AG's new "Gwen the homeless girl" doll ...

I don't find this to be in bad taste. Gwen is part of the Chrissa story. I thought the Chrissa movie was great and had many great lessons for my kids. Gwen is temporarly homeless in the movie. Being homeless is a reality for some people. One of the great things about American Girls is that they teach...each doll has a story line and/or a place in history.

Jess
 
Completely tasteless, IMO, and I love the AG girls. The $95 price tag, with no profits to actual education or help to people afflicted is really sickening. The Pleasant company has definitely changed since I was a little girl.
 
Completely tasteless, IMO, and I love the AG girls. The $95 price tag, with no profits to actual education or help to people afflicted is really sickening. The Pleasant company has definitely changed since I was a little girl.


That's because Pleasant Rowland sold out to Mattel in 1998. It's been downhill ever since then. :sad2:
 
Completely tasteless, IMO, and I love the AG girls. The $95 price tag, with no profits to actual education or help to people afflicted is really sickening. The Pleasant company has definitely changed since I was a little girl.

That's because Pleasant Rowland sold out to Mattel in 1998. It's been downhill ever since then. :sad2:

Before she sold to Mattel did AG give a lot of their profits to organizations relevant to the dolls? Were the dolls/accessories cheaper then?

Not asking to be snarky, DD is only 6 so I'm pretty new to the AG thing.
 

Before she sold to Mattel did AG give a lot of their profits to organizations relevant to the dolls? Were the dolls/accessories cheaper then?

Not asking to be snarky, DD is only 6 so I'm pretty new to the AG thing.


I did want to qualify, I have absolutely no problems with Gwen. In fact, I think it's a great idea. I'm still bitter Pleasant sold out her beloved company to the makers of BARBIE (which is the exact opposite of everything AG stood for). :rolleyes:;)

The dolls/accessories weren't cheaper, but the quality has suffered.

I'll do some googling on the donating and check. :)
 
I don't think it's wrong at all. I'm not against those who feel that Mattel should give some of the proceeds of these dolls to homeless organizations/places either. That would be great. There was an article that stated that Mattel/American Girl does give money to charities involving homeless already. I have to find it. American Girl did give $500,000 to HomeAir which helps the homeless. I know to many people that's not near enough.

Disney makes money off of sad situtations of family life, even though the ending ususally ends up happy. So does Gwenn's story end up happy. My money goes to Disney and to American Girl.

We have Chrissa. We didn't get any friends dolls, because DD didn't want them. She wants Rebecca instead.
 
We do give our time to a local place that feeds the homeless (or anyone who is hungry). We also donate toys, blankets and personal hygiene products to shelter. I don't just preach, I do. Do I donate $100 dolls? No. Because I would rather give the gift of 5 toys to 5 children than 1 toy to 1 child; and because sometimes my $100 is better spent on clothing for the child or blankets so that they will be warm.

BTW,Precious books and toys don't always have to come as something that cost $100, a $10 teddy bear can be just as meaningful or a $30 Mickey Mouse that Mickey himself sent from WDW.

New AG dolls can be as low as $25-$35 at the Madison Children's Museum benefit sale. The dolls sold there each year are donated by AG and proceeds support various charities. These writers certainly won't share that fact though b/c it doesn't sound nearly as offensive. Heck, if they couldn't even fact check which historical periods AG books are about, they probably don't even realize that Mattel donates a huge volume of merchandise to raise money for charity.
AG dolls can also be purchased both new & used on ebay - and other places too - for very reasonable prices if you just watch for them. They don't all cost $100. Saturday DD20 found 4 African American AG dolls at a flea market that she purchased for just $10 each hoping to restore them and find new homes for them this Christmas. She's helped serve free lunches on Fridays with me and understands that just because someone is facing financial difficulties, the children still want clothes and things other kids have.

