After hours - $149 for EMH?

[smiths02]

Maybe I'm the only one who thinks it's not really all that bad. If I were going for a single day I'd love this.

$149 and I get to go in from 7PM-2AM, so 7 hours and I would get very short lines, free drinks and ice cream. Maybe I'm reading it wrong, but it looks like $149 is your ticket if you go in at 7, this isn't in addition to normal ticket price unless you go earlier. It would be awesome if they let people pay the difference between a single day ticket and this if they already have a multi-day ticket. We'll be there the 14th anyway, but because of the age of our children we couldn't take advantage of it. It seems to be a way for off-site guests to pay extra and get some EMH.

I still think they are overcharging unless *maybe* they have some really special shows and characters or something. I just can't seeing paying $150 to ride 7DMT a few extra times.

 

[EricInPA]

If they charge $150 and it sells out quickly, they under-charged

 

[smiths02]

If they charge $150 and it sells out quickly, they under-charged

That's true...to an extent.
I remember going to Disneyland on New Year's Eve 1999 or 2000 (can't remember lol). It was AWFUL...you could not move. I don't have an anxiety disorder, but I was having a panic attack.
Anyhow, we complained and got comped tickets.
So what I am saying is that if it is awful and people complain and they have to issue refunds or comp tickets or no one will pay it going forward, then it is not a success even if people lap it up right now.

 

[Eoghann]

It's not going to stop until people stop paying. There's some serious Stockholm Syndrome round here. Doesn't matter what they do or how much they charge people jump up to explain why it's okay. But it's blatant greed, they're not even really offering anything very special in return for all that money.

I repeat myself, a capitalist economy is only stable if consumers push back. If they passively accept whatever companies shove their way the system overbalances.

Maybe it will be lower crowds the first year, but they'll just keep increasing the number of tickets. They've been doing that on all their events for years. And they discover they can charge $150 for this then it's just a matter of time before the other parties jump up in price.

 

[eXo]

I don't think you understand the market Eoghann.

Customer's "pushing back" is done by not buying the tickets. So, as EricInPA said, if they sell out at $150, then they under charged. It's very simple.

The only stockholm syndrome I see around here are the people who think it is their right to be able to go every year (or even multiple times per year), and be able to afford every single add-on. I'm surprised people aren't complaining about their $1,000+ VIP tours they offer, which is essentially a guide taking you from ride to ride on a schedule that hits all the major attractions.

Many people see Disney as a once in a lifetime vacation. They save up, they binge, etc... If a person decides it is worth it to them to spend $150 to stay until 2am, eat ice cream all night, and ride some rides, then why do you give a crap? Because by paying for it your afraid your going to get priced out? If that's the case, then this is more about you then them. THAT is how capitalism works.

 

[ChipnDale79]

It's not going to stop until people stop paying. There's some serious Stockholm Syndrome round here. Doesn't matter what they do or how much they charge people jump up to explain why it's okay. But it's blatant greed, they're not even really offering anything very special in return for all that money.

I repeat myself, a capitalist economy is only stable if consumers push back. If they passively accept whatever companies shove their way the system overbalances.

Maybe it will be lower crowds the first year, but they'll just keep increasing the number of tickets. They've been doing that on all their events for years. And they discover they can charge $150 for this then it's just a matter of time before the other parties jump up in price.

I wish this were the time for Universal to pounce, and what I mean by that is to go the complete opposite direction as disney. Instead of raising prices, I wish they'd lower them and start a marketing campaign about being the Anti Disney, we won't nickle and dime you for your vacation.

Making it simple for guest to jump ship and go to Universal.

 

[ChipnDale79]

I don't think you understand the market Eoghann.

Customer's "pushing back" is done by not buying the tickets. So, as EricInPA said, if they sell out at $150, then they under charged. It's very simple.

The only stockholm syndrome I see around here are the people who think it is their right to be able to go every year (or even multiple times per year), and be able to afford every single add-on. I'm surprised people aren't complaining about their $1,000+ VIP tours they offer, which is essentially a guide taking you from ride to ride on a schedule that hits all the major attractions.

Many people see Disney as a once in a lifetime vacation. They save up, they binge, etc... If a person decides it is worth it to them to spend $150 to stay until 2am, eat ice cream all night, and ride some rides, then why do you give a crap? Because by paying for it your afraid your going to get priced out? If that's the case, then this is more about you then them. THAT is how capitalism works.

Sigh, I get utterly tired of people that complain about those that are upset about a decision a company makes, or brings up the if you can't afford to go argument. Its not like a Disney vacation is cheap to begin with, meaning people considered low income can't afford to go now anyways. We're treading on the verge of telling a lot of middle income Americans that a Disney Vacation isn't affordable anymore.

