AKV - Total Points 2019 v 2020

[PKen82]

Ok, so I had a look at the total points at AKV based on the point distributions by room - 2019 v 2020. I’m seeing a deviation in the total points....more than can be explained by leap years or when weekends fall, etc. Can someone tell me where I went wrong?

 

[PKen82]

P.S. When I ran the same numbers using the 2018 point distribution, I got a number VERY close to 2019. But 2020 is off.

 

[Wakey]

100,000 points extra? Nice little earner? Is this multiplied across all the resorts? Have Guides been told to prepare for a new influx of owners needing small add ons?

 

[PKen82]

According to the charts by use year (https://dvcnews.com/index.php/dvc-p...ear-distribution-charts-updated-february-2018), AKV has 7.4 million points. The 2020 points per night, using the same number of rooms between 2019 and 2020, yields an extra 100,000 points. Explain this??

 

[Mainstreetdreams]

I thought they couldn't legally add on points? I think
we must be missing something. I don't think they would intentionally break the law when it would be so easily caught.

 

[PKen82]

Well this is why I posted the points per night and room distribution....so someone can tell me where I went wrong?

Again though, I ran the same assumptions with the 2018 points per night, and got a number very close to 2019. Something’s amiss......

 

[tjkraz]

Lockoffs should all be counted as Two Bedroom villas.

Also you only have 101 weekend nights accounted for in your seasons. Should be 104.

 

[Cyberc1978]

Well this is why I posted the points per night and room distribution....so someone can tell me where I went wrong?

Again though, I ran the same assumptions with the 2018 points per night, and got a number very close to 2019. Something’s amiss......

Could it be because they re-categorized some of the villas?

 

[PKen82]

Lockoffs should all be counted as Two Bedroom villas.

Also you only have 101 weekend nights accounted for in your seasons. Should be 104.

When I made that assumption, the 2019 number was off the 7.4 million. As for the weekend nights, maybe that’s it (which one is off?), but my assumption is consistent 2019 to 2020.....

 

[PKen82]

Could it be because they re-categorized some of the villas?

This is definitely a possibility. But a sneaky one if so!

 

[DougEMG]

Lock-offs are counted as two bedroom for points. Changing the point cost of the studio and 1 bedroom that go into a 2 bedroom lock-off does not change the "legal" point totals for the resort.

 

[tjkraz]

There may be some problems with your rooms counts, too. You only have 18 grand villas and my records say 22. But I’m far from an expert on this resort.

I was able to personally reconcile BCV, SSR and VGF 2020 to within a couple hundred points of their 2019 counterparts. A friend did the same for Boulder Ridge. Count all of the lockoffs as Two Bedroom villas.

Just one villa unaccounted for or misclassified will throw the numbers off. Many different room types are weighted differently for 2020 than previously.

 

[PKen82]

There may be some problems with your rooms counts, too. You only have 18 grand villas and my records say 22. But I’m far from an expert on this resort.

I was able to personally reconcile BCV, SSR and VGF 2020 to within a couple hundred points of their 2019 counterparts. A friend did the same for Boulder Ridge. Count all of the lockoffs as Two Bedroom villas.

Just one villa unaccounted for or misclassified will throw the numbers off. Many different room types are weighted differently for 2020 than previously.

That would do it for sure! Thank you! I was basing room counts on what seemed like a good source, but let me try this and I’ll see what I get!

 

[drusba]

My guess is it may have something to do with room counts. Regardless of what room count you used to compare 2018 and 2019, you would necessarily get results close to each other as long as you used the same counts even if they were incorrect, because nothing changed on the point charts between those two years, e.g., if you assumed 250 savanna view rooms in one year and 250 the other, the results would be the same except for any minor change due to weekend nights in any given season. An issue that still exists at AKV is exactly how many standard view rooms versus savanna rooms there are as a result of the major change done in 2012 when DVC reclassified a lot of savanna view rooms as standard view at both Jambo and Kidani, which itself resulted in many point per night changes. It has been established that the number of standards at Jambo likely doubled with that change, but at Kidani it is still uncertain how many rooms switched

 

[KAT4DISNEY]

My guess is it may have something to do with room counts. Regardless of what room count you used to compare 2018 and 2019, you would necessarily get results close to each other as long as you used the same counts even if they were incorrect, because nothing changed on the point charts between those two years, e.g., if you assumed 250 savanna view rooms in one year and 250 the other, the results would be the same except for any minor change due to weekend nights in any given season. An issue that still exists at AKV is exactly how many standard view rooms versus savanna rooms there are as a result of the major change done in 2012 when DVC reclassified a lot of savanna view rooms as standard view at both Jambo and Kidani, which itself resulted in many point per night changes. It has been established that the number of standards at Jambo likely doubled with that change, but at Kidani it is still uncertain how many rooms switched

I thought that they did say how many they changed although perhaps not defined how many at each? For total resort comparisons though it would not matter. I do not recall that number off the top of my head but I thought they had shared it just like they did at BLT although that was not 100% specific either.