Sorry, you have missed my point. Sure its commendable that AG wants to teach todays youth about compassion and empathy for those facng hardship. How about practicing what they preach, by doing something real and tangible about it, like donating any proceeds to organizations that help the homeless. The fact is, right now people living in cars and shelters would be better off with a donation, than a bunch of 8-10 year olds learning to feel compassion and empathy for their situation...

However, I have lost respect for AG especially when their premise is to teach today's girls how to be strong and to do the right thing by others, even when its not the easy thing to do. They really could have done something that showed girls that with compassion and empathy and the right resources ($ in this case) you can actually help REAL people, who aren't living in an AG story with a happy ending.

What I said was that everyone saying "homelessness is just a part of life" was sad. And regardless of the story of the doll, that commentary is still sad.

I didn't miss your point. As a matter of fact, I fully agree with you. It's incredibly sad that the number of homeless is increasing in this country. That people are losing their jobs, homes, possessions, while taxes for those who still have jobs will likely soon be increased, making it even harder for them to make ends meet.

My point was that the information everybody keeps pointing out and thinking horrible is inaccurate. It's also old news so I just don't get the uproar all of a sudden. There was no research done - unless you count a walk thru a store looking at items on the shelves without looking closely enough to even know what you're seeing research? I don't like the Chrissa doll or her friends (even though we own them) BUT it has nothing to do with the homeless aspect. The story is about bullying and it is sad all by itself without getting political. Just like homelessness, bullying is a fact of life for countless young people. The girls are mean, In the book the girls are much harsher, they deliberately try to drown another girl. You don't see this in the movie but it's in the book. Gwen is temporarily homeless. The only reason it's mentioned is to explain why she's picked on and not in the bully's clique. It's not a major part of the story. Bullying is - and helping girls to deal with bullies - or not bully others - is the goal in this particular case. From what I understand they have put money into helping youngsters deal with bullying. How many issues should they reasonably be expected to tackle in one year's story?
 
From the AG website... http://www.americangirl.com/corp/corporate.php?section=about&id=5


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Giving back to girls and others

American Girl maintains a long-standing commitment to children’s charities nationwide, including support for education, literacy, environmental awareness, multicultural appreciation, and the fine arts. We’ve helped generate millions of dollars for programs designed to benefit children through innovative partnerships.
American Girl’s dedication to philanthropy manifests itself in unique ways:

The American Girl Fashion Show offers nonprofit organizations a fully conceived fundraising fashion show event that leverages the widespread appeal of the American Girl brand to raise funds for children’s charities. Blending education with entertainment, the American Girl Fashion Show offers a memorable experience for girls and their families and friends.

American Girl donates seconds and returned merchandise to the Madison Children’s Museum for the organization’s volunteer-driven annual benefit sale in July. Since American Girl initiated this partnership in 1988, the annual sale has raised more than $18 million and attracted more than 140,000 shoppers from around the country.


A percentage of the proceeds generated by the Madison Children’s Museum sale is returned to American Girl and redistributed through our Fund for Children (FFC). The FFC provides grants for philanthropic programs throughout Dane County in Wisconsin to enhance children’s education in the arts and environment. To date, the FFC has awarded more than $7 million to numerous nonprofits. Within Dane County, the Fund for Children grants have built The Aldo Leopold Nature Center and Nature Net, a collaborative consortium of natural sites in southern Wisconsin dedicated to environmental education of elementary school children; established Onstage: A Performing Arts Series for Students and the Kids in the Rotunda performances at the Overture Center for the Arts; and supported hundreds of local performance groups and artist-in-residence programs throughout the Dane County Cultural Affairs Commission.


Since 1992, American Girl has generously invested in United Way campaigns in those areas where our employees live and work.


As part of Mattel’s global partnership with Special Olympics, American Girl provides employee volunteers to assist at local Special Olympics athletic events held throughout the year. By providing support and encouragement to the individual athletes, American Girl’s volunteers help further Special Olympics’ mission to empower people with intellectual disabilities through sports training and competition.


