Aggressive parents, a growing problem for teachers

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http://www.cnn.com/2005/EDUCATION/04/14/aggressive.parents.ap/index.html

DALLAS, Texas (AP) -- The shooting last week of a Texas high school football coach -- allegedly by a player's father -- was just the latest and most extreme example of the threats and assaults that teachers around the country say they are increasingly being subjected to by parents.

"I know teachers really feel they're in a pressure cooker," said Aimee Bolender, president of Alliance/AFT, a Dallas teachers union. "The respect for authority has definitely changed. Teachers are no longer respected in general."

In Philadelphia in September, a mother slapped a teacher three times in the face after he told her she needed to get a late slip for her daughter, state officials say. In Dallas, police say, a mother stormed into a classroom, grabbed a teacher's hair, and punched her and kicked her April 1 after the teacher scolded the woman's daughter for loitering outside a locker. The mother is herself a teacher in Dallas.

Educators attribute the assaults and arguments, in part, to a general decline in civility and the intense competition these days to get into the right colleges.

Lisa Jacobson, chief executive of the tutoring and test preparation business Inspirica, said teachers have told her they are overwhelmed by pushy parents.

"They feel like the parents come in as CEOs and order them around," Jacobson said. "I've seen many cases of parents going into schools and coercing teachers to change grades."

Also, parents are more stressed-out than they used to be -- working one or more jobs, or running single-parent households -- and may be more likely to lash out at their children's teachers, said Doug Fiore, a Virginia elementary school principal who co-wrote a book for teachers called "Dealing With Difficult Parents."

Last Thursday, Canton High School coach Gary Joe Kinne was shot and wounded in the school's field house. Jeffrey Doyle Robertson, 45, was charged with aggravated assault on a public servant. Robertson, whose son played on Kinne's team, was known for his hot temper and run-ins with the coaching staff. Other parents said he was angry over the football program and the way his son was treated by teammates.

While no national education organization keeps statistics on assaults and threats against teachers by parents, many educators say they have seen an unmistakable rise in tensions.

Lee Alvoid, a retired principal in suburban Dallas, said that toward the end of her 32-year career, parent-teacher conferences had become so tense that she sometimes asked security guards to stand outside her office.
 
This is a problem I've seen at my daughter's school when I was there. It's crazy.
 
When I was teaching middle school, there were some parents I would only meet with when there were other people nearby. We were lucky, we had phones in our rooms. We had parents that were barred from the building.
 
I teach preschoolers and have been threatened lots of times. I even had a parent threaten my dd. I have had mothers storm into my classroom and scream obscenities at me, its outrageous. One of the fathers cornered me and my assistant in the parking lot waving his hands in our faces and screaming. I have parents come in for conferences and I NEVER say anything negative. I always put a positive spin on things. If your child throws tables, tips shelves, hits and then spits on me (these things happen weekly) I will tell the parents that "Your child is very creative and active, let's work together to help your child harness that in a more appropriate way."
 

Personally, I think parents who behave in that manner should be arrested for assault.

I am a nurse, and I remember a co-worker who got groped by a patient. The patient was perfectly alert and oriented, smirked at her, and said "what are oyu going to do, have me arrested?" She did. And the hospital did not give her any support. As a matter-of-fact, they did their best to dissuade her from pressing charges. Thank goodness the police officers who came to hear the complaint were supportive.

I don't know where the notion came from the certain professions are required to take abuse from the people they serve without any legal recourse. It is a notion which has to stop.
 
My DH is a band teacher and he was assaulted by two parents on a trip once. The school tried to weasel out of protecting him by claiming because the trip occurred in Canada the could not take any action against the parents(actually the parents were friends of the superintendent as this was a small town). DH could have had them restricted from ever setting foot on school ground, and charged with a misdemeanor, but being the nice guy that he is said as long as they never came near him or attended any band functions they could attend the other events their kids participated in.


