AK yesterday ---- dog in a stroller!!!

[SueM in MN]

You should have immediatly had them call security. That behavior is unacceptable even if it was a service dog.

Denise in MI

Exactly.
That kind of behavior in any dog is unacceptable.
It's even more unacceptable in a service dog.

 

[reiella]

I don't know how a SD in a stroller could assist either. It can't get to the person, or smell the person...how can it give a signal or perform any service in a stroller? Unless it's only removed for episodes...and the owners felt the animal was safer kenneled.

Some children/adults have SD's with Type 1 Diabetes. The dogs are able to smell when the child's blood sugar is dropping and can retrieve and deliever a blood meter so the child can check. As well as signal for help and other tasks. Not all diabetics are able to sense when their sugars are dropping, which can lead to seizures and other very serious complications. The work these dogs do is very important, but the challenges the owners have to face to get them accomidated is dauting.

Not too sure where your stance is, so I'm 'arguing against you' needlessly, I'm sorry , the general point stands for the thread though.

Just because you can't figure out how it's a service animal/whatever, doesn't mean they're trying to cheat the system. It's possible they are, but I think it's better to assume they aren't, and move on. Much happier that way all around . Now, if the animal is being disruptive, that is a different issue, but then it doesn't matter even if it's a service animal or not .

 

[nanalisa]

You should have immediatly had them call security. That behavior is unacceptable even if it was a service dog.

Denise in MI

You're right, I wish I would have now. I was just stunned at the time. I reached up to take a purse off of a hook and must have scared him. Anyway, I've learned - I'll keep my distance.

 

[mrsksomeday]

I was at the MK last week and saw two women a man holding a Yorkie. I wondered about it. The next day I saw them again at the MK, we were in a gift shop. I was standing close to the man holding the dog when the dog whipped around, lunged and bit me. The man was nasty to me and told me she was a service dog. I have to say I seriously doubt this but I have no way of knowing. I felt awful and embarrassed. I'm a 53 yo educated woman being berated by a rude man holding an ill behaved dog (and I love Yorkies) at the MK. It ruined my day. I didn't tell anyone but now I wish I had, I guess I just felt guilty for being at the wrong place at the wrong time.

I highly doubt this was a service dog, a truly trained service dog never would have lunged or bitten you. Disney has every right to ask that person to take the dog out of the park for doing something like that. Next time it could be a child that dog bites.

 

[Sammie]

Everyone please report bad behavior by any dog, this is not acceptable and it will continue to get worse if unchallenged.

I would have called security and probably my lawyer.

 

[livndisney]

I was at the MK last week and saw two women a man holding a Yorkie. I wondered about it. The next day I saw them again at the MK, we were in a gift shop. I was standing close to the man holding the dog when the dog whipped around, lunged and bit me. The man was nasty to me and told me she was a service dog. I have to say I seriously doubt this but I have no way of knowing. I felt awful and embarrassed. I'm a 53 yo educated woman being berated by a rude man holding an ill behaved dog (and I love Yorkies) at the MK. It ruined my day. I didn't tell anyone but now I wish I had, I guess I just felt guilty for being at the wrong place at the wrong time.

You should still contact WDW. Tell them the date, time and store where all this happened. With all the cameras etc in WDW, they may have this couple on camera. So WDW may be able to stop them before someone else gets hurt. (Or atleast make WDW aware that this "service animal" is a possible threat to others.)

 

[disneychic2]

 

[disneychic2]

I was at the MK last week and saw two women a man holding a Yorkie. I wondered about it. The next day I saw them again at the MK, we were in a gift shop. I was standing close to the man holding the dog when the dog whipped around, lunged and bit me. The man was nasty to me and told me she was a service dog. I have to say I seriously doubt this but I have no way of knowing. I felt awful and embarrassed. I'm a 53 yo educated woman being berated by a rude man holding an ill behaved dog (and I love Yorkies) at the MK. It ruined my day. I didn't tell anyone but now I wish I had, I guess I just felt guilty for being at the wrong place at the wrong time.

My laughing smiley was just in response to the original post, I didn't read any more of the thread. I am so sorry for your experience with the Yorkie and the rude man. I agree with pp that you were not the wrong party here! I hope Disney begins to crack down on this sort of thing since, after reading the other posts, seems to be getting a bit out of hand. I love dogs, but unless they are a service dog, we don't need them at Disney IMHO.

 

[DJ Disney Kid]

Why do we live in a society where everything is a problem and has to have some sort of major resolution like having Disney search through grainy video footage so they can maybe get a photo of a man and a dog and then search the parks everyday for him based on this grainy footage so they can kick him out?

How about a lady reached for a bag, dog got scared and snapped at her. Unless you were bit so hard that it drew blood and needed medical attention who cares?! Can we not just chalk stuff up to accidents anymore? Not everything needs to be made into an overly dramatic production.

