doesn't make much of a difference." Well where is the line drawn? One group sees someone else allowing in one person with them....then someone else thinks, "well they let in one person,so two people won't make a difference"....then someone else thinks "well three is only one more than two"....then 4...5...6...7..and so on!!! Who gets to say when it's too much?

Oh and about the FastPass comment.....even though many people think the fastpass line is different and they do send one person to get their whole parties' FastPasses I know my group has never done that. I go with a group of about 5-6 and we always get in line next to each other and get our own FastPasses. I just feel I should show people the same courtesy I would want to see from others.

 

[Marseeya]

Sign me up with another 'it is not rude' vote. As long as you don't have 6 kids you are letting in with you at the last minute, I wouldn't have a problem with it.

I have a question for those who think it is wrong and it is only right to have the whole family wait in each line together...have you ever let one person in your party wait in a FastPass line and swipe EVERYONE'S cards in to get the FP's? Seriously, I'm curious - maybe you have everyone in your party wait in these lines too. I consider myself an authority on fairness and I really don't see a problem with it.

Line holding, line cutting, place saving -- all the same to me. On our last trip, DH was the fast pass runner. When he got the FP's for everyone for one ride, we waited outside the other ride for him, and then we all went in together.

 

[makinorlando]

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The problem is everyone who agrees it's ok says that "it's only a few people joining and doesn't make much of a difference." Well where is the line drawn? One group sees someone else allowing in one person with them....then someone else thinks, "well they let in one person,so two people won't make a difference"....then someone else thinks "well three is only one more than two"....then 4...5...6...7..and so on!!! Who gets to say when it's too much?

Oh and about the FastPass comment.....even though many people think the fastpass line is different and they do send one person to get their whole parties' FastPasses I know my group has never done that. I go with a group of about 5-6 and we always get in line next to each other and get our own FastPasses. I just feel I should show people the same courtesy I would want to see from others.

 

[PoohnPglet]

Would you like the official line?
From a WDW CM as well as a character attendent?

We ask that no matter what the line is for that you keep your entire party together. This does help us gauge wait times, but also prevents others from getting upset over what MANY guests perceive as line-cutting. There are some tip guides out there that actually recommend the "dad in one line - mom in the other" approach as a way to save time, but it really is not allowed. Not for one child or for six.

Having said this, it should be noted that this is EXTREMELY hard to enforce as some of those that tend to do this are also those that get the most belligerent and many attendents just don't want the confrontation. Also, although management and Guest Relations say this is the policy, they do not really back us up when it comes down to it. So many times you will see it happening anyway.

 

[Twinprincesses]

I have mixed feelings on this I guess. When we went to WDW we waited in line for every charcter as a family. The lines were never outrageous so it was not long waits. I do think that it would give my kids the wrong idea if they got to jump in front of others even though mommy was there KWIM??

 

[makinorlando]

Would you like the official line?
From a WDW CM as well as a character attendent?

We ask that no matter what the line is for that you keep your entire party together. This does help us gauge wait times, but also prevents others from getting upset over what MANY guests perceive as line-cutting. There are some tip guides out there that actually recommend the "dad in one line - mom in the other" approach as a way to save time, but it really is not allowed. Not for one child or for six.

Having said this, it should be noted that this is EXTREMELY hard to enforce as some of those that tend to do this are also those that get the most belligerent and many attendents just don't want the confrontation. Also, although management and Guest Relations say this is the policy, they do not really back us up when it comes down to it. So many times you will see it happening anyway.

Thanks for all you do to help make our days at "The World" Magical!

 

[Belle0101]

I don't think I feel comfortable saying that it is or isn't rude but think about this -

I'm a single mom with my child at WDW. My child wants to have an autograph and a picture. The characters are only out for a set amount of time. We wait in line, get our autograph and picture, move to the next line. Repeat until the characters go on break.

Instead DH & I take child to WDW. I take our child through one line while DH holds a spot in the other line. We finish with the character and our child goes to where dad is in the other line and I get in another line to hold a spot. Repeat until characters go on break.

How many more characters did the second child have the chance to visit with because s/he had the advantage of an additional person who was willing to hold a spot, or spots, in line for them?

I guess what I'd call it is working the system really.

"If you have not had an experience to be in the PR Meet and Greet area at the time when the PRs appear - it is a sight. You would think they were giving away money."

I've had the experience and I agree with you. It was awful.