If this was a one time thing, you wouldn't hear a whisper about it on here. The fact is, there are addons being tacked onto multiple things. Ticket prices continue to climb higher and higher and higher. Its these things all combined are leading to people being upset.

Capitalistic Society doesn't mean customer's don't have the right to complain, whether that's vocal or with their wallets.

In my personal opinion, and I could be completely wrong here, but yes Disney is a once in a life time visit for a lot of people, but its also a yearly vacation for a lot of other people as well. I think Disney needs a mixture of the two, if they continue these money grabs,then the ones that come every year are going to view it as once in a life time trip as well. Would i spend more on my once in a life time trip? Sure i would. But i bet it's less money over time compared to coming back year after year.

In other words, I'm getting the impression that Disney doesnt value the repeat customer's anymore, and that's not generally a good thing. We'll see how this effects them long term.

 

[shakes]

What a great deal! All you need to do is eat about 37 ice cream bars to break even. I'll be sure to pack extra insulin. I make a decent buck but no way in hell would I shell out $450 for my family of three for three extra hours. I've gone in May for the last 4 years and the crowds aren't that bad. I've never had a problem getting everything in that we wanted by doing rope drop. I'm so curious to see what rides will actually be open. Disney's site lists a few with the line "..and many more". Well what many more? For $150 I would want to know exactly what I am getting for my money. SMH. For $450 I could stay one more night at Port Orleans (which is 82.78% magical) and eat 'Ohana.

 

[Maineiak]

I'm surprised people aren't complaining about their $1,000+ VIP tours they offer, which is essentially a guide taking you from ride to ride on a schedule that hits all the major attractions.

I couldn't believe how many of these we saw on our last trip. It boggled my mind. I was indifferent to their use, but I just hadn't seen so many before.

 

[EricInPA]

We're treading on the verge of telling a lot of middle income Americans that a Disney Vacation isn't affordable anymore.

It never was. Otherwise the concept of "once in a lifetime Disney Vacation" would not exist.

 

[eXo]

That make no sense... Universal is already packing people in. Lowering prices means thy would have to lower their offerings.

Sigh, I get utterly tired of people that complain about those that are upset about a decision a company makes, or brings up the if you can't afford to go argument. Its not like a Disney vacation is cheap to begin with, meaning people considered low income can't afford to go now anyways. We're treading on the verge of telling a lot of middle income Americans that a Disney Vacation isn't affordable anymore.

Bull. You can take two kids and two adults, stay at a value, and get tickets for 7 days for under $2k. That just leaves the cost of food, which can be as high or as low as you want it to be.

You are complaining about addons that have absolutely nothing to do with value vacations. Trying to equate them is complete malarky. All in an effort to make it seem like it's not affordable anymore.

You know it costs more to rent a vehicle and drive through the grand canyon, zion, bryce area for a week than it does to go to Disney? It's nearly 1.5k just to rent the RV, and that's before gas. I could make lists of vacations that cost more than Disney and arguably don't offer as much, but you'll just leave the thread and go complain on a thread about how they raised the price of some service that you don't have to use anyways, so really, what's the point?

 

[eXo]

What a great deal! All you need to do is eat about 37 ice cream bars to break even. I'll be sure to pack extra insulin. I make a decent buck but no way in hell would I shell out $450 for my family of three for three extra hours. I've gone in May for the last 4 years and the crowds aren't that bad. I've never had a problem getting everything in that we wanted by doing rope drop. I'm so curious to see what rides will actually be open. Disney's site lists a few with the line "..and many more". Well what many more? For $150 I would want to know exactly what I am getting for my money. SMH. For $450 I could stay one more night at Port Orleans (which is 82.78% magical) and eat 'Ohana.

That's like saying you have to get all the candy in the park to justify a halloween party ticket, or eat 5 trays of sugar cookies and 5 gallons of hot chocolate to justify a christmas party ticket.

 

[ChipnDale79]

That make no sense... Universal is already packing people in. Lowering prices means thy would have to lower their offerings.


Bull. You can take two kids and two adults, stay at a value, and get tickets for 7 days for under $2k. That just leaves the cost of food, which can be as high or as low as you want it to be.

You are complaining about addons that have absolutely nothing to do with value vacations. Trying to equate them is complete malarky.

Actually no you can't, i just priced it out, its almost $2400 for a family of 4 for 7 days without park hoppers and without food. I don't know about you, but we do eat on vacation and its a part of the fun for us. So lets say we include park hoppers and the quick service, (i'm only including quick service because my kids don't like to sit too long for dinner, otherswise i would have chosen the table service option) because those are the things my family does enjoy and aren't willing to give up when we go. Now you're looking at $3500.