American Girl donates its award-winning dolls and books to schools, libraries, and other nonprofit children’s organizations seeking product contributions for raffle and auction fundraisers. We’ve also donated several million dollars worth of children’s clothing through Kids In Distressed Situations (K.I.D.S.), an organization that partners with many of the leading toy and apparel manufacturers to assist children in need throughout the world.

I also know that Pleasant Rowland and her husband have been very generous locally (in the Madison, WI area) with their money. :)
 
Ok, this isn't the first time Mattel has pulled something like this.

Here are a bunch of other politically incorrect dolls that have appeared in the past few years:

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I mean, really, what is Mattel thinking???
 
Just wanted to post the link to the error filled, opinionated, biased story which started this debate again.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/homeless_doll_costs_hairstyling_4Ic0hC7Lacpfo8HQbczsQM

Anybody know "many girls as young as 4 who won't let their mothers sleep without the promise of an American Girl" like the author claims? Talk about exaggeration... :rolleyes1

Yeah, she sounds a little over-the-top and hysterical. Not to mention incorrect. Gwen isn't a new doll and as you pointed out in an earlier post, her op ed piece is filled with errors. :rolleyes:

Sounds like someone is bitter they didn't get an American Girl doll when they were a child. ;):laughing:
 
Maybe donating our airfare and volunteering at a homeless shelter might be an even better way to teach the kids about homelessness. I invite you to give that a shot. Since when did taking a vacation or buying a doll have any impact on homelessness, poverty, or any other social ill? I've helped serve meals at a food kitchen - as have my kids. We've even given... gasp... these dreaded & corrupt offensively expensive dolls to two less fortunate young ladies in our community and would again without reservations.

Just because you're poor - even living in a car - doesn't mean childhood can't hold some small pleasure or that you aren't allowed to enjoy a good book/treasured belonging. The mothers I've met don't teach their children to resent those who have things - they teach them to strive to do better and that life is about more than the possessions we - or others - have. That's the problem with many in our country's inner cities today - it's easier to blame those who have, than to take responsibility and work to be one of those people in the future.

Lots of offended folks who haven't bothered to read Gwen's story - and probably need a free wdw ticket as incentive to volunteer their time - are complaining, but very few with all the facts who've read the books have found anything done in "poor taste". More to the point IMO are whether the bloggers and media focusing on this - who want a presumably evil American capitalist company, along with an actual published author of more than just a blog, to write & give money to what they deem appropriate - spent any time or money lending a hand to those less fortunate? I'd love to hear those stories - especially if they're factual - unlike the original "story", that this craziness spun off of, now being taken as Gospel by so many of the uninformed. To use words that make me cringe every time I hear them coming from the oval office lately "we've got a lot of misinformation out there".

Not only is Gwen not a "new" doll, she's not even "new" news! This lopsided biased "news" was first announced last week 9/24.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/homeless_doll_costs_hairstyling_4Ic0hC7Lacpfo8HQbczsQM
They say both news and fish stink after three days - but the fish can't possibly be worse than the reek of incompetence keeping this going.

Can anyone name the doll from the "roaring twenties" mentioned for me?? Go check AG's site, I'll wait... uh-huh... just what I thought... there isn't one... never has been. :confused3 Geez, that's such a simple fact, yet apparently neither she, nor her editor, or the publication's proof readers for that matter, were informed enough to catch even this simple & obvious detail - much less take an hour to read Gwen's background directly from her story - or even cheat like middle school kids and watch the movie. The story OP's link takes us to is not the original, and has now been "updated" by the author several times as you can see if you read both.

As a newspaper columnist for a daily paper owned by one of the leading news publication companies in the country for the past 19 years myself, There's one thing drilled into our heads every single week - that it's all about the facts - check, check, and double check - give readers factual information in a timely manner without bias. This writer did none of those things. The news is nowhere near timely - geez, Chrissa's story was introduced in Dec 2008 - almost a year ago- and she wants us to be offended NOW? Where has she been all year? It sure wasn't at the library or anywhere for fact-checking... :rolleyes1



Actually that's not correct - Lindsey (2001) & Jess (2006) didn't sell out in the time period stated and sales were briefly extended beyond the initial retirement date, with excess inventory eventually donated to charity. I believe that Marisol (2005) was the first doll to sell out, and Kailey (2003) was also extended into January, possibly Feb but will wait for somebody else to post and verify that before saying for certain. The past two DOTYs, Nicki and Mia, both sold out before Christmas as expected though. It remians to be seen if Chrissa & friends will or not...



