AKV..is this right?

[garnet1240]

I spoke with my guide today about purchasing 100 pts (2 contracts) at AKV with an Oct UY. He told me price was $91 for members. I also asked about terms for financing, he said all members are automaticlly approved and rate was 10.75% with required 10% down. He also said I would receive 06 pts which could be banked into my 07 pts.

Since I paid cash for first contact thru re-sale, can you tell me if this is right? I thought I had read price was $93 a pt, and financing had different rates, some with auto debit. Is he correct about the 06 pts?

Thanks for your help!!

 

[hellerjw]

My understanding is the deal he mentioned to you only applies for SSR, not AKV. I think the add-on price for AKV is $93 pt ($96 for new owners).

Since there weren't any AKV units available in '06 I don't think they could give you '06 pts. The financing rate of 10.75% he gave you is correct for financing through Disney (I think its 1% higher if you don't auto-debit).

I think you are right to question what you were told. There seems to be some co-mingling of resort information in there

 

[LisaS]

hellerjw is right -- there are no 2006 points at AKV. Your initial UY would be 2007 or later. The price for members to add on at AKV is $101. If you take the $8/pt incentive, that brings the price down to $93/pt. If they are still offering "developer points" then you can take those instead of the $8/pt discount. The member's price goes up to $104 on June 5th. It's not clear if the incentive also expires at that time.

 

[garnet1240]

Thank you both, I knew it didn't sound right! I questioned him 3 times about the 06 pts and price. I ended up not completing purchase because of his answers. Boy, that doesn't leave me feeling too good about this guide. He was assigned, so I have no prior experience with him.

Should be a fun call tomorrow.....Mr Guide...umm... price is wrong, pts are wrong, do you really know what you are doing???? I should let you handle this sale because..why?? Don't get me wrong, don't pretend to be perfect here, but sure think I would know the answers to these basic questions if it was my job.

Thanks again!

 

[dizzneebabe]

Thank you both, I knew it didn't sound right! I questioned him 3 times about the 06 pts and price. I ended up not completing purchase because of his answers. Boy, that doesn't leave me feeling too good about this guide. He was assigned, so I have no prior experience with him.

Should be a fun call tomorrow.....Mr Guide...umm... price is wrong, pts are wrong, do you really know what you are doing???? I should let you handle this sale because..why?? Don't get me wrong, don't pretend to be perfect here, but sure think I would know the answers to these basic questions if it was my job.

Thanks again!

PM me with your guide's name--we had a similar situation with ours and I'd be curious to see if it's the same person!!!

Thanks!

 

[Dean]

Thank you both, I knew it didn't sound right! I questioned him 3 times about the 06 pts and price. I ended up not completing purchase because of his answers. Boy, that doesn't leave me feeling too good about this guide. He was assigned, so I have no prior experience with him.

Should be a fun call tomorrow.....Mr Guide...umm... price is wrong, pts are wrong, do you really know what you are doing???? I should let you handle this sale because..why?? Don't get me wrong, don't pretend to be perfect here, but sure think I would know the answers to these basic questions if it was my job.

Thanks again!

Or take the deal with the price and 2006 years documented and see what happens. Worst case scenario is they say oops, it's $93 instead and you don't get 2006 pts after all.

 

[garnet1240]

Or take the deal with the price and 2006 years documented and see what happens. Worst case scenario is they say oops, it's $93 instead and you don't get 2006 pts after all.

Finallly had a chance to call back today and did just that! He did a quick back track ha! ha!

But anyways, so excited, new owners of AKV!!!!!!! Now the hard part, since we only go once a year and have our plans set for this year, have to wait until fall of '08 to see our new home

 

[jerry557]

Hmmmm....

Maybe its a different situation or I am not understanding, but I was told by my guide two weeks ago that add-ons at AKV will give you the added on points for your current use year you are in right now.

I just got off the phone today with someone else because my guide wasn't there today and he told me the same thing. If you buy 100 pts add-on at AKV, you can start using those points in this use year or bank bank them for next year.