All people want to do nowadays is complain and sue for everything. This world would be a better place if we'd just let things not bother us so much.

 

[cm8]

My laughing smiley was just in response to the original post, I didn't read any more of the thread. I am so sorry for your experience with the Yorkie and the rude man. I agree with pp that you were not the wrong party here! I hope Disney begins to crack down on this sort of thing since, after reading the other posts, seems to be getting a bit out of hand. I love dogs, but unless they are a service dog, we don't need them at Disney IMHO.

Why do we live in a society where everything is a problem and has to have some sort of major resolution like having Disney search through grainy video footage so they can maybe get a photo of a man and a dog and then search the parks everyday for him based on this grainy footage so they can kick him out?

How about a lady reached for a bag, dog got scared and snapped at her. Unless you were bit so hard that it drew blood and needed medical attention who cares?! Can we not just chalk stuff up to accidents anymore? Not everything needs to be made into an overly dramatic production.

All people want to do nowadays is complain and sue for everything. This world would be a better place if we'd just let things not bother us so much.

Hello? This dog BIT her, should she ASSUME the dog has had all of it's shots and is not a dangerous,deranged, doggy gone wild. What IF her hand had been a CHILD, would that have made a difference, or was it the child's fault for scaring the dog?
SMH, If it were a TRAINED SD it would have known not to bite others
. SD or not no one has the right to get bitten by a deranged puppy at WDW. If this is what one should "just suck up and move on"
then WDW had better be prepared to fork over the big bucks due to the liability that will exist from allowing non service trained dogs onto their property.

To the poster who was bitten, I am sorry that you were berated by the owner, he nor his "SD" would have left that store till security was called and I had the Vet shot records on file at the local police department. This is most likely not the first time the dog has bitten someone and it will not be the last. I do think that you should still report it. That is un-acceptable behavior on the owners part

 

[Planogirl]

Am I reading that someone thinks that we should just laugh off dogs biting people in public places now? I hope that I'm not understanding the post.

 

[C.Ann]

Hello? This dog BIT her, should she ASSUME the dog has had all of it's shots and is not a dangerous,deranged, doggy gone wild. What IF her hand had been a CHILD, would that have made a difference, or was it the child's fault for scaring the dog?

SMH, If it were a TRAINED SD it would have known not to bite others
. SD or not no one has the right to get bitten by a deranged puppy at WDW. If this is what one should "just suck up and move on"
then WDW had better be prepared to fork over the big bucks due to the liability that will exist from allowing non service trained dogs onto their property.

To the poster who was bitten, I am sorry that you were berated by the owner, he nor his "SD" would have left that store till security was called and I had the Vet shot records on file at the local police department. This is most likely not the first time the dog has bitten someone and it will not be the last. I do think that you should still report it. That is un-acceptable behavior on the owners part

I agree..

Is this now going to be a new problem at Disney? Anyone and everyone simply stating that their dog is a service dog and there are no questions asked?

When I think of how crowded the parks get - and all of the children here, there, and everywhere - sometimes packed in like sardines - it's really frightening to consider the possibility that some people (notice I said "some") might try to sneak their dog in under the guise of being an SD simply because they don't want to pay for a kennel - or think of them as being similar to a credit card - "Don't leave home without it.."..

I would be very surprised to learn that a true SD dog would lunge at someone and bite them.. Not much I would report at WDW, but that is something I definitely would have reported..

 

[A Mickeyfan]

I was at the MK last week and saw two women a man holding a Yorkie. I wondered about it. The next day I saw them again at the MK, we were in a gift shop. I was standing close to the man holding the dog when the dog whipped around, lunged and bit me. The man was nasty to me and told me she was a service dog. I have to say I seriously doubt this but I have no way of knowing. I felt awful and embarrassed. I'm a 53 yo educated woman being berated by a rude man holding an ill behaved dog (and I love Yorkies) at the MK. It ruined my day. I didn't tell anyone but now I wish I had, I guess I just felt guilty for being at the wrong place at the wrong time.

If his dog did not have on that service dog vest that is provided when you have a service dog then you would have no way of knowing and that man is out of compliance with his service dog. Too bad you did not report that incident. It would have been nice to see that guest held accountable for what his dog did to you..

 

[livndisney]

If his dog did not have on that service dog vest that is provided when you have a service dog then you would have no way of knowing and that man is out of compliance with his service dog. Too bad you did not report that incident. It would have been nice to see that guest held accountable for what his dog did to you..

Service animals are not required to wear a vest. Anyone can buy a vest.

 

[SueM in MN]

I would be very surprised to learn that a true SD dog would lunge at someone and bite them.. Not much I would report at WDW, but that is something I definitely would have reported..

A service Dog must be under control of the handler at all times.
Even lunging at another guest is out of control.