I can make this vacation cheaper if I want to, but I'm not willing to strip out some of the things I've included here. To me going to McDonalds or packing my lunch for a week isn't fun nor is part of a vacation for me. Id rather skip out on the vacation all together and go somewhere else than strip out the dining plan or the park hoppers.

FWIW, I also recently priced out the same trip my wife and I took on our honeymoon 8 years ago, the same exact vacation now cost 31% more. I personally haven't seen a 31% increase in value. Again, my opinion, however I'm sure you disagree with everything i just said here.

 

[eXo]

I just ran it for my family last week. $2028 was my final cost. You can book with promo codes right now buckaroo. Families use them - especially ones who care about final cost. Excluding them either means your too impatient to wait for a code, or you don't care. And don't try to pull the dining plan into this. That's yet ANOTHER addon that is in no way part of the standard vacation.

You might as well book your sample vacation during december, add in very merry party tickets to every night, character meals, paddle boats, and backstage tours with your current mindset of "everything should be affordable".

You said it yourself - you could make it cheaper, but you don't want to. You know what that is? Entitled. At that point your no longer representing the "struggling class" that you are trying to bravely to defend. The dining plan? Seriously? Pathetic way to inflate the cost.

Either way, I sincerely doubt you understand the notion of a "once in a lifetime vacation." Instead you have an entitled attitude that suggests Disney should be affordable for no other reason that you deserve it.

 

[eXo]

Also of note, you did not choose just 1 quick service, it plainly says 2 right there.

FWIW, I also recently priced out the same trip my wife and I took on our honeymoon 8 years ago, the same exact vacation now cost 31% more. I personally haven't seen a 31% increase in value. Again, my opinion, however I'm sure you disagree with everything i just said here.

What you don't get it is doesn't matter if you see the value. Others obviously do. You know how I know? The place is FRIGGIN PACKED.
Stop going if you don't see the value. But don't expect everyone else to jump on your bandwagon.

 

[PrncessA]

IF this event runs concurrently with EMH, then it really isn't a huge deal. IF however this spells the end of evening EMH in the MK, unless you pony up an extra $600 (for my family of 4), that is unacceptable. Unfortunately, they will continue to do this until they start seeing a decrease in sales.

People will pay for this, not I or probably most of us who try and get to WDW as often as possible, but those who can afford it or are doing a once in a lifetime visit. They will pay, and Disney will care about them, not us. There is a breaking point at some point, and Disney hasn't found it yet for the wealthy.

I personally have reached many breaking points with Disney, but I eliminate an element from my trip, not the trip its self. They raise the price for the Dessert Party? I don't go again. I still watch Wishes eating my Mickey Ice Cream.

 

[ChipnDale79]

I just ran it for my family last week. $2028 was my final cost. You can book with promo codes right now buckaroo. Families use them - especially ones who care about final cost. Excluding them either means your too impatient to wait for a code, or you don't care. And don't try to pull the dining plan into this. That's yet ANOTHER addon that is in no way part of the standard vacation.

You might as well book your sample vacation during december, add in very merry party tickets to every night, character meals, paddle boats, and backstage tours with your current mindset of "everything should be affordable".

You said it yourself - you could make it cheaper, but you don't want to. You know what that is? Entitled. At that point your no longer representing the "struggling class" that you are trying to bravely to defend. The dining plan? Seriously? Pathetic way to inflate the cost.

Either way, I sincerely doubt you understand the notion of a "once in a lifetime vacation." Instead you have an entitled attitude that suggests Disney should be affordable for no other reason that you deserve it.

HA...ok, now I'm entitled.

Good way to turn the post condescending, I appreciate that. I won't be debating this further with you, not with someone that takes that tone.

We received two pin codes last week, we passed, I'm just not interested in giving Disney my money this year. We're headed to the beach.

 

[eXo]

Let me know how that beach dining plan goes

 

[ChipnDale79]

Let me know how that beach dining plan goes

We won't be eating McDonalds

 

[DisDad4Life]

Who knows, that's why I said it will make it on its own or fail.

Interesting nobody mentions all the extra CM hours this would potentially add.

I disagree. We've been to WDW the past few summers and MK had always remained open until 11 or midnight, sometimes until 1, and that was on non-EMH nights. The current calendar for June (our next trip) shows MK open until only 10 every night (except for one EMH night). If this remains as is it means they've cut CM hours, and if they're keeping the closing hours at 10 with the intent to extend them for this "magical" $150 experience then they're simply adding back hours that they likely would have had anyway. Isn't that what they're doing with the announced April and May dates?