And I read somewhere in this forum that someone added on points at AKV and got the points for 2006 which MS allowed them to bank.

So someone is very wrong here....

And yes, the price is $93 a point for current members at AKV until June 4th I believe.

 

[LisaS]

Hmmmm....

Maybe its a different situation or I am not understanding, but I was told by my guide two weeks ago that add-ons at AKV will give you the added on points for your current use year you are in right now.

I just got off the phone today with someone else because my guide wasn't there today and he told me the same thing. If you buy 100 pts add-on at AKV, you can start using those points in this use year or bank bank them for next year.

Do you have a Feb, Mar or Apr UY because then it is a true statement: your first points are for your current UY (2007). It is not the case for someone with a UY of June - Dec because they are still in their 2006 UY. Their first allotment of points is for their next Use Year, 2007. There are no 2006 UY points at AKV.

And I read somewhere in this forum that someone added on points at AKV and got the points for 2006 which MS allowed them to bank.

Perhaps they purchased SSR?

 

[jerry557]

Do you have a Feb, Mar or Apr UY because then it is a true statement: your first points are for your current UY (2007). It is not the case for someone with a UY of June - Dec because they are still in their 2006 UY. Their first allotment of points is for their next Use Year, 2007. There are no 2006 UY points at AKV.

Perhaps they purchased SSR?

The guy I spoke to at DVC today was one of the managers or supervisors there. And he pulled up my membership, he noted that I had a December use year and he specifically said that if I add on pts at AKV that they will become avail as soon as the contract is signed and processed. And I can then use or bank the points for 2007.

I'm going to be talking to my guide again tomorrow. So I will again ask and be very specific about this. But I have talked to probably over the past month at least 4 different people at DVC (even being there in person one time) and no one has said I would be unable to use AKV add-on points until 2007 use year.

 

[Dean]

The guy I spoke to at DVC today was one of the managers or supervisors there. And he pulled up my membership, he noted that I had a December use year and he specifically said that if I add on pts at AKV that they will become avail as soon as the contract is signed and processed. And I can then use or bank the points for 2007.

I'm going to be talking to my guide again tomorrow. So I will again ask and be very specific about this. But I have talked to probably over the past month at least 4 different people at DVC (even being there in person one time) and no one has said I would be unable to use AKV add-on points until 2007 use year.

There really are two issues. One is when can you use points and the other issue is what points do you get. Once all is settled I think you'll find that for a Dec use year you get 2007 points and not 2006 points. If you find out otherwise for AKV let me know as my guide, her supervisor and I have to have a little chat. As for when they can be used, they can be used once your "unit" is available for occupancy. Thus for Dec 2007 points many people would have been able to borrow them for stays 1 Sept or later of this year.

 

[LisaS]

The guy I spoke to at DVC today was one of the managers or supervisors there. And he pulled up my membership, he noted that I had a December use year and he specifically said that if I add on pts at AKV that they will become avail as soon as the contract is signed and processed. And I can then use or bank the points for 2007.

With a Dec UY, your first set of points will be your Dec 2007 UY points. They will appear in your account fairly quickly but they cannot be used for stays prior to your Unit's occupancy date. If your AKV Unit is in the July 2007 phase of the resort, your occupancy date will be some time in July '07. If your AKV Unit is in the Sept 2007 phase, your occupancy date will be Sept 1, 2007.

A stay that occurs prior to Dec 1st falls within your 2006 UY so you would have to borrow the points from your 2007 UY for that stay. Any of those 2007 UY points that you do not intend to use by Nov 30, 2008 could be banked into your 2008 UY provided you do so by your banking deadlines. Those points could then be used for stays from Dec 1, 2008 - Nov 30, 2009.

I'm going to be talking to my guide again tomorrow. So I will again ask and be very specific about this. But I have talked to probably over the past month at least 4 different people at DVC (even being there in person one time) and no one has said I would be unable to use AKV add-on points until 2007 use year.