I could buy my DDs 3 or 4 Barbies (sorry, few are $10 any more) to drag around with cheap hair that would shortly be permanently unmanageable and clothes that are hard to get on/off - OR I could buy one quality doll with a body, clothes and accessories that actually resemble real children more than grown women and a story that will teach them something, while encouraging a love of reading, for that same money which has a lifetime satisfaction guarantee and can be sent for exchange or repairs at any time - even after being passed down to their children. No doubt at all in my mind which is the better value...



FTR - I'm completely underwhelmed by Chrissa, Gwen and Sonali even though we own them. I'd much rather AG have introduced more DOTY clothing, furniture, access to go with Chrissa - like Nicki or Mia's whole world collection, as opposed to two more dolls. In fact, my issue with the two "friend" dolls was that neither had very much of a story and we weren't given a lot of background - or epilogue either - to develop those characters enough to warrant buying them.

The bottom line though is that Chrissa's story wasn't about homelessness - it was about bullying - much in the same way that we can probably agree Gone with the Wind wasn't about slavery even though the story touched on it.

Is it sad, reprehensible even, that people are homeless in America today? Sure it is. Given the economy, it's a reality more of today's kids may have to face one day in some way, shape or form. I can't help but think that putting a face on the homeless, and a character kids have some experience with & can relate to, can only help today's youth feel more empathy and compassion for those facing that hardship...


How do you know the families donating their time to get the WDW ticket are not going to donate that to charity?
 
How do you think a mother whose little girls sleeps in a cardboard box or in a car or under a bridge would feel seeing this doll? If the makers want to bring awareness to homeless children then they should DO something not just make money off a ridiculously priced doll.

:guilty: I agree with this statement:thumbsup2
 
1- Most of you wouldn't be so worked up if you came across the doll in the store or online. Learn to think for your self and not just what someone puts in a stupid biased news articles

I would feel :sick: if I came across a doll like this in a store! Nothing like exploiting a homeless child for $. Just like the pp said, imagine what a real homeless child would think/feel or even the mother. I would imagine it would make a homeless mother feel 100 times more awful for being in that situation with her kids and not being able to help it.
 
The photos look like they are heavily photoshoped to me.:confused3

They are, and they are hilarious :rotfl:

Please tell me that your post is a joke and you really didn't think they made a pregnant, smoking barbie with a bottle of JD.
 
So its ok if your daughter wanted to be her for halloween to all the posters that think there is nothing wrong with this? Hey, maybe you can contact mattel to put out some ag costumes:mad: EXPLOITATION!!!! DISGUSTING!!!
 
The photos look like they are heavily photoshoped to me.:confused3

They are, and they are hilarious :rotfl:

Please tell me that your post is a joke and you really didn't think they made a pregnant, smoking barbie with a bottle of JD.

Seriously, y'all, they're a joke.

Google "white trash barbie" and you'll get hilarious descriptions to go along with the photos-we have one for each neighborhood here in Atlanta, and it seems like it applies all over the united states-there's a white trash barbie version for oregon, etc.
 
So its ok if your daughter wanted to be her for halloween to all the posters that think there is nothing wrong with this? Hey, maybe you can contact mattel to put out some ag costumes:mad: EXPLOITATION!!!! DISGUSTING!!!

She is only 3 and is wanting a Disney Princess outfit. If she was older and wanted to be like her doll I would be fine with that.

Really what is the problem. I saw the photo and she was a nice looking doll. She did not have dirt on her face, tangled hair and a begging cup.
 










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