Why the assaulted him was because they chaperoned weekend trip and decided that their son and his friends did not have to obey the curfew all the others kids did. When these kids broke curfew and suffered the consequences as laid out in the permission forms they signed beforehand, the parents charged at my DH swearing at him and threatening to hurt him. Their own child threw himself in from of my DH to protect him from harm.

This is just one of example of the many psychotic parents he has had in his face over the years.
 
That is one of the reason I hate teaching. I use to work in a really bad area in Brooklyn (now I am home on child care leave)and I was also threated by parents .
I had one parent go to the superatentent (sp)on me because I gave the spelling words out of order. I would have the children copy them on Monday and then when it came time for the test on Friday I would say them in a different order to make sure the children really knew them. Well this parent said I was trying to trick his son.
Then I had another parent scream at me in June saying my room was to hot for her son. (we did not have A.C.)I wanted to say let me adjust my thermostate just for your son. Meanwhile at least he was just sitting there I was walking around trying to teach eight months pregnant in that heat.
Then another time I had a parent ask me in the schoolyard how his son was doing.What I really wanted to say was that he was a lazy piece of crap that slept half the day in class. But with a smile on my face I said I feel he is not working to his full potiential. Well the parent didn`t like that answer next thing I know I have a screaming parent in my face saying I have an attitude problem and he was going to get me fired. This is why I hate parents
 
chobie said:
My DH is a band teacher and he was assaulted by two parents on a trip once.......DH could have had them restricted from ever setting foot on school ground, and charged with a misdemeanor, but being the nice guy that he is said as long as they never came near him or attended any band functions they could attend the other events their kids participated in.

Chobie, I'm sorry I'm not trying to pick on your husband here but why does he need to be a "nice guy" in this scenario? Why does society let these lunatics get away with this crap? Many people wonder why our kids are so bratty and parents so unreasonable. It's because we let them be. Like the hospital not supporting their nurse in pressing charges against the patient. Huh?! Why the hell not?!

And I know these are on two different levels, but what about people who are just blantantly going against etiquette. There was another thread about a child's invitation requesting gifts for the sibling too. And what about the people making guests pay $70 a plate at a wedding. I'm sorry these things are just not OK. Everytime we tolertate stuff like all of this, it sends a message that's it's now acceptable. Are we just going to sit around and complain while it gets worse or make people take responsibility for their actions?
 
Beth76 said:
Chobie, I'm sorry I'm not trying to pick on your husband here but why does he need to be a "nice guy" in this scenario? Why does society let these lunatics get away with this crap? Many people wonder why our kids are so bratty and parents so unreasonable. It's because we let them be. Like the hospital not supporting their nurse in pressing charges against the patient. Huh?! Why the hell not?!

And I know these are on two different levels, but what about people who are just blantantly going against etiquette. There was another thread about a child's invitation requesting gifts for the sibling too. And what about the people making guests pay $70 a plate at a wedding. I'm sorry these things are just not OK. Everytime we tolertate stuff like all of this, it sends a message that's it's now acceptable. Are we just going to sit around and complain while it gets worse or make people take responsibility for their actions?


He didn't have to be a nice guy, he just is. He also liked the kid and felt bad that he had such insane parents and if he had taken action then the kid's parents would not have been able to see him graduate. The school should have taken action anyway, to not just protect my DH, but the other teachers as well.

I see you point, though, we expect teachers, nurses and other caregivers to just suffer the abuse and then seemed suprised when these professions have such high turn-over rates. We as a society should not allow people in care-giving professions to be treated this way. I t affects us all.
 
It's really sad that so many people are so hateful nowadays. I see it as a trend of self-entitlement and a lack of respect for others, and it manifests in interactions with people of various professions, drivers and so on. Basically, many people just don't care about others any more, only about themselves.
 
Planogirl said:
It's really sad that so many people are so hateful nowadays. I see it as a trend of self-entitlement and a lack of respect for others, and it manifests in interactions with people of various professions, drivers and so on. Basically, many people just don't care about others any more, only about themselves.