"I have a question for those who think it is wrong and it is only right to have the whole family wait in each line together...have you ever let one person in your party wait in a FastPass line and swipe EVERYONE'S cards in to get the FP's? Seriously, I'm curious - maybe you have everyone in your party wait in these lines too."

I don't consider the Fastpass line the same as to see a character or attraction. The idea is to get in and out of line as quickly as possible, imho. Added to that, there's no way I'd have trusted my (then) 4yr old to swipe his own ticket for a Fastpass. I don't think I'd even trust him now at age 6.

 

[dzorn]

I certainly will do this when possible. DD is autistic and cannot tollerate lines or that many people closing in on her. Waiting is a concept she cannot grasp. I will let her walk around till it is almost our turn. I understand mine is a different situation, but even with the typical child I don't see anything rude about it. You are waiting for them. Not difference. In the UG it even tells you what rides at MK this works well on and how many places in line to get behind the first group going in.

Denise In MI

 

[PoohnPglet]

Thanks for all you do to help make our days at "The World" Magical!

Thank YOU for this! You would be surprised at how often we hear the exact opposite!


p.s. love your Jiminy photo!

 

[Tricia1972]

I believe that the teacher stated it perfectly. Think of what lesson you are teaching your child, and how it will impact them after Disney.

Personally I would be a little annoyed, but wouldn't let it ruin my trip.

 

[mytwotinks]

Sorry, but I think it is super rude. Each "autograph seeker" should only get to take up one spot in the line. So unless you are interested in getting the autograph for your own book, I really think that you shouldn't be taking up a space in the line. I know that adults like to get pics. too and I don't think that there is anything wrong with that at all as long as they wait their turn.

 

[PoohnPglet]

I certainly will do this when possible. DD is autistic and cannot tollerate lines or that many people closing in on her. Waiting is a concept she cannot grasp. I will let her walk around till it is almost our turn. I understand mine is a different situation, but even with the typical child I don't see anything rude about it. You are waiting for them. Not difference. In the UG it even tells you what rides at MK this works well on and how many places in line to get behind the first group going in.

Denise In MI

We certainly do understand the difference in your case. That is why Guest Relations offers the different Guest Assistance Cards. (Scoot over to the DISabilities board - Sue is awesome with her info!)

As for the UG's suggestions, maybe that is why it is "unofficial"?

 

[dzorn]

We will certainly get a GAC for DD but we try to use it as little as possible. We try and rely on FP. For characters we will do several meals just to avoid this situation. And will arrive at Character locations at least 15 minutes before they are there. Last year DD was first in line and Mickey walked her all the way to his tent. It was wonderful to see the look on her face.

Denise

 

[Fantasmic303]

Oh my dear....we do this all the time, and I never even considered that people would view it as line cutting.

I apologize for that for any of you I may have "cut", but it really never occurred to us. We don't have any kids in our party, and we never get autographs, but we like to do photos, usually in pairs or as a group of sisters. It's not always intentionally...we usually head to the line for our personal favorite...say, I go to Daisy, my sister is at Minnie, and my other sister is with my mom at Goofy. Maybe my line moves quick, so I hop in and take a photo with my sister and Minnie, and her line moves faster than Goofy, so we're all able to get into the photo with Goofy. In our case, you're either there for the picture, or you're not in it - no waiting around for the entire party to show up, but no problem jumping into the shot.

I guess that, in our case, I've just never considered it because it was one photo, either way, regardless of it was one, two, three, or four of us. When you start talking about autographs and groups of several little kids who want to play with the characters (nothing wrong with that, I think it's adorable, but that's clearly going to be a longer interaction), then I suppose I can see where the concerns come in.

Again...I'm sorry, and I'll think twice about it next time, but I'm pretty sure that I won't get tempered about it if a parent holds a spot in front of me.

 

[tinker&belle]

OT- Fantasmic303 how did you meet Clay?

 

[Fantasmic303]

OT- Fantasmic303 how did you meet Clay?

My sister waited in a long line for me, and then I cut into it at the last second.






Or I met him backstage at his show in Boston last summer. And in case you wondered, "Kylene, did you impress him with your grace, wit, and charm?"

The answer would be Yeeeeeaa----HECK NO.

First I confused him, then I accused him of spelling my name wrong (which he totally did, even though he had already written it on the picture like four inches away from where he wrote it a second time), and then I stepped on his toes. Yeah, I'm pretty sure he was totally enchanted by me.