A business has the right to tell someone with a service dog that they must remove their dog if the dog is not under control and the handler is not able to control it. The person may come back without the dog, but an out of control dog doesn’t need to be allowed to stay.
The question of whether or not an animal is a service dog may be difficult for a business to know for sure. Behavior is another matter though. Whether a dog is a service dog or not, if it is misbehaving and/or is not under control of the handler, they should be told they need to leave. It is NOT against the law for businesses to tell someone they need to take an uncontrolled dog out.
The trainer that works with my DD’s Service Dog really emphasized being a ‘good SD handler’ and said that if more businesses told the people with out of control dogs they were not welcome, there would be little ‘fake’ service dog problem.

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Originally Posted by A Mickeyfan
If his dog did not have on that service dog vest that is provided when you have a service dog then you would have no way of knowing and that man is out of compliance with his service dog. Too bad you did not report that incident. It would have been nice to see that guest held accountable for what his dog did to you..

Service animals are not required to wear a vest. Anyone can buy a vest.

livindisney is correct.
Vests are not required and it is possible for people to buy them over the internet (along with Service Dog ID cards and other products).

My DD’s Service Dog does have a vest that was provided by the trainer. We use it for a couple of reasons - one is that it says “Working Service Dog. Do not pet,” which does stop some people. The other reason is that when the dog is "in uniform” he knows that certain behavior is expected from him and he can’t just be a dog. For example, on walks without his vest, he might greet other dogs. When the vest is on, he knows he is expected to ignore any other dogs we see and that normal dog greeting behavior, like sniffing each other’s butts, is out of the question.

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

I am the biggest dog lover there is, however, no one should bring a dog that may bite into a situation where they are around alot of strange people and will snap at what they think is a danger, IE the stranger!

The fact that the owner actually berated the poor lady .......proved that he doesnt have the common sense God gave a sand flea!



I know this is going to bring on a blood bath, and I know there are many many great small dogs and small dogs owners. However this seems to be a problem with some small dog owners who think just because thier dog is small and its thier *BABY*, they can bring them anywhere they want and declare them a service dog! These cheaters are the ones making it harder for the folks that do need and have real, well trained,service and comfort/emotional dogs to help them.

*A Mickey fan* On behalf of all dog owners I am sorry you were bitten. I think I would have called secruity and gotten their names, addresses, etc and made sure no addtional persons would be bitten.

Now personally, would I try a lawsuit , especaily a small dog bite???...........mostly likely no, but I would enjoy knowing the owners would be worrying a good long time and hopefully not put anyone else or thier dog in a situation like that again!

Qiute frankly this is the owners fault, not the dogs!


Just my opinion!

AKK

 

[EMom]

Why do we live in a society where everything is a problem and has to have some sort of major resolution like having Disney search through grainy video footage so they can maybe get a photo of a man and a dog and then search the parks everyday for him based on this grainy footage so they can kick him out?

How about a lady reached for a bag, dog got scared and snapped at her. Unless you were bit so hard that it drew blood and needed medical attention who cares?! Can we not just chalk stuff up to accidents anymore? Not everything needs to be made into an overly dramatic production.

All people want to do nowadays is complain and sue for everything. This world would be a better place if we'd just let things not bother us so much.

Sorry, a dog biting me would bother me. You must be more mellow than the average bear. And the world would be a "better place" if people would use the sense God gave them and not bring their yappy little dogs with them everywhere they go, especially when said dogs have no business being there. It was a foreseeable "accident." Anyone with more than one brain cell could have guessed that combining that sort of dog with crowded conditions might well result in a bite. No brain surgeon or rocket scientist required. Just some common sense.

As I've said before....I miss the days when dogs were dogs, people were people and the people knew the difference. Actual service dogs are one thing.....but I don't believe this dog was one for a second. If you cannot be parted from Fifi for even a few hours, stay at home and spare the rest of us.

 

[Jedi]

I saw a dog in the basket on an ECV at AK Friday....lol should I post the photos?

 

[nanalisa]

Why do we live in a society where everything is a problem and has to have some sort of major resolution like having Disney search through grainy video footage so they can maybe get a photo of a man and a dog and then search the parks everyday for him based on this grainy footage so they can kick him out?

How about a lady reached for a bag, dog got scared and snapped at her. Unless you were bit so hard that it drew blood and needed medical attention who cares?! Can we not just chalk stuff up to accidents anymore? Not everything needs to be made into an overly dramatic production.

All people want to do nowadays is complain and sue for everything. This world would be a better place if we'd just let things not bother us so much.

I didn't complain and the thought never crossed my mind to sue. I just doubted that this was a service dog considering his behavior. I don't expect anyone to care so calm down before you have a stroke.

 

[nanalisa]

You're all correct, I should have told someone and I'm angry at myself for not doing so. Had he bitten my granddaughter, I would have made some noise. I think Disney needs to crack down on folks brining in non-service dogs and they never will unless they know what's going on. I didn't want to leave my Maltese at home but of course I did.