I agree-- ::yes::
 
I see this at my DD's school where the highest grade is kindergarten. What amazes me is that by being nice and sympathetic about the workload teachers have I've found they'll bend over backwards to help me and ultimately my DD. These pushy agressive parents only get what they want through force, intimidation or as a means to just shut them up. If they'd stop and realize that most teacher just want to do right by the kids none of that would be necessary. I agree that legal action s/b taken against any parent that stoops to this level.
 
You know, it's that way for many sectors in society. My dh works with the public and he's cursed at on a daily basis. The thing is, I wonder how many people who are threatened or cursed at by someone in their job turn around and do the same thing to someone else at their job? I think society as a whole needs to clean up their acts, anyone that works with the public has to deal with stuff and it's outrageous and should be unacceptable.
 
Believe it or not, this even happens on the college level. As a professor, I am not even allowed to admit to a parent that a particular student is in my class, much less their current grade, unless the student has given written permission. Worse yet, the students give permission but have lied about their grades and I have a tough time calming down parents who claim I must be incorrect about their child failing, etc. Parents become incredibly aggressive and want me to give little Susie or Johnny that A so they can get into medical school, business, school, etc......claim that they paid tuition, so their child should get the grade. Learned to just turn them over to my chairperson- that's why HE gets the big bucks!!!
 
Planogirl said:
It's really sad that so many people are so hateful nowadays. I see it as a trend of self-entitlement and a lack of respect for others, and it manifests in interactions with people of various professions, drivers and so on. Basically, many people just don't care about others any more, only about themselves.

DH and I were just saying this exact same thing.....its just amazing how little people seem to really care about each other anymore..... :(

You couldn't pay me enough money to be a teacher. I taught art classes on a very part time basis a few years back and it was more than I could take, just the few hours a week I had to deal with these some of these agressive parents was enough to drive me away from ever considering teaching as a career.
 
What ever happened to showing respect for others? I remember when I was a child if the teacher sent a note home or you got into trouble at school, you got it again at home. Parent's always took the side of the teacher. I feel for teachers today.
 
We just had two security guards attacked in the school by the mother of a student who felt she waited too long for her daughter to be dismissed. (It was an early dismissal.) She was arrested. In another Philly school, a janitor was attacked with a medallion by a father who was irate because the janitor would not open the door for him. His face was beaten so badly his eye was swollen shut. It is unbelievable what the parents are capable of-and then we are left to wonder why we are seeing the behavior problems in the children. :confused3 At times, it makes you wonder why you are teaching. :sad2:
 
I've only had two instances in 8 years where I felt the parents were out of line. In one instance a child head butted me in my wind pipe while I was sitting down. He knocked me over backwards in my chair, and I had trouble breathing for the rest of the day. I filed an accident report, the parent was called, and the father claimed I must have " provoked " his son ( I was sitting in a chair doing the lunch count :rolleyes: ) The other instance happened when I was working my p/t retail job after teaching all day. One of my students and his father came up to the jewelry counter where I was working. The father asked me if I would watch his son while he shopped, "because it's hard to shop with a five year old with you " :sad2: He actually got mad at me when I said no, I can't watch your son while I'm trying to do my sales associate job :rolleyes: Luckily these have been the only 2, most of my parents are great :)
 
A few years ago, some people called in a death threat to the referres of a basketball game if the refs didn't 'favor' their team (during the playoffs to go to the state tournament). The police had a pretty good idea who it was (parents of a player) but couldn't prove it. They banned all fans from the game and only the players, refs, scorekeeper and the coaches were allowed in the gym. This was from a tiny rural town of about 300 people.

I know that there are some parents that are not allowed on the high school grounds in our town. There are plenty of parents at our kids' Catholic elementary school that feel the rules don't apply to them and then they get livid if someone makes them follow the rules. I know they are silly rules like, drive the right way in the pick up zone after school so you don't KILL some little kid, but whatever. It is amazing to watch some parents at sporting events, I feel for those kids. The entitlement syndrome is just unbelievable.
 


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