As far as I'm aware, there is nothing preventing you from borrowing any/all of your 2007 UY points to book a stay during your 2006 UY. As mentioned above, that stay cannot begin prior to your Unit's occupancy date but otherwise I'm not aware of any other restrictions regarding the use of your 2007 UY points during your 2006 UY.

 

[Slakk]

There really are two issues. One is when can you use points and the other issue is what points do you get. Once all is settled I think you'll find that for a Dec use year you get 2007 points and not 2006 points. If you find out otherwise for AKV let me know as my guide, her supervisor and I have to have a little chat. As for when they can be used, they can be used once your "unit" is available for occupancy. Thus for Dec 2007 points many people would have been able to borrow them for stays 1 Sept or later of this year.

I am Dec UY as well and I start with 07 points as well.

 

[JerJan]

subscribing....

 

[jerry557]

Apparently there are a number of people at DVC giving the wrong information as far as the points are concerned. So be careful with that...

The guy I talked with this time was a lot more knowledgeable about everything. He said it is right that there are no 2006 pts for AKV but you can borrow those points from 2007. If you are just looking to add on points, still in a 2006 use year, and are not crazy about AKV, SSR is a far better deal right now because you would get 2006 use year points that you can bank into 2007, and the points are cheaper ($91).
He said not to worry about the 11-month window right now because AKV although will not be as big as OKW or SSR, it will be bigger than BWV, VWL, and BCV. So once they have the resort complete in 2009, there shouldnt be much of an issue getting something you want at the 7-month window unless you are going at a peak time and are really, really picky. It's just the next 2-3 years may be a bit tight there.

 

[LisaS]

Apparently there are a number of people at DVC giving the wrong information as far as the points are concerned. So be careful with that...

The guy I talked with this time was a lot more knowledgeable about everything. He said it is right that there are no 2006 pts for AKV but you can borrow those points from 2007.

I'm glad you finally found someone who explained things thoroughly.

If you are just looking to add on points, still in a 2006 use year, and are not crazy about AKV, SSR is a far better deal right now because you would get 2006 use year points that you can bank into 2007, and the points are cheaper ($91).

SSR also has a slightly shorter contract with an expiration date of Jan 31, 2054 vs Jan 31, 2057 for AKV.

He said not to worry about the 11-month window right now because AKV although will not be as big as OKW or SSR, it will be bigger than BWV, VWL, and BCV. So once they have the resort complete in 2009, there shouldnt be much of an issue getting something you want at the 7-month window unless you are going at a peak time and are really, really picky. It's just the next 2-3 years may be a bit tight there.

What did he mean by "really, really picky"?

 

[jerry557]

Well chances are I will never see 2057. But I doubt this will be the last add-on i buy. So I'm not too concerned about that right now.

I think he meant certain views or if it has to be something specific. I've so far havnt experienced at any resort being told that there is no avail at all at 7 months out. I've been told certain rooms or views are booked, but never that the whole place is booked. And I try to avoid the peak times as much as possible. I think his point was that if you are flexible, you will find something.

 

[dianeschlicht]

Well chances are I will never see 2057. But I doubt this will be the last add-on i buy. So I'm not too concerned about that right now.

I think he meant certain views or if it has to be something specific. I've so far havnt experienced at any resort being told that there is no avail at all at 7 months out. I've been told certain rooms or views are booked, but never that the whole place is booked. And I try to avoid the peak times as much as possible. I think his point was that if you are flexible, you will find something.

And he is absolutely correct. The exception at AKV will be those wanting the Club level.

 

[3DisneyKids]

And he is absolutely correct. The exception at AKV will be those wanting the Club level.

I agree. And remember that once complted, AKV will be quite large...close to OKW in size. Thus, while you won't get club level rooms at 7 months, you will likely get something.

 

[LisaS]

I think the other category that will be difficult to book will be the Value villas. There will not be many of them and they are a great deal! So members who want to economize on points will need to own at AKV to have a good chance of booking one of the Value villas.